What food item was launched by bribing a chef to serve it to convention guests.? And what TV family lived at 698 Sycamore Rd. in San Pueblo, CA? Hear this week’s Off Ramp trivia podcast. www.theofframp.show
Bob and Marcia shared their knowledge of food trivia and nostalgia, discussing the origins of tater tots, Jello, and other popular food items. They also explored the cultural significance of food in popular culture and personal preferences. Later, Bob, Marcia, and Speaker 2 engaged in a lively conversation, sharing interesting trivia and fun facts about various animals, royal traditions, geography, history, and popular culture. Topics included the oldest door in England, the coronation chair, and the origins of words and phrases. The conversation highlighted the importance of nostalgia in shaping personal preferences and the role of food in popular culture.
Outline
Tater tots’ origins in 1950s Miami.
- Bob and Marcia Smith discuss the origins of tater tots, which were invented by brothers Nephi and Golden Griggs in the 1950s.
TV history, gelatin, and famous hats.
- Marcia and Bob discuss their memories of TV shows from the past, including the address of the Partridge Family’s home and how Lucille Ball was forced to smoke Philip Morris cigarettes on I Love Lucy despite not being the brand’s sponsor.
- Jello was once considered a treat only for the rich in medieval Europe due to its difficult and time-consuming production process.
- Marcia Smith: Jello was once a high-class delicacy, but became more accessible during the Great Depression and World War II.
- Bob Smith: A Napoleon Bonaparte hat sold for $1.4 million in 2021, highlighting the value of famous items worn by historical figures.
Animals, history, and the Queen.
- Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith questions about animals, including the taste and smell organs on a spider’s body, the see-through body of a ghost shrimp, and the name of a tiny howler monkey.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the age of the oldest door in England, which can be found at Westminster Abbey and is estimated to be around 1050 years old.
- Bob and Marcia discuss the Queen’s stunt at the London Olympics, where she skydived with Daniel Craig in a humorous video segment.
- They also mention a Netflix show called “Indian Matchmaker” that they found funny, featuring an Indian matchmaker who helps young modern Indian kids find suitable partners against their parents’ wishes.
- Bob Smith discusses the coronation chair used in British coronations, which has been in use for almost 700 years and has a compartment underneath for the Stone of Scone.
- In 1914, suffragettes placed an explosive device near the coronation chair and stone in Westminster Abbey, causing damage to the chair.
Food, history, and trivia.
- Marcia and Bob discuss a fictional town called Argleton that was once listed on Google Maps but was later revealed to be a “trap street” created by mapmakers to prevent copyright infringement.
- Bob asks Marcia a question about the longest fence in the world, and Marcia provides an incorrect answer before Bob corrects her.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss various foods, including salisbury steak, Cobb salad, and graham crackers.
- Marcia Smith reveals that she created the Cobb salad for a benefit dinner and that Sylvester Graham invented the graham cracker as a healthy alternative to mass-produced bread.
Trivia, movie history, and adventure.
- Marcia and Bob play a trivia game on NatGeo for Kids, with Marcia answering questions correctly and Bob providing explanations for the origins of words.
- Bob Smith: Eleanor Roosevelt was the inspiration for Katharine Hepburn’s character in the movie The African Queen (1952).
- Buzz Aldrin, at 86, became the oldest person to visit both the North Pole and South Pole, setting a Guinness World Record in 2016.
- Bob Smith shares interesting facts with Marcia Smith, including that the oldest brewery in the US is in Pottsville, Pennsylvania (founded in 1829) and the highest number of times a stone has been skipped on water is 88.
- Marcia Smith is stumped by Bob’s question about how many people are buried in Westminster Abbey, with a total of over 3000 people including famous authors and scientists like Charles Dickens and Stephen Hawking.
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What foods and vendors smuggled their products into a Miami hotel and bribed a cook to serve them to convention guests
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and what TV family lived at 698 Sycamore Road in San Pueblo California
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answers to those and other questions coming up in this half hour of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith.
Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down to steer clear of crazy take a side road to sanity and get some perspective in life with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Well, Marcia, what foods inventors smuggled their product into a Miami hotel? Apparently they felt they needed to do that. They bribed cooks to serve them to convention guests. This is a food you’ve heard of you may not have enjoyed. I don’t know. You seem to have an aversion to this particular vegetable, potatoes and what’s the product?
