145 Provocative Trivia

Bob Smith 0:00
How did chewing gum lead to the discovery of an ancient civilization?

Marcia Smith 0:04
And what famous sitcom started and ended with the same phrase

Bob Smith 0:10
really started and ended with the same phrase? Okay, answers to these and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob

Marcia Smith 0:20
and Marsha Smith.

Bob Smith 0:37
Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down. Steer clear of crazy. Take a side road to Saturday, and get some perspective on life with interesting information and trivia. That’s what our show is all about. Well, Marcia, how did chewing gum lead to the discovery of an ancient civilization? I say discovery being European discovery. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 0:58
yeah. Well, I don’t know. Someone got it stuck on the bottom of their shoes and stumbled into a new world.

Bob Smith 1:05
It’s a little bit of a trick question. Yeah, yeah. But it has nothing to do with sticking gum on the bottom of your shoe.

Marcia Smith 1:12
I’m sure it doesn’t. Okay. Tell me it has something to do with the ingredients in gum. Right. That’s right. They went on a search looking for this certain gum. That’s

Bob Smith 1:21
right. That’s exactly right. Well, thank you. chewing gums main ingredient is chicle.

Marcia Smith 1:26
Right. Cool. Is that why they’re called Chiclets? Yeah,

Bob Smith 1:29
that’s right. Okay. And when chewing gum began to gain in popularity in the 19th century, there was a great demand for chicken, the sap of the sapodilla tree. Chewing gum is made from chicken. The SAP Adela trees are located in the jungles of Central and South America and workers going into the jungle to collect chicle knew about many archaeological sites that were covered in vegetation, the Mayan civilization. Okay, and they alerted archaeologists. So you’re looking for that pair of them. We find this here all the time. Oh, no kidding. So that’s how archaeologists got into the Mayan world in the 19th century and started uncovering all of this, which part of the world Central America Yeah, and apparently chicken was a big product for them to the wood of the tree, the sapodilla tree, the Mayans used the wood from that. They found Mayan wood around the temples, some of the temples that survived. And then they also harvested the gum to quench their thirst and everything

Marcia Smith 2:25
they did, they did use it for that purpose to chew on it. Yeah. And

Bob Smith 2:30
the gum was also one of their ancient trade goods and merchants took it to Central Mexico where it was adopted by the Aztec culture. In fact, the word chicle is derived from a word which means to stick like gum going back to your idea of the gum Sticking to something and the resin and wood may also have been used to produce glue and varnish in the Mayan culture. Marcia, now let’s go to your question about a sitcom that started and ended with the same phrase, you know,

Marcia Smith 2:57
this sitcom you I think you saw the first and the last probably, and it’s a nine year running sitcom. And it I don’t think many of us knew when it ended, that that was the same phrase, the one they used in the beginning. I bet it was mash them. No, no. Is that what jumped into my head? Okay, Mary Tyler Moore now. All right. Well, it was it. It was Seinfeld. In a full circle moment. The first scene of the series started in a coffee shop with Jerry telling George that a button on his shirt was too high. And that it makes or breaks the shirt since it’s in no man’s land. And then the very last scene of the finale finale, which hardly anybody liked, as I recall, when remember when they’re all sitting in the jail cell? Yes. Jerry alludes to it again, saying The second button is the key button. It literally makes or breaks the shirt. As the camera pans back. George says, haven’t we had this conversation before? Really? Yeah. And Jerry ends the series with maybe we have

Bob Smith 4:03
oh, isn’t that funny? And I bet very few of us ever even know what I what are they talking about? Yeah,

Marcia Smith 4:08
I didn’t know what they were talking about. Which is part of the reason everybody hated it.

Bob Smith 4:12
It’s an inside joke. Yeah. Yeah. Very inside joke. Oh, that’s interesting. Well, that’s kind of a cute little trivia thing.

Marcia Smith 4:19
Okay,

Bob Smith 4:20
here’s an animal question. You’re you’ve been the animal question expert up to this point on this show. I’m

Marcia Smith 4:25
the expert. Yes, you are.

Bob Smith 4:26
So let me ask you this. What animals have been known to become intoxicated, and have refused admission to their communities by their fellow animals. Birds, no. Smaller

Marcia Smith 4:38
than that smaller than birds mosquitoes. Smaller than that.

Bob Smith 4:44
But almost said it. I heard it.

