Recently, Britain’s oldest pub closed for business. How old was it? And what actor has won more Best Actor Academy Awards than any other. Hear the answers on the Off Ramp with Bob & Marcia Smith.
Bob and Marcia Smith engaged in a wide-ranging conversation covering topics from gold rushes in America to personal childhood experiences, film trivia, and unique markets. Marcia and Bob shared their knowledge and insights, while adding valuable information and perspectives. They also discussed the origins and evolution of various nicknames and phrases, including ‘Big Apple’ and ‘April Fool’s Day.’ Marcia provided historical context and challenged Bob with words that had different meanings in the past.
Outline
History, actors, and geography.
- Marcia and Bob discuss the oldest pub in England closing due to COVID-19, and the actor who has won the most Oscars in history.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the history of gold rushes in America, with Marcia providing interesting facts and Bob often interrupting and teasing her.
- Marcia shares that the first gold rush occurred in North Carolina in 1799, where a 12-year-old boy named Conrad Reed discovered a 17-pound nugget while fishing in a creek on his family’s property.
Movies and fishing with Marcia and Bob.
- Marcia and Bob discuss a movie trivia question about the most extras used in a film, with Bob providing the answer (Gandhi).
- Bob shares a fun fact about the River Avon, which means “river river” in Celtic.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith play a trivia game, with Bob providing answers and Marcia guessing.
- In Times Square, the center of four-legged transportation in New York City, the New York Times newspaper moved into a lavish new skyscraper in 1904, popularizing the name “Times Square.”
Misfits markets, remote inhabited spots, and farthest McDonald’s.
- Marcia and Bob discuss Misfits Market, a platform that sells imperfect produce at reduced prices, and the Eiffel Tower’s unique expansion and contraction due to thermal expansion.
- The most remote inhabited spot on Earth is Tristan da Cunha, an archipelago with 257 British citizens as of 2022.
- Marcia and Bob discuss a remote location in the South Atlantic Ocean, with only 9 surnames of people living there.
- Bob asks if the residents inbred, and Marcia provides information on the history of the area and its isolation.
Sports, history, and language evolution.
- Pickleball, a fast-growing sport, may become an Olympic event.
- John Fitzgerald coined the term “Big Apple” in 1920 as a sports journalist, referring to New York City’s horse racing prizes as “big apples.”
- The term “pretty” originally meant cunning or crafty in the 1450s, but its meaning shifted over time to become associated with attractiveness and charm.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss state nicknames and their meanings, with Bob incorrectly identifying some and Marcia correcting him.
- Marcia Smith asks Bob why people who plead for help are called beggars, and Bob responds that he never thought about it but assumes it’s because they’re pleading for money or help.
Trivia, history, and culture.
- Marcia Smith: 63,000 bike docks in NYC, 47,000 dogs by one service.
- Bob Smith: April Fool’s Day originated from resistance to calendar change, pranks on non-believers.
- Marcia and Bob Smith discuss trivia questions and bravery in the face of fear.
Marcia Smith 0:00
One actor has won the most Oscars in history,
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And recently Britain’s oldest pub closed for business. How old was it? answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob
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and Marcia Smith.
Bob Smith 0:20
God can we just do it one more time now nevermind.
Marcia Smith 0:23
Okay, that’s how Marsha
Bob Smith 0:43
Welcome to the off ramp by chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy take a side road to Saturday and get some perspective on life. Well, Marsha, when a pub closes in England, and it’s the oldest pub in England, and its age is announced. This will give you some perspective on life.
Marcia Smith 1:00
Well, I know that we ate at the oldest restaurant once in the world, and that went back to Good
Bob Smith 1:07
heavens 800 something.
Marcia Smith 1:10
So they probably had pubs before they had restaurants. How many years old? Is
Bob Smith 1:14
this pub?
Marcia Smith 1:15
I’ll say I’ll say 2000 years old. No. No,
Bob Smith 1:19
not quite that far. Okay. But close Marsh, ye old fighting Cox and St. Albans England see this. Here’s a picture of it. Nice looking place.
Marcia Smith 1:29
You can’t do pictures on radio. Can
Bob Smith 1:31
you see it? They say they’ve been in business for 1229 years. They announced recently they were closing down due to financial problems that worsened during COVID-19
Marcia Smith 1:43
Cat imagine being around for 1200 years and COVID takes you down. Yeah, that’s sad. That is amazing.
