132 Spellbinding Trivia

Bob Smith 0:00
One famous adventurers travels might have never been recorded if he hadn’t been captured and imprisoned. Hmm,

Marcia Smith 0:07
I have to think about that one. And how long were Eva Braun and Adolf Hitler married

Bob Smith 0:13
answers to those and other very different questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith.

Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy take a side road to sanity and get some perspective on life with some fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Okay, Marcia, what famous adventurous travels might have been secret never heard of, if he hadn’t been captured and imprisoned. That’s

Marcia Smith 0:58
where he wrote about his adventures.

Bob Smith 1:00
Well, sort of. It’s where he talked about his ventures. Tell me, it’s Marco Polo. Oh, okay. Because when he returned to Venice, after his adventure in China and so forth, he became a gentleman commander of a war vessel, striving to hold off Genovese raiders. And his galley was captured and he was hauled to Genoa and he was jailed there and it was during jail, that a writer heard Marco Polo stories, and he insisted they be written down. Okay. And basically that guy did it. He said, You told me the stories. I’ll get them published. tunity

Marcia Smith 1:35
was locking.

Bob Smith 1:37
Locking. Yeah. Yep. Marco Polo. If he hadn’t been imprisoned, his stories probably would never have been written down.

Marcia Smith 1:44
Very interesting.

Bob Smith 1:46
Did he ever get out? Oh, yeah. He went on to get married. He lived another 25 years, became a wealthy merchant had a wife, kids. He was a really interesting guy. You know, he was born into this merchant family. His dad and his uncle had done a lot of business in China. And then they took him on a trip. And they were gone for almost 25 years old together. And they served in Chinese government. For the cupola con, they became great friends. Okay. And then he was sent on many diplomatic missions himself. Marco was throughout the empire. He went to Southeast Asia and places like Burma, India, Indonesia, Vietnam. Yeah. And then traveled extensively inside China for 17 years, he saw a lot of things that had previously been unknown, came back, was thrown in jail, got out in 1299, published all this stuff, and people didn’t believe him. They thought it was a bunch of tall tales, died at the age of 69. And we know all that about him because all this was published. I mean, 1299 is a long time ago. You know, he

Marcia Smith 2:45
didn’t know that little kids would all be yelling Marco Polo in the swimming pool someday.

Bob Smith 2:50
What’s that mean?

Marcia Smith 2:50
That’s a game that kids play.

Bob Smith 2:52
Oh, I didn’t know that. Yeah, even our kids and there’s an app today called Marco Polo, which is a video app. Yeah, video calls. Okay.

Marcia Smith 2:59
Eva Braun and Adolf Hitler. How long were they married?

Bob Smith 3:03
I think they were married. Just a short time. I thought they got married just before he committed suicide. Am I wrong? No,

Marcia Smith 3:09
you’re not. Yeah, they were together like 10 years, but they were married like for 36 hours before. They both did themselves in Tierra. He did it with a shot in the head and she did it with a cyanide pill. But he was 23 years older than her and she was like 17 year old photographer when she met him. And she really had a thing for him and wanted to marry him and even tried suicide twice because he went marry her. Wow. But finally she got her wish and they did it together. And so as a little bonus, he said let’s get married. And let’s get married

Bob Smith 3:45
before we kill her so yeah, what $1 Oh, dear. Okay, speaking of killing what word originally meant walking hospital. Pneumonia? No,

Marcia Smith 3:56
I think walking pneumonia walking hospital liking hospital.

Bob Smith 4:01
It’s a word we use all the time whenever we need to call because somebody got hurt. We have to call in emergency 411

Marcia Smith 4:07
Ambulance ambulance unit B A 911.

Bob Smith 4:12
The first recorded use of ambulance was in 1819. The word comes from the French hospital ambulance meaning walking hospital. But ambulator the Latin word means to walk so a walking hospital. What does that mean a mobile hospital that follows an army in warfare. They were first called ambulances, those tents where you’d have care for the wounded. And then during the Crimean War, the British started using ambulance as the name of the covered horse drawn wagons that carted soldiers off the battle so it evolved certainly over the years to what we use today. Basically, the ambulance is the vehicle Yeah, that we call in case there’s somebody who’s sick or injured, but it originally meant walking hospital. Okay. Curious.