Marcia Smith 4:45
I was gonna say an ants. Yes.

Bob Smith 4:49
All although they are, for the most part, no nonsense insects. Some ants have been known to get stoned on a nectar which they lap from the bodies of certain beetles problem ants like these have been known to fall down, refusing to move any further

Marcia Smith 5:03
and they don’t carry their loads. I’ll bet I’m not gonna carry that. So what

Bob Smith 5:08
happens the sober ants crowd around them stroking their bodies attempting to nudge them back to their feet and often the ants have to be carried back to the nest to sleep at all.

Marcia Smith 5:17
Are you kid isn’t that malaria?

Bob Smith 5:20
One naturalist has reported that he saw one ant carry another intoxicated ant up to the nest, only to be met by two working ants who refuse to let the drunken ant is that’s funny, isn’t that they grabbed him carried him across the path and flooded into a pond.

Marcia Smith 5:37
Oh my god, does that kill them?

Bob Smith 5:39
No, the dunking had a sobering effect. Oh, just like real people. You just like them in the river. See if

Marcia Smith 5:45
that’s a lot of complicated behavior there for and Isn’t that

Bob Smith 5:49
hilarious? That’s from the Encyclopedia of amazing but true facts. Wow. I like that. So I assume it’s true.

Marcia Smith 5:55
I assume it’s

Bob Smith 5:57
funny imagery, isn’t it to think of an ad being like, What is wrong with Harold that he’s in the nectar again? That should

Marcia Smith 6:04
be in one of the cartoons, right? It sounds like a Disney cartoon. Yeah. Okay, Bob, there’s a major heatwave going on in parts of the world. Yes. Including the United Kingdom. It’s where it’s often sweltering to over 100 degrees and above in

Bob Smith 6:21
Fahrenheit, but they don’t use that, of course they use in our

Marcia Smith 6:24
degrees, just so we can all understand it. A

Bob Smith 6:28
little provincial look at England from America. Yes. 100 degrees. Yes.

Marcia Smith 6:31
Talk like, I don’t understand. Going into that thinking, Bob. How many Brits do you think have air conditioning?

Bob Smith 6:40
Oh, very few. I’ll bet it’s because it’s never been a big deal. You know, it’s usually been moist and wet the summers and it can be cool. It can be hot, but not that

Marcia Smith 6:49
hot. Yeah. So what’s your answer?

Bob Smith 6:52
What’s the question again?

Marcia Smith 6:54
You just went off there on a tangent. What percentage of Brits do you think have air conditioning?

Bob Smith 7:00
Very few. I think that is my answer.

Marcia Smith 7:02
But give me a poll. And

Bob Smith 7:03
I’ll say 20% or less.

Marcia Smith 7:05
Yeah, well, roughly 5% Oh, my goodness. Compare that to over 85% in the US. That’s a lot of people. 85% Yeah, but Britain’s rarely get that hot because it is an island. But I don’t know after this summer, I wouldn’t mind being an H fac dealer in.

Bob Smith 7:26
Oh my goodness. Can you actually make money making a killing now?

Marcia Smith 7:29
Yeah, just like crazy. Well,

Bob Smith 7:31
I’ve got a question about a country What country was originally called New Holland. Now I’m gonna give you a choice here. Thank

Marcia Smith 7:38
you. Thank you.

Bob Smith 7:39
Was it Australia, New Zealand, Indonesia, or South Africa. And it was on the maps there were actual globes with New Holland. Same again, okay. Australia, New Zealand, Indonesia or South Africa say New Zealand. That’s what I would have guessed. I thought it would be New Zealand but it’s actually Australia. Believe it or not long before Europeans arrived in Australia. It was widely speculated that the Southern Hemisphere was home to a large landmass. It was often referred to as Terra, Australia’s incognita, the southern unknown land. So the name Australia comes from Latin for southern but that wasn’t the first name Europeans gave the Dutch who sailed near it called it New Holland. Yeah, it appeared as New Holland on globe starting in 1681. But the Dutch never colonized the island. They just went by it when they were colonizing New Zealand. Then in 1804, English explorer Matthew Flinders proposed changing the name to land of the South. That’s what Australia means. Now, one more question. Another continent was once named Australia Land of the soul really? New Zealand? No, a continent, another continent. So it has to be Greenland. No, just the opposite.