Bob Smith 1:49
Well, where’s that located in St. Albans, England, and they announced it on Facebook.
Marcia Smith 1:54
Okay, we never could waste a beer there that you think somebody would
Bob Smith 1:58
say? Well, I’ll buy that. No, no kidding. You know, what a great thing to say. You
Marcia Smith 2:03
know, the Beatles could have bought that. That’s true. kept it going forever. All right. It’s almost asker time again. And so the question is What actor has won the most Oscars in history?
Bob Smith 2:14
It’s an actor. It’s not a producer or a director? Yes. Because I think Walt Disney actually won. Yes. That
Marcia Smith 2:20
was a question A while back, but this is actor.
Bob Smith 2:23
I thought it was Katharine Hepburn.
Marcia Smith 2:25
Oh my God.
Bob Smith 2:26
Is that who it is? Yes. Okay. Tell me about her. Yeah, well,
Marcia Smith 2:29
she want for she won her first one in 1933. For the movie Morning Glory, which I’ve never seen. Have you? Okay, and then Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? Lion in Winter and On Golden Pond with a all dressed actress? Yeah, they were all Best Actress. And Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? She did with Spencer Tracy. That’s right. She did nine films with the love of her life. Spencer Tracy? Interesting. Yes. Well, following up on that. Okay. She was number one with four trophies Oscars, but seven people have tied for number two place. Oh, really? Yes. With three wins each. Can you name any of them? I’m sure you can
Bob Smith 3:09
Meryl Streep. Gotta be one of them. Yes. Richard Burton, Is he one of them? No. Okay. I don’t know who
Marcia Smith 3:15
Daniel Day Lewis. Meryl Streep Jack Nicholson. Ingrid Bergman. Walter Brennan.
Bob Smith 3:20
Yellow here. Walter Brennan was a big Oscar winner
Marcia Smith 3:23
Betty Davis and Spencer Tracy. How many did they all win? They all won three. They tied for second place.
Bob Smith 3:29
It would be great to be part of that group, wouldn’t it if you were an actor? Yeah. Day Lewis. You join that group.
Marcia Smith 3:34
It only takes one of them jack or Merrill to have another one. And they’ll tie for first and
Bob Smith 3:39
there’ll be a tag with Katherine. Yeah. All right. All right, Marcia. Where was America’s first gold rush? Well, I’ll give you some clues. California, North Carolina, the Yukon or South Dakota. Which place hosted America’s first major gold brush South Dakota, South Dakota, where well, Bill Hickok was and all those people Deadwood South Dakota wrong.
Marcia Smith 4:04
I thought you were gonna praise me but no, no,
Bob Smith 4:07
you told me that you wanted me to praise you when you got things right. You’re very disappointing already today.
Marcia Smith 4:14
I have to praise me just say congratulations.
Bob Smith 4:16
But what do I say when you don’t do it? You stupid woman. Oh, no, no, no. Okay, it was North Carolina. North Carolina. Yeah, I didn’t know many people headed to California in 1849 in search of gold, but the first gold rush occurred 50 years earlier in North Carolina a 12 year old Conrad Reed discovered the first nugget while he was fishing a little metal Creek in 1799. Now it wasn’t a little nugget he discovered it was a 17 pounder.
Marcia Smith 4:45
Oh my lord boy, but I liked that on my ring here. Likely his
Bob Smith 4:50
biggest catch ever and that creek located on his family’s property in the region was soon overrun with gold diggers. This was 1799 Now if this sounds strange, remember the Marshall Tucker song fire on the mountain lightning in the air gold in them Hills waiting for you there that was about the North Carolina gold rush.
Marcia Smith 5:11
I’ll be jiggered fire on the moon too.
Bob Smith 5:14
But the 12 year old Conrad read, he’s the guy who came up with a 17 pound piece of gold.
Marcia Smith 5:20
I love it. I love it. I’m gonna go out and get a trout for a 17 pound. And he did
Bob Smith 5:25
it on his family’s property. When I was a kid, I remember he used to take a fishing pole. It’ll stick with a string and go out in the backyard when there was water there thinking we could fish
Marcia Smith 5:33
a sad picture. Anybody tell you mom, dad, they had to get me out of the house.
Bob Smith 5:41
You know, it’s gonna mean it’ll work. If I give you a poll today. Get this annoying kid out of the house. He keeps asking too many questions. I
Marcia Smith 5:49
said you’re fishing at a puddle Bob. up your children. Don’t do this. Okay. All right. I gotta stick with the movie thing. What movie used more extras than any movie in history?