Marcia Smith 1:10
Potato potato gratin
Bob Smith 1:12
tater tots.
Marcia Smith 1:16
Well, you know, I might eat a teeter totter too.
Bob Smith 1:19
And these are brothers F Nephi and golden Grig. They mortgaged their Idaho corn and potato farms to buy a flash freezing factory on the border in Oregon, because they knew that there was big money in french fries, but they’re machines that cut potatoes into fries. It produced a lot of starchy scraps. Yeah, so they decided to turn that waste into something that would be a secondary revenue stream for them. And with some new machines, they blanch them smooshed the leftovers together and created bite sized bits they called tater tots. Now, the thing about the Bing, that’s kind of interesting. They have their personal archive housed in the University of Utah library. So this is tatertot history. They trademark that name. And they headed to the 1954 National potato Convention, which was being held in Miami of all places, the founder of blue hotel, so they wanted to introduce their small potatoes there and they smuggled 15 pounds of tater tots into the hotels kitchen and bribed the head chef to fry them and serve them at breakfast and where they hit. They were a big hit. Oh good. So that’s how tater tots were born. It goes all the way back to the 50s
Marcia Smith 2:30
I’ve often wondered how they were born Bob Now that’s awesome. Well here what TV family Bob lived at 698 Sycamore Road in San Pueblo California.
Bob Smith 2:41
Is that the Wonder Years family?
Marcia Smith 2:43
No, I can live in California. Yeah,
Bob Smith 2:46
I think so. In the suburb somewhere.
Marcia Smith 2:48
This is farther back.
Bob Smith 2:49
Okay. Does this is this Leave It to Beaver. No. It’s after that after Leave It to Beaver. But before the
Marcia Smith 2:55
wonder years she spent now dive into your TV family history. Oh
Bob Smith 3:01
my god. What would that be? I have no idea. Wow. Okay.
Marcia Smith 3:04
I’ll tell you. That Partridge Family. Oh, no kidding. That was their address? Yes. Between they live there between 1970 and 1974 before they were moved off the broadcast station. Did you ever watched that? No, I never did. Now me I think we’re the wrong generation. It
Bob Smith 3:22
was just we were a little older than that. It seemed like kids stuff to watch you know, and here’s a
Marcia Smith 3:26
little factoid on that Shirley Jones and David Cassidy were the only ones in the whole show that actually saying all the rest of the family just mimicked they my lip synced and pretended to play their instrument so I didn’t know that yes, now you do. What
Bob Smith 3:41
I have another TV factor this goes all the way back to Lucille Ball. What did Philip Morris insist of Lucille Ball even though this did not show up on the screen in the I Love Lucy series. This shows you how very powerful sponsors were back
Marcia Smith 3:56
at she had it when she had to smoke their cigarettes. Well, she
Bob Smith 3:59
insisted she would not Oh dear Philip Morris cigarettes. They were not happy that Lucy’s favorite brand was Chesterfield. But rather than forcing her to change, they insisted Lucy keep her Chesterfields in a Philip Morris pack. That’s even though it was never shared on TV. Yeah, just in case it was ever seen in a photograph or something. Keep your cigarettes in a Philip
Marcia Smith 4:21
Morris. The compromise that was agreed to that? Yes. Wow. It was a win win. That’s funny. Yeah, cuz she was iconic even then. And so everybody watched what she did and they didn’t want their brand be smudged. That’s correct. Okay, Bob. Why was jello once considered a treat only for the rich upper classes.
Bob Smith 4:43
Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Because gelatin was considered very expensive or something resembling an unusual treat.
Marcia Smith 4:50
No, it wasn’t expensive. Hard to make. That’s it? Ah, yeah. Back in medieval Europe. That’s going back a bit right. Just creating gelatin involves a ridiculously long process and they were rarely served at the tables of everyday folks. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, unless you had staff kitchen staff. You didn’t have it, you didn’t make it. So the kitchen staff use it for various things such as preserving meats and making jellies. So the gelatin status as a high class delicacy only lasted a few centuries. In 1845 Peter Cooper, an inventor who also designed the first American steam locomotive, you probably know Yes, yes, of course you do. He also invented a gelatin recipe that you could make easily just by adding water. But he didn’t really care about it much and he didn’t do anything with it. And it wasn’t until his creation was sold to a New York cough syrup manufacturer in 1897. They added fruit flavors and branded it with its jello name. In 1897, it became jello. And by the early 20th century, Bob jello ads promoted the dessert as a low cost high society wonder.