Marcia Smith 8:55
Iceland,

Bob Smith 8:56
Antarctica, that was called that was called Australia originally. Really? Yeah, the bottom of the earth that was first named Australia and it fits it’s the southern land right? But now it’s known as Antarctica and Australia. The land down under is the Southern landmass. That’s what the name means. I I didn’t know that, that that meant South

Marcia Smith 9:16
and Latin. We missed Latin class that day. I

Bob Smith 9:20
took Spanish I didn’t. But you know, it’s derived from Latin. I

Marcia Smith 9:23
guess I got out of English by the skin. So Australis

Bob Smith 9:27
is Latin for Austral, which means Southern and that’s where Australia comes from. Here’s another pertinent thing that just came in the news. You know, we’ve heard CEOs over the past few years say it was time to return to the office. You know, they warned that executives may have to take heart action against employees who want to work remote, right? Wonder how’s that going? Well, here’s an update on that. A study from April 2022. From a research consortium backed by the office messaging company Slack has found that 35% of non executive surveyed were back in the office five days a week. But guess what? Only 19% of executives were they really? Yeah, they stayed home. Well, that surprises still staying home.

Marcia Smith 10:13
How can you be in charge of anything if you’re not there?

Bob Smith 10:16
So for two years after COVID strikes, fewer executives are in the office than workers. And that comes from a New York Times article, Hey, is anybody watching the intern? Because the problem is the interns are graduating from college, they want to go into a company and form relationships with people to hate their career, and there’s nobody there. I

Marcia Smith 10:36
think I would insist on executives at least three days a week, don’t.

Bob Smith 10:40
Let’s do that. Let’s get the workers together and tell the executives what to do you get your butts in here.

Marcia Smith 10:46
That’s just dumb. Don’t you kind of wonder where this is all headed with all the empty office space?

Bob Smith 10:51
Well, and you know, it’s not just people who worked in cities, either. What about all those big suburban office parks? That’s

Marcia Smith 10:57
fun. I’m thinking all the time. What are they going to do with all their suffering, too? If

Bob Smith 11:01
you drove on the Illinois State Tollway for years, you might remember seeing big office parks with huge logos like the one for all state insurance. We did all the time. All states former 232 acre headquarters campus is empty. 95% of their employees were able to work from home during the COVID lockdown. And so they said Okay, goodbye. They said goodbye to their home of 55 years. So that complex, it may be developed into a warehouse complex. And developers have other big office parks in suburbs are thinking of turning them into you know, apartment buildings or housing complexes. Wow. So big changes in the world. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 11:38
Who would have thought that? Yeah, one of the biggest outcomes from the lockdown was all that

Bob Smith 11:44
this is a good final quote on that, as one developer put it, don’t worry in the built environment, nothing ever completely disappears. That’s been true of factories, mills and canals. They’ve all been converted into something else. They think it may be true of the 20th century suburban office parks too. Okay,

Marcia Smith 12:02
so Bob, in the past, we have talked about the most popular foods in the United States. Pizza topped the list 55% followed by hamburger ice cream and french fries all top notch healthy fall

Bob Smith 12:15
at the top of the food pyramid. You’re absolutely right. Who

Marcia Smith 12:19
do you think is considered the healthiest state? In the

Bob Smith 12:22
United States? The healthiest state? I’d say California,

Marcia Smith 12:25
I would have said that or Colorado. But no, ne ne it is Vermont. Oh, the obesity rate and smoking is lower than many states with just about 80% of the residents reporting daily exercise. So Vermont really tops it. But returning to the most popular foods. Okay, question. Let’s talk about the world based on data from 50 countries. What are the most popular foods in the

Bob Smith 12:53
world? Now? That’s an interesting question. Yeah, most popular food I would say rice has to be one because it’d be big in in Asia.