Bob Smith 6:03
I bet it was the 10 commandments? No. Was it one of those biblical films?
Marcia Smith 6:08
Now that will give you a hint by saying it was a 1981 film
Bob Smith 6:12
a 19? Eight wasn’t the gladiator film it was Gandhi. Really more more extras in that film than any other? They used?
Marcia Smith 6:20
300,000 people for the 10 Minute funeral scene? Geez.
Bob Smith 6:25
Yeah. Imagine the paystub forums they had to fill
Marcia Smith 6:28
up. Well, that’s just it. 200 of them did it for free. 200,000 did it. I’m sorry. 200,000. I did it for free. And the rest were paid a small fee.
Bob Smith 6:38
So they paid 100,000 people a small fee. Yeah, well, even 10 cents is a lot of money. 100,000 people
Marcia Smith 6:45
300 Can you imagine? Wow, that’s amazing. That 10 minute scene. Do you remember that? I know I’ve seen it. Oh, it’s been a long
Bob Smith 6:52
time since I’ve seen Gandhi. Yeah. Every time I see Ben Kingsley in a film, I think a guy he’s tucked away in a film doing a little part. And there’s Ben Kingsley member and Gandhi. It was like huge. Yeah, huge film. All right, Marshall. What rivers name means river river when it’s translated. Oh,
Marcia Smith 7:07
is it like Congo? No. Is it? Amazon? No. Mississippi River?
Bob Smith 7:14
No. Any other guesses here?
Marcia Smith 7:17
No, that was my three big ones. Oh, disappointing.
Bob Smith 7:22
They’ll give you choices here. The river Thames the River Seine, the river Tiber, or the River Avon. These are all in Europe.
Marcia Smith 7:28
Okay. I will say Tibor. No,
Bob Smith 7:31
but that’s okay. Okay, what is the okay to fail? Because you repeated pick yourself up and you keep going.
Marcia Smith 7:38
Okay, you’re so wise there’ll be one it’s the River Avon,
Bob Smith 7:42
which is Celtic for river. The river Avon literally means river River. Now that of course is located in the United Kingdom. It runs through the spa city of bath that glides through the Cotswolds and it’s associated with Shakespeare the died and Stratford upon Avon. So, it was Stratford upon River. Yeah. All right. Anyway, other rivers in the United Kingdom also use Avon as a term for rivers such as the Avon of Bristol, and the Avon of Wiltshire. So in some places, the meaning is reversed.
Marcia Smith 8:14
Pretty good, young man. Last question on movies. Which film has the most well known stars
Bob Smith 8:21
in it? Which film has the most well known stars? The biggest roster
Marcia Smith 8:24
of film stars in
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it? It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad. Yeah, yes. Yes. Good
Marcia Smith 8:29
for you. Yes, it had you want to guess how many comedy legends in it? How many 44 Oh, my goodness. Yes. And it was 1963 slapstick movie by Stanley Kramer?
Bob Smith 8:41
Yeah, that’s a kind of a fun one to watch, actually, because you don’t watch it for the plot. You watch it to see who am I going to see now? Yeah. Oh, here’s Buster Keaton. Oh, here’s Who’s that woman who used to sing real loud and you just imitate her? Ethel Merman. She’s? YES. Jimmy Duranty was on it. And remember, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 8:58
It’s another big W. That was the clue. He died at the very beginning. Oh, yeah. The treasurer, the Treasurer. Under the big W.
Bob Smith 9:07
They had to find what the big W was. I think it was the Hollywood sign as I recall, was it Yeah. Okay, Marcia, what city’s most famous intersection was once the center of four legged transportation. Well,
Marcia Smith 9:18
would that be Hollywood in vine? No. Would it be in New York? Yeah, it’d be Broadway and what is it third? Well,
Bob Smith 9:25
you got the answer. What city’s most famous intercell, New York City and what’s the most famous intersection?
Marcia Smith 9:31
That’s what I’m trying to get here.
Bob Smith 9:32
Marcia, you did a great job. Congratulations. All right. Go
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back to the door.