Marcia Smith 4:56
Okay, so you know, I’m reading devil in the White City. Yes, that true story of the building of the Columbia World’s Fair in Chicago and serial killer, who ran amok in Chicago during the same time. This is

Bob Smith 5:11
the Eric Larson book from a few years back. Yeah, yes.

Marcia Smith 5:15
It’s it’s riveting on many levels. But anyway, here’s the question. Why was the white city of the great Chicago World’s Fair? White? It’s called the White City. Yeah. Why was it all white? Well, you

Bob Smith 5:29
know, I always thought it had to do with electricity, because electricity was the wonder of the age and they lit it up at night. And that was totally different. Nobody had ever seen cities that way. Yeah. So I would assume it was because of the night lights. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 5:42
that’s a good guess. Okay. It’s not right. But oh, it didn’t it. It lent itself to the spectacle. Yes. It makes it was that was the White City.

Bob Smith 5:52
They did light it up at night, right? Yes. So I’m half right. Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.

Marcia Smith 5:57
But what happened was, they ran out of time, to paint everything. And everybody was fighting and there was no time left. And finally, somebody at the committee meeting. Nobody knows who said, Let’s just paint the whole damn thing. White. Don’t care. You know, one color.

Bob Smith 6:13
All the buildings were white, because they didn’t run out of paint. They ran out

Marcia Smith 6:17
of time. Yeah. To Do you know, although this and that, and the cornices and, but they painted everything white in the Grand Concourse there. And it was the spectacular, and then at night with the white lights on it, it blew everybody away. Now

Bob Smith 6:30
you told me as you’re reading this, that it was great pandemonium, I mean, this committee was disorganized, or all kinds of amazing the fare even came off. I don’t

Marcia Smith 6:39
know how it ever came off. There was so many things to do. And it had so little time to do it, how all those buildings got built. And I think it was Nigerians arrived a year early. Oh, that’s right. You told me about that. They were supposed to come for the exhibit. And they had the month, right. But they came a year early. So they had to go to New York, and pick them up and bring them back and have them housed on the land somewhere to wait out the year, a year they had they had all these people and camels and stuff and things to sell and it was it was a crazy time.

Bob Smith 7:17
All right, well, now what kind of drink would you bring to a party? Marsha, I’m giving you choice here. Wine, wine, beer, spirits, flavored malt beverages, hard Seltzer, or cider. Wow, I bring wine. This is interesting. They did a study in 2021. The Harris company did a poll of 2000 adults to find out. You know, they asked what would you bring to share the party and those are the six choices wine, beer spirits flavored, and it broke out differently by demographics by

Marcia Smith 7:47
age. So this cider was the millennials those over 65

Bob Smith 7:51
said they would bring wine, right? That’s the overwhelming choice of baby boomers. I’ll explain why this happened in a moment. What about the Gen Xers the people born between 1965 and 1980?

Marcia Smith 8:03
They brought beer different ales and stuff like that. They were split

Bob Smith 8:07
between wine and beer. Okay, then how about millennials? If you ask them, people born between 1980 and 1995, what would you bring to a party?

Marcia Smith 8:16
What they’d bring this cider? Well, what are the choices? No, no, you’re

Bob Smith 8:20
all wrong. The millennials were evenly split among all top five options. And cider was the last Oh really? Yeah. Why the differences while the researchers suggested boomers were drawn to line as youngsters because domestic beer was pretty dreary back in the day, it was awful. Craft beer wasn’t even a thing yet. And beer was made by these big companies and they had watered it down. Spirits and cocktails were what their parents drank baby boomers parents, so boomers were drawn to wine with their many varieties and nuances. Okay, Gen Xers grew up with a whole different world craft beers began appearing from hundreds of small breweries creative cocktails started remember the movie cocktail with Tom Cruise. So Gen Xers like wine and beer that leaves Millennials a bigger group with a longer future. Millennials have less disposable income. So they gravitated from expensive wine to craft beer and creative cocktails, creative cocktails. And in 2022. The state of the wine industry report said because wines primary users are shrinking or dying. Baby Boomers. And because wine producers aren’t united in their stance on social justice and environmental issues, which are important to millennials. wine sales could plummet by 20% over the next decade

Marcia Smith 9:35
ain’t so Joe.

Bob Smith 9:36
This is from an article drink up Millennials police from the New York Times.