Marcia Smith 13:01
I mean, it’s a huge crop. It’s Fourth on the list of the world and it’s used

Bob Smith 13:05
in all kinds of European dishes too. I mean, you know, American and European Fourth on the list right? Yeah. Okay, so I need to have the top three Yeah, I bet bread has to be one

Marcia Smith 13:14
that’s farther down the road really? Yeah, way down because I think of grains you’ll like the top because it’s pretty much what you eat a lot. What is it? Let us know a lot of salad number one is salad okay. And number two is chicken

Bob Smith 13:30
Okay, so they list salad as a food Yeah. Oh, I think of salad is a combination of things well,

Marcia Smith 13:34
every country has a little different mix mash up of salad okay, but the number one foods followed by chicken cheese rice and then these I don’t understand tea and coffee Are you ever think of tea and coffee as the top foods? Well, only

Bob Smith 13:51
going back to that thing where he talked about the tea being thought of as an aphrodisiac I’m sure that you know number of people were putting tea leaves and their sandwiches and everything. Yeah, see that but and

Marcia Smith 13:59
that’s number seven is milk followed by eggs, apples and soup. Wow. That’s interesting. I didn’t hear any beef on there. Now it comes later. But wow. 10 most popular foods in the world. Well, the top

Bob Smith 14:13
one sound pretty healthy. Yeah. What are the again the top four let’s say

Marcia Smith 14:16
ah salad. chicken cheese and rice. Not bad. No. That’s great. Yeah. Okay. What do you got? Mr. Bob?

Bob Smith 14:24
I’ve got a question. On expression idea. We love word expression questions here. Yeah. Okay. So Cat got your tongue Cat got your tongue? What do they think was the origin of that expression? Now that’s a question you throw to a person when they don’t seem to know what to say. Like I didn’t just there pause for a moment. Yeah. Can I got your tongue? Where did they think that came from?

Marcia Smith 14:50
Gosh, I don’t know is it go back to Romans. It

Bob Smith 14:52
goes back to punishment. Believe it or not. Oh

Marcia Smith 14:55
god did they put out explained Lucy?

Bob Smith 14:59
Back to the British Of course, the British Navy the British Navy. One of the possible sources for the phrase Cat got your tongue is the cat o nine tails, which were used as whips for flogging in the English navy being whipped caused severe pain so much so that the victim might stay mute for an extended period of time really. So that’s one potential. Another potential origin of Cat got your tongue comes from ancient Egypt where people would cut out blasphemy ears and liars tongues and feed them to cats. That’s a store. Yes, the cruelty of human beings another big topic here on the offering. But T. Cat got your tongue. You’re not talking.

Marcia Smith 15:46
Oh, Lord, I think we better take a break. Okay,

Bob Smith 15:48
we’ll be back in just a moment. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We’re back in the cat doesn’t have our tongue. I’m Bob Smith and

Marcia Smith 15:58
Marcia Smith. We’re

Bob Smith 15:59
here with the off ramp. Our podcast we do weekly for the Cedarburg Public Library in Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and which goes out over the world on multiple platforms. Yes, we are global. And that means you have feedback on things once in a while and I have feedback from our friend Steven short one of our listeners. You remember last week I talked about Buckminster Fuller being boring and I felt bad about that. Well, Steve worked for Buckminster Fuller when we were in college. He worked That’s right, I forgot about and so he said as I sit here with a couple of feet on my framed Dymaxion map my foot which is a Buckminster Fuller map, of course, which surfaced during the move. He just moved. I offer a defense of RBF. He calls him Buckminster Fuller. What if you had popped into an advanced psychology presentation or an auto repair class? Would you have branded that as a snooze to just wondering, he said that once he told true believers when he was working for them, he couldn’t comprehend Fuller’s presentations, I was advised to just let the words wash over you. certain sections may not make sense but then later portions of wood so he this is from a guy who worked for Buckminster Fuller. Yeah, so Steve says you just got to experience Bucky and let the experience wash over you. But he does. And here. Truth be told a couple of buches textbook thick books ended up in my discard pile during packing for the move. So he didn’t take them. Yeah, well, I can understand. And I have to add one point that was an open forum. I saw him and it was for the public to come and to talk about Earth Day. So it should have been a more of a general public kind of presentation.

Marcia Smith 17:37
I think that’s a failure to communicate,

Bob Smith 17:39
but I’ll give Bucky credit and I want to thank Steve for speaking up for RBF as he calls him, well,

Marcia Smith 17:45
how does RBF fit into Bucky? Well, his

Bob Smith 17:48
real name was Richard Buckminster Fuller. Thank you. And I guess only those who worked for him would probably know that, just for those who might not know Buckminster Fuller was an American architect, writer, designer, inventor, philosopher, and futurist. And he made the geodesic dome that was the thing that most of us remember that I remember. So thank you, Steven. Okay, I hope your coastal move from San Francisco to the East Coast went well. All right, moving on. Okay, moving

Marcia Smith 18:15
on. From Buckminster Fuller to peanuts. Of course, I’m extremely good transition. She never appeared in the Peanuts comic strip. But the little red haired girl did appear in a lot of peanuts TV specials. She was adamant. I remember her she was the object of Charlie Brown’s unrequited love. Okay. Do you know the backstory on her? No, I don’t. You know, often people think that Charlie Brown was Schultz. Right? Charles Schultz. Yes.