Bob Smith 9:37
You got New York. Now what is the famous intersection? This is where they dropped the ball Years Day, second and Broadway New Year’s Day. It’s a square what is it called? Time Square here? We could very good. Yes, Times Square. That’s the intersection. It’s called Times Square. Oh, I see. There’s a little trick and it was one surrounded by farms. And by the second half of the 19th century. It was the heart of New York City’s carriage manufacturing industry, home to William Vanderbilt’s American Horse exchange. So that’s where horses were bought and sold. And the coaches that they pulled were built there. So it was the center of four legged transportation. But all that changed in 1904 when the New York Times newspaper moved into their lavish new skyscraper, they’re called wine Times Square, okay? And even though the paper moved eight years later, it’s been called Time Square for over 100 years. Okay,
Marcia Smith 10:29
Bob, you’ll like this story. What is misfits, markets? misfits
Bob Smith 10:34
markets? Is this the person misfits mark? Oh,
Marcia Smith 10:39
no misfits. So
Bob Smith 10:40
misfits market? I
Marcia Smith 10:40
don’t know. It’s a brainchild of a guy named RB. Ramesh Wait a minute
Bob Smith 10:45
misfits market. It’s where all those unmatched socks are sold. Everything you’ve lost and could never hire the misfits. Yeah,
Marcia Smith 10:54
it’s not too unlike that. It’s a man who rethought the online grocery store. It all began when he visited an apple orchard. And he saw the incredible waste of imperfect apples and never thought of that. Oh, yeah. Imperfect apples if you’re not perfect like getting the woman you married, it gets cast aside. That’s when he got his billion dollar idea bomb Wow, of selling rejected produce online at reduced prices. He included everything from flawed packaging, like upside down labels on olive oil bottles to popcorn that never made it to movie theaters. It was surplus that would buy Okay, and by offering affordable, sustainable groceries online, he’s attracted a huge audience at misfits market.com
Bob Smith 11:44
and think of all of the things that went into that where he had to make sure everything stayed fresh and so forth. Interesting. That’s a word. Okay. All right. What city’s famous monument grows six inches taller every summer. The famous monument world famous grows six inches taller every summer.
Marcia Smith 12:03
Does it go back down? Yes.
Unknown Speaker 12:05
Yes, it does.
Marcia Smith 12:06
Oh, it does. Okay, so is that like the Washington Monument? No, because I thought maybe the earth beneath it got no, it’s the monument
Bob Smith 12:14
itself expands and contracts. You
Marcia Smith 12:16
have to tell me it’s the eiffel tower? Oh, I was should have said that. Yeah, obviously,
Bob Smith 12:20
when it was completed in 1889. It was the tallest building in the world. 1063 feet, but it actually grows six inches taller each summer because it’s made of iron. And it’s sensitive to temperature variation. It’s a natural phenomenon known as thermal expansion. And because of that, it is also slightly shifts away from the Sun rotating throughout the course of the day, depending on which side is facing the sun. Oh, really? Yeah, it kind of rears back away from the Sun slightly to as well as growing and expanding and contracting. The Living Eiffel Tower, obviously,
Marcia Smith 12:54
I didn’t know. Okay, what’s the most remote inhabited spot on Earth? The most remote in I thought it was Hawaii, not even close. It’s a place called Triston diku na cun? Ha. As of 2022, there were 257 people, mostly British citizens living on this archipelago. It sees a ship carrying male cargo and passengers about once a month. It sits in the South Atlantic Ocean between South America and Africa. It’s West and slightly south of the Cape of Good Hope. Wow. It’s not very big, about 30 square miles, about six miles in diameter. And there’s only nine surnames of people live on this.
Bob Smith 13:39
Do they inbreed? That’s my question. But they’re probably
Marcia Smith 13:42
all descended from travelers from the 17th and 18th century when this place was on the preferred maritime route to the Cape of Good Hope in Indian Ocean. And the travelers would go past this, and some of them would jump off. And here you have the 257 people who now
Bob Smith 13:59
isn’t that interesting? Now I know Hawaii is the largest metropolitan area. Isolated? Yeah. From the rest of the world. Yeah,
Marcia Smith 14:08
but how would you like to live on this? Well, you only get up once a month. Oh, here comes some buttered popcorn. I
Bob Smith 14:15
think the only important thing to ask is do they have Wi Fi? If not, do they have some kind of satellite dish so they can get the web? Well? That’s a good question. Well, you have that question. That’s interesting. Here’s mine. What’s the MC farthest spot from a McDonald’s restaurant? Nick fight in the 48 contiguous United States. That’s 48. Okay, though, you have to drive farther to get that I get the idea and any other McDonald, I
Marcia Smith 14:37
will say at some place in the Pacific Northwest now. No, it’s not. Okay. How about Montana? No, no. How about Wyoming?