Marcia Smith 9:41
Okay, well, very, very interesting. Okay, Bob, I have a question for you. Yes. Would you rather be a hobo, a tramp or a bum?

Bob Smith 9:50
We’d rather not be any of those things.

Marcia Smith 9:52
That’s true. But there is a social ladder in that crew.

Bob Smith 9:56
Okay, tell me the difference. Hey, this

Marcia Smith 9:58
is according to Wikipedia. So a hobo, by definition is simply a migratory worker who travels by jumping the rails. He might take long vacations, but basically he works and travels the rails. So they’re vagabonds, but they work. Yeah. Okay. They want to make some money. A trap, on the other hand never works. If it can be avoided. He simply travels. Hence the name tramp tramping around. Yes, correct. Okay. And on the lowest of the social ladder in that group is the bump who neither works or travels? Unless prompted to by the police.

Bob Smith 10:34
Like move along? Yeah, exactly. So a bum doesn’t do anything. They don’t work and they don’t travel. Tramp travels, but it doesn’t work at a hobo travels and works.

Marcia Smith 10:47
Oh, so I guess in that three sound, we’d want to be hobos. Yes, I

Bob Smith 10:51
guess so. Okay. All right. Thank you for explaining that

Marcia Smith 10:54
way. I’m

Bob Smith 10:55
here. Okay, Marsha. You know the name Nike, Adidas, Puma, Reebok. You know those names. They’re all big names in basketball shoes today. But how far back to basketball shoes go. Oh,

Marcia Smith 11:06
well, as far as basketball. Right? And I don’t know when that started. Well, basketball

Bob Smith 11:11
started in the 1890s. In Massachusetts. Yes, it was. I think it was James Naismith. And he helped put up the apple basket. Yeah, the baskets. They were I think they were bushel baskets in a gymnasium in Massachusetts. And that’s where the game was invented. But basketball shoes came along a little later. And the converse Shoe Company was one of the first that did them. 1917 were the first high top sneakers for basketball. So it’s over 100 years ago. Yeah. And Converse has an interesting background there because the guy who started that company, he fell on a set of stairs and decided I didn’t want that to happen anymore. So he invented rubber shoes, shoes with rubber soles to prevent future accident. Well

Marcia Smith 11:54
see now that’s one of those profitability by accidents.

Bob Smith 11:58
Basketball, yes. About that. Yeah. Okay. Now, so who was Chuck Taylor, you’ve heard that name.

Marcia Smith 12:04
I have our kid always wanted Chuck Taylors. He was a skateboarder and a basketball player. I will say why he must have been a basketball player. He was

Bob Smith 12:15
You’re right. He was an early basketball player. He was a 20 year old professional basketball player who joined Converse as a basketball player no as a salesman. He loved playing basketball, but he joined them as a salesman. No, no, no. Back in those days. They weren’t celebrity endorsers of things. Yeah. So what he did was he became a very active salesman in the company. And he actually went out and started promoting the Shoe By holding free basketball clinics for coaches and players at high schools and colleges. And he was so famous people used to say if I need a coach, I’m going to call Chuck Taylor. He knows people and he would actually recommend people to be hired as coaches around the country as the go to guy but he did these things for free. And at the end of each one of these basketball clinics, they’d go down to the local shoe store and get our Converse All Stars that was the name of the shoes, you know, he became so famous doing this to guess what the company decided, let’s rename the shoes, the Chuck Taylor All Stars and hence, that’s how it all began back in the 1920s. That’s how long that name has been. That

Marcia Smith 13:22
was just like around for 30 years or something. No idea it was that old.

Bob Smith 13:26
They are actually captured 80% of the market. At one point the NBA the NCAA, the US Army, and the US Olympic team all wore Chuck Taylor shoes. So did Michael Jordan. He grew up with them. So did Elvis Presley. You can find pictures of Elvis wearing the shoes, and Kurt Cobain. So it went through all the generations. They bailed to capitalize on the 1980s praise for sports shoes, and they did go out of business. But guess who bought them? Nike, Nike. They call them Nike Converse shoes or Converse Nike shoes, but they they kept the name Chuck Taylor. And today they sell nearly a billion dollars worth of shoes with the Chuck Taylor label. So that’s where Chuck Taylor came from, I

Marcia Smith 14:10
thought quite interesting lives on on people’s feet.