Bob Smith 6:08
I had something about that. I was going to ask you what wiggly dessert was first sold from horse drawn wagons, and it was jello. Okay, but you know, three different times people tried to make money with it before it became successful. But trademark was sold three different times. The last time was sold for $35. Hmm. In 1902. It was sold in packets that were stuffed by hand and sold from horse drawn wagons. So you’re right. It wasn’t until like what the Great Depression?
Marcia Smith 6:35
Yeah, the Great Depression and World War Two really made it a hit for cheap. And isn’t that
Bob Smith 6:40
funny? So jealous started as a only the rich could? Absolutely.
Marcia Smith 6:44
So it was coveted? All right. What famous persons hat sold for $1.4 million in 2021. Wow.
Bob Smith 6:53
A famous hat. Yeah. How old was this hat? Does it go back hundreds of years or something? Well,
Marcia Smith 6:59
it goes back. Yeah, it does. It was a crown. No, no, it’s just a hat. Just
Bob Smith 7:04
a hat.
Marcia Smith 7:05
Yeah. Was it Abraham Lincoln’s had no his stovepipe hat that’s actually in the Smithsonian.
Bob Smith 7:11
Well, they’re probably more than one. Probably. Okay. Okay. So what’s the answer? The answer?
Marcia Smith 7:19
The chapeau of Napoleon Bonaparte. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, he wore that what’s called a bike horn hat. It was cocked on two sides. Most military guys wore a version of that. Anyway, he remained so identified with the style that the one He is believed to have worn during his successful 1807. Campaign sold for 1.4 million in September 2021. Wow. Wait
Bob Smith 7:44
till around interesting. What
Marcia Smith 7:46
do you do with that? Well, it’s just
Bob Smith 7:49
worn by somebody famous is worth more than our hats. Yeah, yeah. So you know, we recently were made grandparents. And I was exchanging some texts with our daughter in law, Daria solo V. Eva, and she showed me something had just started coming to the house. It’s called Nat Geo for kids. And she goes there’s some ideas for your podcast and a whole stump the parents section. Oh, really? I said good. I’ll spring some of these unmarshal for the next episode in credit NatGeo. And you be listening. She goes Thiele and I will be tuning in. So now here’s your chance to impress her with your knowledge Okay. of animals. Bring it out. All right. Spiders taste and smell using organs on which body part? The head, the abdomen? The legs or the eyes. Spiders taste and smell using organs on which body part your right legs very good. Okay. How is a ghost shrimp like a ghost? It has a see through body. It says boo. It lives in graveyards or it swims through seashells
Marcia Smith 8:55
see through body. Yes. You’re
Bob Smith 8:57
very good. You got two of them, right? They
Speaker 1 8:58
have to impress the two of the three. Okay. All right. And then I’ll ask you one more. All right.
Bob Smith 9:03
What’s a tiny Howler?
Marcia Smith 9:05
I have no choice. No multiple choice, tiny holder. I tell me how I’ll say
Bob Smith 9:10
a howler monkey question sometime back. This is called a tiny house.
Marcia Smith 9:14
Is it a small owl?
Bob Smith 9:16
It’s a small animal, but not an owl. Is
Marcia Smith 9:19
it a? Is it a bird a plane? No. Is it a bird? No.
Bob Smith 9:24
Okay, it’s a grasshopper mouse. Isn’t that a strange name?
Marcia Smith 9:28
Really? Yes. I never heard of that. Now. It’s five
Bob Smith 9:31
inches long. It hunts insects, lizards, birds and other mice. Even the Arizona Scorpion but here’s why it’s called a Howler. When it wants to tell other rodents to stay away. It stands up on its hind legs rears back its head and makes a high pitched yell. Which has been compared to the hell of a wolf.
Marcia Smith 9:49
No kidding. Yeah,
Bob Smith 9:50
a tiny holder I have to google that. I
Marcia Smith 9:53
want to hear that.
Bob Smith 9:53
Those are some fun things Darya sent us from Nat Geo kids the October 22 edition. I thought this was cute. They
Marcia Smith 10:00
are and Bob who doesn’t need a driver’s license or a passport to travel in England?
Bob Smith 10:05
Gotta be the queen. That’s it.
Marcia Smith 10:07
She was the only one that didn’t need a driver’s license, a driver’s license plate or a passport to travel.