Bob Smith 14:46
It’s in Nevada. Now. Okay. It’s in Nevada. It’s the MC farthest spot. That’s what they call it. The latitude is 37.92901 and the longitude is 116.32345. And it’s 135 miles from the nearest McDonald’s. That’s how far you have to go. The closest town is Tonopah or Tonopah, t o n o p h Nevada. The zip code there is 89049. That’s the big farthest spot for a McDonald’s restaurant. Those
Marcia Smith 15:17
people must suffer a great deal.
Bob Smith 15:19
I think it’s time for a break. Do
Marcia Smith 15:20
they have therapy?
Bob Smith 15:21
I think it’s time for a break. Okay, we’ll be back in just a moment. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob Smith. We’re back you’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. Marsha. We had a question the other day about I think it was also the Eiffel Tower. Its color the paint that was first Yeah, it was reddish brown reddish. Okay, did you know the Golden Gate Bridge is covered in that kind of paint. Did you know that was supposed to be temporary architect Irving Morrow. Notice that some of the steel that arrived for construction of the bridge was coded in a dark red primer, which inspired him to write a 29 page report saying why don’t we use a similar color in the final design? He just liked the way that look. He suggested using orange vermilion or burnt sienna, as those tones would emphasize the grand scale of the bridge and provide a contrast to the gray and blue of the water does. Yeah. So they paint it in and what they call international origin.
Marcia Smith 16:20
Is that for Sanford’s? But it was it was an
Bob Smith 16:22
accident. It was just oh, let’s take that. Let’s try this. Oh,
Marcia Smith 16:25
what’s the fastest growing sport in the United States?
Bob Smith 16:30
The fastest growing sport? Yeah. So it’s got to be curling? No,
Marcia Smith 16:34
no, I don’t know. We just did that last night.
Bob Smith 16:37
I don’t know what it is. Pickleball oh, gosh, really,
Marcia Smith 16:41
it started out with the 55 Plus set because you don’t have to put quite all your joints into action with pickleball like tennis. And I want to definitely do this. I haven’t played but you don’t seem too keen on it,
Bob Smith 16:53
but just doesn’t sound exciting to me. That’s playing pickleball Yeah, I’m
Marcia Smith 16:58
gonna if it had a different name. It
Bob Smith 17:00
sounds like a board game to me.
Marcia Smith 17:01
It began growing with that quirky name around the 2000s. But today Pickleball is attracting players of every age as it explodes in popularity across the US and now around the globe. It’s a combination of various sports including badminton, tennis, ping pong, all of that. Okay,
Bob Smith 17:20
speaking of sports, this is a fellow who is a versatile oarsmen, the most versatile oarsmen in history. He was from the United States, he won three Olympic championships. You’ve never heard of this man because his daughter’s accomplishments overshadowed him. Who was he?
Marcia Smith 17:39
It wasn’t King Richard and they have the tennis stars know.
Bob Smith 17:42
This guy was an oarsmen one three Olympic champion I don’t know. It’s John B. Kelly of Philadelphia. Okay, his son John Jr. was also a celebrated figure and sculling. But John Kelly’s daughter, Grace became an award winning actress and later a European princess. Okay, Iris disgrace of Monaco. Yeah, so even though he won three Olympic championships, nobody knows his name, but everybody knows Grace Kelly. Yes, movie star as
Marcia Smith 18:09
they do. All right. And here’s an addendum. There’s some talk some whispers about pickleball getting into the Olympic. Here we go again, with the pickleball. Just Just so you know, it may be an Olympic sport someday. Okay. You know how New York got the nickname Big Apple?