Bob Smith 14:13
So how much money do you think he made from all those

Marcia Smith 14:15
shots? He probably didn’t make anything. He was on commission for sales. Right?

Bob Smith 14:20
That’s right. It wasn’t like a Michael Jordan Air Jordan thing. Yeah. But people who knew him years later said Hey, he loved his life. He was on the road 365 days a year. He lived out of hotels. He never owned a house. He was always selling Converse shoes. And he worked for them for 47 years before he retired and he had an unlimited expense account. So that’s Chuck Taylor story. Wow.

Marcia Smith 14:43
That’s quite a story. It never got married. Never had family just lived in a hotel and enjoyed it. Yeah, well, that’s the key. If you’re happy,

Bob Smith 14:52
you’re happy apparently a very affable, fun person from what you read into. Okay, Bob,

Marcia Smith 14:57
back in 2005. What animal escaped a Kansas city zoo and is still seen roaming the country today. Wow. They

Bob Smith 15:08
haven’t been able to catch this animal. Now they have not. Is it a dangerous animal? No, that’s

Marcia Smith 15:13
why it’s still Brown. Okay. But it’s very out of place in many places, including Wisconsin. Well, what is it? It’s a large pink flamingo.

Bob Smith 15:25
When was this when did it leave?

Marcia Smith 15:27
1005. So it’s been seven times since that time. 17 years. His name is Pink Floyd.

Bob Smith 15:34
Floyd,

Marcia Smith 15:35
and he is literally a free bird, right?

Bob Smith 15:39
Oh gosh. And he got all the Rock and Roll references there

Marcia Smith 15:41
and he has been seen and documented traveling through such places as Texas, Arkansas, Wisconsin and Louisiana to name just a few. He’s considered the longest living animal escapee around today.

Bob Smith 15:55
That is a long time and that’s a long time for a bird to live to Flamingo

Marcia Smith 15:58
they fly a little bit, don’t they? I mean, this guy got from Wisconsin to Texas. That’s quite a journey, Floyd,

Bob Smith 16:05
the flamingo Pink Floyd.

Marcia Smith 16:07
Yeah, she’s

Bob Smith 16:10
okay. All right. Why did the Duke of Wellington oppose railroads in the 19th century? Ah, well, now remember, railroads began in Great Britain. I think Robert Stevenson started the first one and went up from London North he invented

Marcia Smith 16:28
Beef Wellington Beef Wellington has nothing to do with Okay, now tell me. Okay. Well, the Duke of Wellington

Bob Smith 16:35
remembered in history for saying he disliked railroads, because to quote him, they encouraged the lower classes to move about. Move about,

Marcia Smith 16:47
well, we can’t have that. Oh, my God, no, what’s wrong? Duke? Commerce? You can’t have that. Oh, look, there are some poor person walking across our line and

Bob Smith 16:56
they’re moving about a

Marcia Smith 16:58
hobo traveler. Oh, geez. Oh, we need to take a break.

Bob Smith 17:03
Oh, gosh. Okay, well, wait a minute. Let me let me see here. Wait a minute. I have a break statement. Here

Marcia Smith 17:09
you do.

Bob Smith 17:10
We’ll be back in just a moment. And a clever one it is. We’ll be back in just a moment. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Michelle Smith.

Marcia Smith 17:20
Did you write that yourself? Okay.

Bob Smith 17:26
We’re back. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith, the podcast dedicated to insatiable curiosity and lifelong learning.

Marcia Smith 17:35
Oh God, where’d you come up with that? Did you stay up all night? Thinking of that?

Bob Smith 17:39
I found that I thought it was pretty good. satiable curiosity. Alright. Well, Marcia, I have a question for you about a famous person. famous author, Edgar Allan Poe. Now he had a lot of great works. invented a detective one of the first detective series. What was Edgar Allan Poe’s bestseller in his career?

Marcia Smith 18:03
Was it a poem or book? There was a

Bob Smith 18:07
book. Okay. Could have been a book of poems. But was it worth? Really

Marcia Smith 18:13
march with it? No, it Harsin Parkwest it. Okay, tell me I have a feeling no matter what I say. I’m gonna get it wrong.