Bob Smith 10:14
Although we knew she could drive because she was a mechanic. Yes. World War Two.
Marcia Smith 10:18
Yeah, she did all sorts of stuff. And she didn’t need a passport either.
Bob Smith 10:21
I got a question on England.
Marcia Smith 10:22
Okay.
Bob Smith 10:23
How old is the oldest door in England? And where can it be found? For God’s sakes?
Marcia Smith 10:28
What do you mean for God’s I don’t know. Important? Yeah. Tell me where it is.
Bob Smith 10:31
It can be found where the all that stuff took place during King Charles’s coronation. Where would that be? Is
Marcia Smith 10:37
it Westminster? Abbey?
Bob Smith 10:38
Westminster Abbey? Yeah, yeah, there is a door there that’s been there since 1050. Or something like I mean, the door has been around that long. They just recently dated it. It’s only like six feet tall. It was nine feet tall. That’s the oldest door and it still works. I mean, they still use it can still open it up and everything. oldest surviving door from 1050. That means that door was already 16 years old when William the Conqueror invaded England, from France. They can even tell what part of England it came from south eastern England, because of the way they dated it. They call it the dendrochronology. You know, it deals with the rings and so forth. So the scientific method of dating wooden objects now.
Marcia Smith 11:18
Very interesting, very curious. Speaking of the Queen, how did she stun the world? Bob in 2012? By doing what? At the London Olympics,
Bob Smith 11:29
she ran the 500 yard dash, the 50 yard dash?
Marcia Smith 11:32
I don’t know. And she did it carrying her purse
Bob Smith 11:36
was a relay race. That’s right for the lady in waiting. She handed the purse to her.
Marcia Smith 11:40
And the race was always this is funny because I went back to actually look at it was hilarious. Okay, she acted in a short video segment with Daniel Craig. Oh, that’s right. His James Bond roll. It opened up the Olympics. And there was a clip showing him picking her up at the palace and getting into a helicopter. And they both skydived other helicopter to go to the Olympics. Oh, that’s hilarious cut from the you know, the stunt person going out of the helicopter to her sitting there with her husband at the Olympics in the same dress. It was very funny. Oh,
Bob Smith 12:17
that’s funny. That’s good. Oh, hi.
Marcia Smith 12:19
It was very cute.
Bob Smith 12:20
She had a good sense of humor, didn’t
Marcia Smith 12:21
she? Yes, she did. Okay, I said time for a break.
Bob Smith 12:24
I think it’s more time for a break. Yes. I time. It’s time for a break.
Marcia Smith 12:28
Yes. And that expression we got off of Indian matchmaker. Hilarious. It’s a great series on Netflix. It’s a reality
Bob Smith 12:35
show. Yeah. on Netflix about this Indian matchmaker goes all over the world and batch makes these young modern Indian kids who their parents are insisting they need you need imagine. It’s high tide. You got very high time you got married. Oh very funny. Thanks to our daughter Chelsea for turning
Marcia Smith 12:53
that she came home and said let’s watch this and, and we binged fun.
Bob Smith 12:57
All right, now we will take a pause for a break here. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob
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and Marsha Smith.
Bob Smith 13:06
We’re back. It’s high time we got back. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We do this for the Cedarburg Public Library and it goes out on their internet radio station every weekend. We’re on all kinds of podcasts platform. So Marsha, what is the oldest piece of furniture in the United Kingdom that is still used for its original purpose has to do with royalty and
Marcia Smith 13:29
guillotine? No, no.
Bob Smith 13:32
Oldest that piece of furniture in the United Kingdom is still used for its original purpose. God was just used for the throne. It’s called the coronation chair. And it’s been used for almost 700 years at every coronation ceremony since 1309. And it was just used for King Charles the third. Oh, no kidding. So
Marcia Smith 13:54
Charlie that Nitta
Bob Smith 13:55
Yeah, and they know that their 27 kings and queens sat in that when they were crowned, including King Henry the Eighth and Elizabeth the first Elizabeth the Second and King Charles. That’s a history there. Do you ever heard of the stone of scone? That’s that’s part of the chair. It is. Well it was part of the chair originally.