Bob Smith 18:27
Yes, it had to do with something about horse racing didn’t it wasn’t horses or a club or something like that? It was a famous columnist came up with that term. Well,
Marcia Smith 18:36
it’s sort of a combination of those. So it all started in 1920. sports journalist John Fitzgerald wrote a column about how many horse races there were in and around New York, okay, like I thought, and he referred to the prizes they won as the Big Apple, you know, horses like apples, and it symbolized the biggest and the best one can achieve. 10 years later, in the 30s, the jazz era came and the song started to refer to New York City as the Big Apple. It didn’t become a nickname for good until the 60s and 70s. Advertising took over and to attract tourists. They made a big red apple the city’s logo and firmly established the nickname for evermore. As I
Bob Smith 19:20
said, I was writing that he actually wrote a column called the Big Apple two I have a some icon they used in newspapers, who was the guy who wrote the who wrote the newspaper articles about horse racing. No, okay, you had a column called the Big out
Marcia Smith 19:34
John J. Fitzgerald. Ah, yeah, I’ve got a I’ve got a picture that I’ll share with you. So those three things, you know, music, sports, and then finally good old advertising. All right.
Bob Smith 19:44
Okay, Marsha. For the past several shows. I’ve had words that used to mean something totally different than they mean today. So I’m gonna give you three more. The word pretty. What did that mean? Back in the 1450s. The word pretty it didn’t mean a track. tive Oh,
Marcia Smith 20:00
I was gonna say Marcia, but if it didn’t mean attractive,
Bob Smith 20:03
you weren’t there
Marcia Smith 20:06
to help me. It meant nice somebody nice.
Bob Smith 20:09
No it didn’t it meant to be cunning or crafty. Oh, really? Yeah, that was the original meaning of the word pretty. Somehow it turned into charming and beautiful. I don’t know. Sophisticated. What do we think of when we think of sophisticated today? Again, me don’t know something refined. Marcia. Okay, you Yeah. But in the 1600s something sophisticated was mixed with foreign substance adulterated, not pure or genuine now, masticated really meant. One more sustainable. What did that mean originally?
Marcia Smith 20:42
Okay, what did it mean originally capable of being
Bob Smith 20:45
endured? Or born or bearable? Sustainable? Yeah, it’s not that the meaning is pretty close. But that was in the 1610s. That’s the meaning for that.
Marcia Smith 20:53
Okay. All right. All right. Here’s some state nicknames. I’ll give you the nickname. You tell me the state. Okay.
Bob Smith 20:58
Who’s your state of Indiana? Hawkeye. Hawkeye State is Iowa.
Marcia Smith 21:02
Old line state. Old line state.
Bob Smith 21:06
That’s gonna be something back East.
Marcia Smith 21:08
Yes.
Bob Smith 21:10
I’m thinking Kentucky but I don’t think it is Kentucky. So I’ll say Tennessee,
Marcia Smith 21:13
Maryland, Maryland Centennial State, the Centennial State.
Bob Smith 21:18
So that was maybe the centennial of the United States that came into being is that the thing?
Marcia Smith 21:23
I don’t know the origin of it. That’s good. Get back to Tennessee. That’s
Bob Smith 21:27
the Volunteer State. I know that. Oh,
Marcia Smith 21:29
that was my next one. Oh, okay. I don’t know what’s the Colorado is the centennial Centennial State How about the Sooner State the Sooners that’s Oklahoma? Good. And the last one. And you think this through and you’ll get it? The equality state?
Bob Smith 21:44
The equality state that was Montana now. California? No. Equality stay for 10 I’m on Jeopardy. I didn’t know.
Marcia Smith 21:54
It’s Wyoming.
Bob Smith 21:56
And there you go. And why is that because they were the first state to allow women to vote. That’s right. That I thought it was Montana but it was Wyoming? Yeah. Okay, good. Okay, and I have another word. Where did this come from? What is mad as a hatter? Mean? Where did that come from? The phrase mad as a hatter. Have you ever heard that phrase? Yes,
Marcia Smith 22:14
of course. And then I was got it. I thought it came from
Bob Smith 22:17
Alice in Wonderland. Yeah. Yeah, cuz there was a hatter and he was mad. But do you know what that? Okay. That was because it was a serious medical condition that once plagued the handmaking industry in the 18th centuries and the 19th centuries for felt for hats, which is more durable and lightweight than wolfelt was made by treating animal pelts with mercury nitrate. Oh,
Marcia Smith 22:40
geez. And it made him insane. Yeah, it actually
Bob Smith 22:43
overtime people who worked with that develop tremors, speech problems, hallucinations and mental and emotional instability. So the problem the popularity of the phrase mad as a hatter shows how widespread it was. But Mercury continued to be used in hat making into the 20th century. It wasn’t officially banned until 1940. Wow, Matt has 100 that’s where that comes from.
Marcia Smith 23:08
All right, I have a quick word question to all right. Why are strangers who plead for help called beggars?