Bob Smith 18:44
cartoon. Maybe Charles Schultz was smitten with a girl who had red hair.

Marcia Smith 18:47
That’s exactly right. There’s no deduction that says she represents the girl who walked away and said no to his marriage proposal from Peanuts cartoon is Charles Schultz. Really? Yeah. The redheaded Donna may wold worked in the accounting department of art instruction Inc, or correspondence school where Schultz worked. They dated for three years. And despite her refusal to marry him, they remained friends their whole life. And he so

Bob Smith 19:15
it wasn’t when he was a little boy. Oh, no. Oh, he was an adult. Okay. And he

Marcia Smith 19:20
put her in there as his object of desire. That’s

Bob Smith 19:24
charming. It is charm, and they remained friends forever. Yes. That’s pretty cool. Marsha, I have a question for you on the New York City subway system. Did you ever ride the subway in New York City when you visited there I have. Okay, here’s the question. If you took all of the underground tracks in the New York City subway system and laid them end to end as a single tunnel, how long would it be?

Marcia Smith 19:48
Would it have be across the United States

Bob Smith 19:52
across parts of the United States? Okay. It would roughly be the distance from New York to Cleveland. Okay. 408 10 miles of underground track. And that’s how many miles a new cellphone project is going to link because if you take the subway today, there are pockets where you can’t get any cell phone, right? Yeah, I didn’t know that a handful of spots. And a new 10 year effort is aiming to fix that. It’s a $600 million project and it’s being paid for by a private communications infrastructure company who transit wireless. They’ve been a provider of cell phone service Wi Fi service to the subway system for years, but they’re going to do this project spend 600 million and then they’ll eventually share revenue with the city. Once their installation costs are recouped. And supporters believe extending Wi Fi through all of the tunnels could actually make the subway safer, because it would give authorities multiple sources of communication during emergencies.

Marcia Smith 20:45
That makes sense. Yeah, you would think that everywhere New York has connection apparently

Bob Smith 20:49
not even all of the overground subway stations have Wi Fi. Body. It’s different places. Okay, so how many underground stations do you think there are in New York City? The subway system because they’re going to link all those underground stations together?

Marcia Smith 21:03
How many? 24?

Bob Smith 21:05
No, let’s try this again. You got 418 miles of underground track how many stations you think are down there?

Marcia Smith 21:14
50 to 280?

Bob Smith 21:15
My

Marcia Smith 21:16
goodness. Well, yeah.

Bob Smith 21:18
And the new project will extend Wi Fi service to all those plus the above ground stations as well. I never think about that. Did you need Wi Fi underground to yeah, if you’re going to stay in touch. I’m sure people are doing work on the subway system and they lose their work between stations and so forth. Geez.

Marcia Smith 21:35
Okay, Bob. What do these four movies have in common? Okay, okay. A Nightmare on Elm Street. Goodfellas three billboards outside ebbing, Missouri. We saw them remember that? And the exorcist. What’s the question again? What do they all have in common? What do they all have in ELMS Nightmare on Elm Street Goodfellas

Bob Smith 22:01
I don’t I can’t think of a common nine commonality you’ll

Marcia Smith 22:04
be surprised Okay, they’re all based on true stories.

Bob Smith 22:07
Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Nightmare on Elm Street is based on the truth is

Marcia Smith 22:11
the most interesting of them. You can see why exorcist there was a real case of Yeah, exorcism multiple. In the billboard outside ebbing that. France. Dermot played that was a real mother. Uh huh. And Goodfellas was based on a guy who wanted to grow up to be a mafia guy, of course. But Nightmare on Elm Street that came from this is very weird. Laotian male refugees after the war. They suffered traumatic resettlement problems when they came to the US. Okay, and they suffered from horrific nightmares. And many of them died during the nightmare nightmare. Yes. And a lot of them wouldn’t even go to sleep. And then they died from sleep deprivation.