Marcia Smith 14:14
It’s not a scone for breakfast. No, no, it’s
Bob Smith 14:17
not doesn’t bring up those Yes, yummy, yummy stone of scone. Now this was from the scone Abbey in Ireland and this chair. There’s a compartment underneath that chair and that stone was originally put in there. This stone is just a weird thing. It goes back in Irish history to like 500 ad why one story concerns Fergus the son of irk the king of Scots from 498 to 501. He supposedly stole it from the Irish and then Urk Yeah, yeah. And then England’s King Edward the first stole that stone in 1296 from the Scots and brought it down to Buckingham Palace and it was there till 1996 When they finally returned it with the understanding whenever there’s a coronation bring it back to London and so they brought it back and it’s in it sits underneath the chair. There’s like a compartment there.
Marcia Smith 15:01
There’s so many weird things. We’re tradition. Yeah, there are lots of weird traditions.
Bob Smith 15:06
And here’s one more thing I bet you didn’t know about the coronation chair. I never heard of this. This reminds you how violent the suffragette movement could be at one time in 1914. On June 11 suffragettes protesting for women’s rights in Great Britain placed a small explosive device near the coronation chair and stone in Westminster Abbey. And the explosion caused visible damage to the chair. Why
Marcia Smith 15:32
would think oh my god, isn’t that amazing? I think Well, women get cranky. Yes, they do. Give me the vote, baby. Okay. Okay, Bob. What town never existed, but was shown on Google Maps.
Bob Smith 15:46
Oh, really? Yeah, town that never existed. But it was shown on Google Maps. Yeah. Okay, let’s see, what would that be? Would that be some famous town from a TV show or a movie or something like that? Bedford Falls, you know, from Jimmy Stuart, and it’s a wonderful life, but it was I don’t know.
Marcia Smith 16:05
What do you think? Just the setup for your voice catalog here?
Bob Smith 16:09
Mary, Mary’s? You’re like them all. And I’ll answer them for you. All right. Oh, sorry. This
Marcia Smith 16:15
English town. It was an English town called our glutton, AR g l e t o n. Okay. It was on Google Maps until 2009. And although Google will never admit it, it was something called a trap Street. It’s a fictitious road by mapmakers to catch anyone copying their work. Oh, no. They put in England, this fake town only they didn’t do a street they did a town. The reasoning is simple as it is clever because if you made up something on your map, and it was caught on another map, they’re stealing your copyrighted stuff. He never admitted to that. But they say mistakes were made. They took it off in 2009. And it became a hilarious thing after that with people who knew about it. They had T shirts that said funny things like New York, London, Paris, argleton
Bob Smith 17:07
funny. Yeah. Okay. You know, we always like to talk about these longest, biggest, tallest, fattest. Okay, what’s the longest fence in the world? I’ll give you some choices here. Fence sport wall. What is the longest fence in the world? Marcia? That’s the question. You don’t change the question. Can
Marcia Smith 17:23
you get to answer anything? A little brass? Let
Bob Smith 17:25
me give you the potential answers. All right. What is the longest fence in the world? The border between the US and Mexico? The fence surrounding the Panama canals the dog fence of Australia or the Great Wall of China, China? No. You’re wrong. I’m sorry.
Marcia Smith 17:42
That was last week. I forgot this week. I’m alright. It’s
Bob Smith 17:45
a 3500 mile long dog fence of Australia.
Marcia Smith 17:51
There’s a dog fence.
Bob Smith 17:53
It was built in 1885 to prevent wild Dingo dogs from preying on sheep. It’s a six foot high chicken wire fence crosses the Australian desert fencing off the country southern half the fence has done more than just keep dingoes out it’s created two very different landscapes with sand dunes mounting with vegetation on the southern side of the fence. While the dingo side is cast with smaller dunes and sparser old Dingo dogs have the longest fence in the world is called the dog fence of Australia.
Marcia Smith 18:25
I’ll be doing all right. No, I’ll be doing good. That’s a good way. I’ll be dangled, what do these three foods have in common? Bob Smith, salisbury steak, Cobb salad and your favorite graham crackers.
Bob Smith 18:38
What do they have in common? All three of those things are made by Nabisco. No, no, I don’t know if they would haven’t come. They’re very different consistency. That’s
Marcia Smith 18:47
why I picked them. Yeah. Are
Bob Smith 18:49
they all from England? For instance?
Marcia Smith 18:50
I don’t think so. Salisbury steak, okay.
Bob Smith 18:53
All right. Okay.