Bob Smith 23:17
I never thought of people pleading I guess beggars are pleading for help, aren’t they? I didn’t think about that. I thought they’re begging
Marcia Smith 23:23
for money or help was what
Speaker 1 23:25
they called beggars. Yeah, I don’t know. The verb
Marcia Smith 23:28
bag came from a 12th century monk named Lambert de Begu, B E, G, UE, and whose follow, whose followers wandered the countryside and depended on handouts to survive. They were called Big goos not kidding. I didn’t know that. So it came from a monk who’s had that name. Okay.
Bob Smith 23:50
Okay, Marcia, here’s a current question. We know automobile ride services have ballooned. But how big are those bike sharing services? Let’s just take a look at New York City. Okay. How many docks are there for bikes? Parking docks for bikes
Marcia Smith 24:05
in New York City? Yeah. Oh, gosh. 63,000. You’re
Bob Smith 24:11
a little over overshot it by a bit. But it’s all hot city bike, a service of lift, lift in Manhattan. And Brooklyn grew from 6000 bikes and 12,000 parking docks, to 24,000 bikes and 47,000 dogs. It’s the largest bike sharing system in the country today.
Marcia Smith 24:29
So there’s 24,000 So I was way off 24,000 bikes,
Bob Smith 24:33
47,000 dogs by this one service bike. So there are other services in New York City. I
Marcia Smith 24:39
might be right accidentally. That’s very amazing, isn’t it? Okay, so last one before my quote. Okay. Do you know Bob the origin of April Fool’s Day,
Bob Smith 24:51
the origin of April Fool’s Day. Yes. How it began? I don’t know. All right,
Marcia Smith 24:55
according to The Big Book of answers, Oh, good.
Bob Smith 25:00
No worries that book. How big is that boats
Marcia Smith 25:03
pretty big. Up until 1564, the French celebrated New Year’s between March 25 and April 1. But when the Gregorian calendar came about it was moved to January 1 with the rest of us. Those who resisted the change became victims of pranks, like getting invited to New Year’s parties on April 1, because
Bob Smith 25:26
that was the original date. Yeah, the new some people
Marcia Smith 25:29
refuse to ever believe. So they started saying, hey, come over to our, you know, to a big party on April 1. Soon, the April 1 celebration of a non event became an annual festival of hoaxes, which I thought was pretty so those people
Bob Smith 25:43
became April Fool’s. Yeah. That’s interesting. Yeah. So it had to do with the calendar changing.
Marcia Smith 25:50
Yeah. And a lot of people just would not give up their their New Year’s
Unknown Speaker 25:54
Day. April Fool’s
Marcia Smith 25:57
Day. All right. Come on today are the New Year’s party at our house, and there’d be nobody there. Well, that’s
Bob Smith 26:02
the people who’ve never changed have no they don’t people are always the same. I bet if you look hard enough, and those Egyptian tombs, you’ll find jokes written on the walls.
Marcia Smith 26:12
What is seven? What if there’s a nap Nacho?
Bob Smith 26:18
Mo tap said knock, knock.
Marcia Smith 26:22
And always knuckles heard from knocking on the stone
Bob Smith 26:24
Guernsey’s the second set who’s there? All right. And
Marcia Smith 26:28
here’s a well known quote that goes out to all the brave citizens of Ukraine. Bravery is not the absence of fear. But the action taken in the face of fear.
Bob Smith 26:39
Well, that’s true. That’s true. If you’re brave, that doesn’t mean that you lack fear. Yeah,
Marcia Smith 26:44
that’s for sure. Yeah. But what do you do in the face of fear?
Bob Smith 26:48
Well, that’s the answer to our question for today. We hope you’ve enjoyed this and we remind anyone listening that we’d love to solicit questions from the audience, if you’d like to give us a question that I can use to challenge Marsha, or she can use to challenge me. All right, you can just go to our website, the off ramp dot show the st off ramp dot show and scroll down to
Marcia Smith 27:11
contact us. Yes. Okay. And us. We’ll be there. us. We’ll be there. All right, Bob. Wrap it
Bob Smith 27:16
up. That’s all for today from us. I’m Bob Smith.
Marcia Smith 27:19
I’m Marcia Smith.
Bob Smith 27:20
You’ve been listening to the off ramp. Join us again next time when we returned with more trivia questions on the
Marcia Smith 27:27
off ramp.
Bob Smith 27:27
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