Bob Smith 18:20
Yeah, you won’t believe this. Edgar Allan Poe’s best selling book in his lifetime was a textbook on Concha ology. conch. What the heck is that a classification of seashells

Marcia Smith 18:34
does not sound pole like?

Bob Smith 18:36
No, you know, he we think of him it for his dark fiction and so forth. This poems, quote The Raven Nevermore. But with an engineering degree from West Point, he made much of his living reviewing books on science. That’s where he got most of his income was from that. And in the 1840s, the term science was barely 15 years old. No kidding. Yeah. Brand new field.

Marcia Smith 18:58
No, that’s that’s a remarkable actually. He wrote a book. You’re right. I could stay here for 10 years and when the guests that book on seashells, okay, Bob, here’s the Presidential bone I’m throwing you probably know, right away. How long was President Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address?

Bob Smith 19:16
Well, I think it was only about two and a half minutes. And that’s close

Marcia Smith 19:20
enough. You when it was about two it was it’s about two minutes, and it was less than 275 words long. Isn’t that amazing? It is and he gave it to after the Union victory at Gettysburg. And he was on the DS with Edward Everett, Edward Everett, who was one of the famous orators of his time and he spoke for two hours sat down.

Bob Smith 19:45
And then Lincoln got up and got up spoke for two minutes and sat down every goes what what was that? It was it’s over. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 19:52
immediate reactions to the speech were very mixed. Yes. But in the years that followed, the Gettysburg Address became one of The most important speeches in American history. Again, it’s quality, not quantity packed in those 275 words was an amazing commentary.

Bob Smith 20:11
Well, you know, it’s the 19th century, they don’t have television, so they have to be entertained some way. Yeah. And so when people we’d get up and speak, it would be an hour, two hours of talk, you know, he is puppets. I don’t know if they use puppets. I don’t think they did at Gettysburg. Anyway, it probably wasn’t appropriate. The most fascinating thing about the Gettysburg Address to me has always been that line about The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, and it was absolutely wrong. The world noted that the world remembered, I remember, in third grade having to memorize the Gettysburg Address. I did. Yeah. And you had to learn the thing. And then it was like a test. You had to repeat it and people got up and did it was a good thing to learn. It wasn’t it made us diagram. What is this about? What are these things? How much is Four score and seven years? Yeah. How many years is that? 4487

Marcia Smith 21:01
years when I said 8087

Bob Smith 21:04
years, and you do the math? That was when the Declaration of Independence was written. So 87 years ago, our forefathers brought on this continent a new nation, a new niche. All right, Abraham Lincoln impression, your score and seven years ago, I don’t. It’s well, it’s perfect. That’s what must have had a high kind of a high pitch and reedy kind of a boy, we talk like this long and tall following score and say, Am I sure that brings to write this question. Where does the word hooch come from for liquor? Now, let me tell you in my day, I knew about a lot of who and where does the term hooch come

Marcia Smith 21:43
from? Well, that’s a very interesting answer and share it with us. Because I don’t know. Well,

Bob Smith 21:49
it comes from Alaska. And here’s the situation US Army soldiers were stationed in Alaska after became a US territory for many years. Okay. They just put the military up there because that’s a new territory and its own bias, right? They were forbidden whiskey. So they bought it from the WHO chinnu Indian. The hoot you know, Indians who made their own. And by 1877 The soldiers in Alaska were calling all strong, homemade or illegal whiskey. Who Shinu I

Marcia Smith 22:19
love it. Ya know, I’ve learned a lot with that question, Bob. Thank you.

Bob Smith 22:23
Then during the Klondike Gold Rush of the 1890s that nickname was shortened to just hooch. Yeah, so that’s the story. That’s where Bucha came from. Aren’t you glad you asked the question? That’s,

Marcia Smith 22:34
that’s very enlightening. Where Bob, where is the world’s largest desert? Not desert. I know where your mind is going. Desert largest

Bob Smith 22:45
desert is? Now I saw something about this. I think I know the answer. But I don’t know why. Okay, I heard it’s in a place you wouldn’t expect it’s not in the Sahara. It’s not in the great desert of the American desert. It’s not in South America. Where is it?