Marcia Smith 18:54
They’re all named after the people who created Oh, of course, yes. Robert Cobb, a restaurant tour in the mid 1900s created the Cobb salad for a benefit dinner and it was a big hit. I didn’t know that. That’s right. And Sylvester Graham was a 19th century advocate for clean living kind of a dietary reformer, right. And he was twice attacked by rogue butchers after he claimed meat was sexually arousing. anywhere he created the graham cracker as a healthy alternative to mass produce bread. Yes, Sylvester Graham. And that takes us to Salsbury steak who invented salisbury steak. It was Dr. James Henry Salsbury. He was an early dietitian in the mid 1800s. And he had the idea that soldiers needed more protein and came up with an invention he called the Salsbury steak, ground beef looking like a steak Patty covering it with gravy and some potatoes and he fixed their diet tremendously by creating the Salsbury
Bob Smith 19:58
steak. Okay, remember, I used to eat a lot because when I was younger, when I met you, that was your big thing. It’s not my big thing. It
Marcia Smith 20:04
was your big thing. It
Bob Smith 20:05
was not my big thing when you met me. Marcia thinks that she’s just introduced me to all the world’s great food after my hamburger well past, it’s
Marcia Smith 20:14
my cooking ability and possibly your world travel helped. Yeah, that did improve that. Okay.
Bob Smith 20:20
Back to the NatGeo questions for kids. One. All right, one more, Marcia, and more. Okay. In which country are black cats traditionally considered lucky. The United States, India, Spain or Japan?
Marcia Smith 20:36
I’ll say Japan. You’re right. All
Bob Smith 20:39
right. Japan is where black cats are traditionally considered lucky. Well, you have you’ve done pretty well on those. And it’s interesting because that’s from a stump your parents sections of the NatGeo for Kids magazine. And it says if your parents can’t answer these questions, maybe they should go to school instead of you. So you Yeah, your grandmother answered
Marcia Smith 20:58
though. That’s right. Granny wins again.
Bob Smith 21:00
Again, that geo for kids great magazine.
Marcia Smith 21:02
Yes. Here’s a word origin for you. Why do we call a trader a turncoat? Oh,
Bob Smith 21:08
why do we call it treat? Probably because the first traitor a traitor is a person who changed the uniforms maybe in war, for instance? Is that what it was?
Marcia Smith 21:19
No, that seems to make sense. It’s close to the answer. Yeah.
Bob Smith 21:23
So did they change their coats in a diplomatic sense or legal sense or
Marcia Smith 21:30
law? It wasn’t a soldier. Here’s the story. Apparently a former Duke of Saxony found himself and his land, uncomfortably situated between the middle of a war between the French and the Saxons. So he had a reversible coat made. One side was blue for this accent and the other side was white for the French, and depending on who was currently occupying his land he wore the appropriate No kidding. It’s funny. So it’s along the lines of what you saw. He did it. He
Bob Smith 21:59
turned to Cody did a different coat. Yeah. Okay. Hang
Marcia Smith 22:02
on who was taking over his land?
Bob Smith 22:04
That’s pretty funny.
Marcia Smith 22:05
It is. Okay, I have a question for you. Yes, sir. This
Bob Smith 22:08
is about a famous movie. And a famous movie star. Who did Katharine Hepburn model her character of Rosie after in the movie, The African Queen. You know, she was the righteous woman sitting in the boat and everything and Katharine Hepburn. Yeah, Katharine Hepburn, who did she bought her character after? Was it a queen? No, but it was a current personality at the time. Gosh. And it was at the suggestion of director John Houston. He
Marcia Smith 22:36
suggested is it an actress? No. Okay. Tell
Bob Smith 22:38
me. John Houston suggested she mold her character on
Marcia Smith 22:43
Wait, was it Eleanor Roosevelt. Eleanor Roosevelt was trying to think of how she acted. Yes,
Bob Smith 22:48
of course, that movie came out in 1952. So rose, Eleanor was still very prominent. And she I think she was in the United Nations. At that point. She was named our ambassador to the United Nations. So yeah. Eleanor Roosevelt, who is the wife of Franklin Roosevelt and very famous for going around the country and allotted a lot of activism. Yeah. So they he said, Why don’t you model it like Franklin, like Eleanor Roosevelt, and that’s what she did.