Bob Smith 23:01
Oh my god. Yeah. So

Marcia Smith 23:02
that was the basis of Nightmare on Elm Street.

Bob Smith 23:06
Well, I don’t think that’s the storyline of that movie. At all. It

Marcia Smith 23:09
does nothing to do with refugees. But that was the thought starter for that movie.

Bob Smith 23:13
Who would know that? That’s interesting. I

Marcia Smith 23:15
did, and I’ve shared it with the world. Thank

Bob Smith 23:18
you very much.

Marcia Smith 23:18
You’re welcome. Okay,

Bob Smith 23:20
here’s something that’s related to a recent incident. So I’m going to ask you this question. What is the beeswax wreck? Ever heard of that? The beeswax wreck? No. Is it a man who overdosed on honey? He’s the beeswax wreck. The crash of a truck shipping beeswax candles, or a shipwreck that may have inspired the movie Goonies.

Marcia Smith 23:43
Well, I’ll go with three. shipwreck.

Bob Smith 23:46
That’s exactly right. The movie connection is the answer because marine archaeologists in Oregon have now concluded they’ve discovered remnants of a centuries old shipwreck that they believe inspired the movie The Goonies, but actually it’s more interesting than the Goonies. The Goonies was about a treasure ship, somewhere on the coast off the coast of Oregon. What they have actually found is 20 pieces of wood in a cave off the Oregon coast in June, and it turned out to be wreckage from a Spanish galleon which crashed in 1693. It was carrying beeswax, beeswax and Chinese pottery. Well, that’s

Marcia Smith 24:21
an interesting combo. It was part of a luxury goods trade

Bob Smith 24:25
that was between Manila and Acapulco, Mexico and the ship got knocked off course. Now there’s always been thoughts that something like that happened. They couldn’t ever put the pieces together. Because for centuries, people were finding pieces of pottery shards that were Chinese and little markings on things that were from beeswax containers. They never could put it all together. But recently an Oregon local was searching for gemstones off the coast when he discovered this timber and he said, that looks like it came from a boat. So he alerted archaeologists. And there’s a group called the maritime Archaeological Society you’d like that. Oh, that sounds fascinating. And they published a very interesting article. Apparently this ship had many tons of beeswax in large blocks and candles. And then the porcelain wares were intended for the luxury markets in the new world in the late 1600s. I didn’t know that

Marcia Smith 25:16
we had a trade like that. Yeah, a little hard to believe, isn’t it to European communities

Bob Smith 25:20
in the new world? They traced the pottery the porcelain to being made sometime between 1680 and 1700. They think that in 1700, there was a major earthquake that created a tsunami and then that scattered all of the stuff around the coast. Yeah, okay. Well, that makes sense. But apparently the the Halem Indians their oral history traditions have often said that some of the crew of a surviving shipwreck lived with the coastal Indians for some time leaving behind descendants whose families continue to this day Spanish sailors up in Oregon. Is that amazing? Yes. And this whole ship, it’s called the the beeswax shipwreck go online and you’ll find fascinating stories about it.

Marcia Smith 26:01
We all do. That was intriguing, Bob. Okay. I’m going to finish up with a couple of quotes here. Okay. All right. Here’s that quote from Orson Welles. Okay. When you’re down and out, something always turns up, and it’s usually the noses of your friends.

Bob Smith 26:17
Well, that’s from personal experience.

Marcia Smith 26:19
He went through a long, hard time there for a while. And here’s from quarterback, Johnny Unitas, I could have played two or three more years. All I needed was a leg transplant.

Bob Smith 26:34
There’s a man who knows his equipment. Right leg transplant. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could get those kinds of things that would take right yeah, that made a new leg,

Marcia Smith 26:43
you know, that can make us still be a good quarterback. Oh, my.

Bob Smith 26:47
All right. Well, time is up for what we have. We want to thank Steve for his comments and invite anyone else listening. We’d love to hear from you. You can go to our website, the off ramp dot show. Go down to contact us and leave your information. You can also leave us questions that we can pose to one another as well. That’s it. I’m Bob Smith.

Marcia Smith 27:05
I’m Marcia Smith. Join us again next

Bob Smith 27:07
time when we return with more great trivia here on the off ramp.

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