Marcia Smith 23:04
Marcia? It’s in Antarctica, who would

Bob Smith 23:07
think Antarctica would have the world’s largest desert? And that is that because of the definition of what a desert is? Yes, there

Marcia Smith 23:14
it is. Okay, and it’s not the heat. It’s the precipitation that defines it. And so if your area receives less than 10 inches of precipitation a year, you are a desert. And the Arctic, which is 5.4 million square miles, has 6.5 inches of precipitation a year. That’s it. That’s it, and it’s comes in the form of snow. So behind it is the Sahara in the Arabian and the Gobi, those are all in the top five, but Antarctica is the biggest desert. So who

Bob Smith 23:51
would have thought? Not because I always I always associated deserts with sun and heat. Yeah, but it’s not it’s the lack of precipitation. And as long as I’m on and Okay, okay, long as you’re there. There’s

Marcia Smith 24:03
a lake there that never freezes why,

Bob Smith 24:06
wait a minute. How can there be a lake where there’s a desert? Well, okay, that’s the precipitation. Yeah, okay, lake that never freezes. But it’s in Antarctica. Boy, you’ve got three different conditions there that just don’t they blow your mind. I know. That’s why I’m here. In Antarctica. It’s where there is a desert and it’s a lake. You do say

Marcia Smith 24:24
take a side road to crazy don’t Yes.

Bob Smith 24:26
Take a side road. So I don’t know the answer. Okay. All

Marcia Smith 24:30
right. They have a lake in Antarctica called deep lake. And it is 10 times more salty than the ocean real. It’s as dead as the Dead Sea. It’s just dead as can be. Yeah. And so because of all the hyper salinity, it prevents almost all life forms from thriving their tos. Although it is home to a collection of something called extreme all files extremal files, which are organized somes that thrive in the most extreme conditions on Earth, which is like me in the kitchen. That is an extreme condition. Yeah, deep lake is 180 feet below sea level. And it only gets saltier the farther down you go Jays

Bob Smith 25:15
net Interesting. Yeah, I had no idea. I never heard of that before me either. All right. All right, Marcia, what famous American who was not blind preferred braille to visual? Really?

Marcia Smith 25:27
Really? Oh wait, wait, this was a scientist wasn’t it? Yes. Okay. It was one of the big ones. Yes, he was Einstein. No, the other guy. There are a lot. Oh, there’s

Bob Smith 25:37
only one other guy. No, there’s

Marcia Smith 25:39
a lot. Okay, who else? Ah, Edison. Edison is Thomas

Bob Smith 25:42
Edison. He was not blind, but he preferred braille to visual reading and remember he proposed to his wife in Braille. That’s

Marcia Smith 25:48
right. That’s what I remember.

Bob Smith 25:50
Now you have a last word you have a thought? Do

Marcia Smith 25:53
I have a quote? Okay. And

Bob Smith 25:55
then I have a famous last words. Oh, who wants to go first? You go ahead.

Marcia Smith 26:01
Don’t shake your head at me, Mr. Fancy Pants. Fancy Pants.

Bob Smith 26:05
I’m not my pants aren’t fancy. Come on. All right. What’s the Thought for the Day?

Marcia Smith 26:11
It’s Albert Einstein, Albert Einstein. It’s our Einstein. Okay, okay. He makes the bagels down down the road. Okay. He said, There are two kinds of people, those who believe everything is a miracle. And those who believe nothing is a miracle.

Bob Smith 26:30
That’s probably true. What do you what do you think? I think everything’s a miracle. So

Marcia Smith 26:34
do I. Yeah, even the show.

Bob Smith 26:37
Okay, here’s the last famous quote and it’s kind of fun. This is florid Zig Ifield who was hallucinating in his final moments. He was the great showman of 1930. At flow central Danny Bryce said, these are his last words and they’re written with exclamation marks. Well read him the way he probably was reading if he was hallucinating. Curtain! first music! light! ready for the last finale? Great! The show looks good! The show looks good! Really. And then he died. Wow.

Marcia Smith 27:05
Finale lights 10

Bob Smith 27:09
That’s a good way to go. Sounds like it was a good way to go out.

Marcia Smith 27:12
I wonder what he was seeing in his in his dying moments there. Maybe it was a wonderful, you know, extravaganza starring him.

Bob Smith 27:22
A good way to go out and it’s time for us to go. Yeah, that’s it for today. I

Marcia Smith 27:25
Bob Smith rate transition.

Bob Smith 27:27
I’m Marcia Smith. Join us again next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin.

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