Marcia Smith 23:12
Because so by law, we were talking I pictured, I pictured Eleanor Roosevelt, my mind and she had that certain gusto about her in that movie. Yeah. And certainly Eleanor had that. And you got
Bob Smith 23:24
it. I have one more question. Sure. Who was Joan Crawford’s stunt double? In the 1920s. In the movie, the taxi driver dancer. This is just because it’s such a weird thing. Now, Joan Crawford, of course, very big star in the 50s and 40s. Hasn’t Betty
Marcia Smith 23:39
Davis? No. It wasn’t even a woman
Bob Smith 23:41
her stunt double. Who was it? It was Lucas. But Abbott. It was Lou Costello. Are you kidding? Of Abbott and Costello? Yeah. How weird is that? Well, yeah, apparently what they had in common was broad shoulders. And at a distance he looked enough like her to be you’re stuck. It’s funny. Yeah, that is, I don’t know. I’m sure that Joe never wanted that to be No, I
Marcia Smith 24:02
keep that on the download. Okay. Bob, the oldest person to visit both the North Pole and South Pole by the time he was 86 was who?
Bob Smith 24:12
At the time he was 86. This a famous person? I believe. He’s still alive. Okay. It’s Buzz Aldrin. That’s
Marcia Smith 24:19
it. Yes, I read about that. That’s right. That’s pretty cool. Yes. Well, we talked about buzz too. And some other thing and we kind of mentioned he still was an adventurer. Yeah. And today he’s 93 or in 2022. He’s still alive and 93 years old. And according to the Guinness Book of Records, he set foot on the moon in 2016. And at 86. He reached the South Pole. He went to the North Pole in 1998 on a Russian nuclear icebreaker. Wow, that’s interesting. has been the adventure. Okay, Marcia,
Bob Smith 24:51
if you wanted to go to the oldest brewery in the United States, where would you go and I’ll give you choices. Boston, Massachusetts, Pottsville, Pennsylvania. near Wall Street, New York or St. Augustine, Florida. Really? Yeah, it’s now this is a brewery. It was founded in 1829. It’s still operating. I
Marcia Smith 25:09
don’t know why San Diego’s Augustine is the oldest town but I’m gonna go for Boston,
Bob Smith 25:13
Boston. No, it’s not. It’s in Pottsville, Pennsylvania who would have known that me. Yeah. Founded in 1829 by German immigrant David Gottlieb Yingling. So it’s the oldest and largest entirely American owned brewery. But it also distributes to 14 states. So it’s the fourth largest beer distributor in the country. Hmm. Who knew that?
Marcia Smith 25:34
Not me? Never heard of it. Yeah. What’s the highest number of times a stone skipping on water was recorded.
Bob Smith 25:44
I say if it can go five times it’s going along with your
Marcia Smith 25:46
record. Mine is really gets three to five. You know? Yeah. Your dad like to do? Yeah, my
Bob Smith 25:52
dad used to do that all the time. He did it with Chelsea and Benny we show them how to skip stones. Yeah, cross Lake Michigan. Yes. I don’t know Marsha. Let’s say let’s, let’s say 10.
Marcia Smith 26:01
It was 88 What the Guinness Book of World Records declares Kurt Steiner of the USA to have achieved the most consecutive skips on a stone on water at times New York, Kane, Pennsylvania in 2013. Wow. That’s pretty cool. 88 times. Okay, one
Bob Smith 26:19
more question on Westminster Abbey. Okay, do you know how many people are buried there? You know, we always we were there. People like Chaucer, Rudyard Kipling, Charles Dickens, they’re all buried there. So our scientists like Charles Darwin and Isaac Newton and Stephen Hawking, but all together more than 3000
Marcia Smith 26:36
people. That’s amazing. That’s a pretty big.
Bob Smith 26:39
That’s a pretty big indoor cemetery. There
Marcia Smith 26:41
is no say, ooh. I’m gonna wrap it up with a quote from Mark Russell. Okay. The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are composed entirely of lost airline luggage. That’s where they they gotta go somewhere.
Bob Smith 27:02
I lost two of them there. Gosh, yes. And then there’s that place down south where they sell the lost luggage that’s been Yeah. Abandoned, basically. Yeah. All right. Well, we want to remind you that if you have any last questions, you could send them to us by going to our website at the off ramp, dot show. And give me a question to stump Marcia with just like Daria did there, Daria and feel listening today to those NatGeo questions. I’m Bob Smith.
Marcia Smith 27:28
I’m Marcia Smith. Join us again
Bob Smith 27:30
next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin.
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