What future U.S. President was radioactive at one point in his life? And name the five top languages spoken in the USA. Hear The Off Ramp Trivia Podcast (Photo: Wikimedia Commons)

Bob and Marcia Smith discuss various trivia topics, including Jimmy Carter’s radioactive urine from working on a nuclear reactor cleanup in 1952, the top five languages spoken in the USA (English, Spanish, Chinese, Filipino, Vietnamese), the origins of golf and poker, elephants as rainforest gardeners, the Great Lakes, military veterans in Alaska, and the history of barber poles. They also cover the thickest ice in Antarctica, Jimmy Carter’s Spanish speeches, and the survival of populations during the Ice Age. The conversation ends with quotes on aging by Oliver Wendell Holmes, Teddy Roosevelt, and George Burns.

Outline

Jimmy Carter’s Radioactive Experience

* Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about a future US president who was literally radioactive at one point in his life.
* Marcia Smith and Bob Smith discuss clues, leading to the realization that Jimmy Carter was the president in question.
* Bob Smith explains that Jimmy Carter, a nuclear power expert with the US Navy, helped clean up the first nuclear reactor disaster in the world in 1952.
* Carter was part of a small team that practiced dismantling a mock-up of the reactor at a nearby tennis court, exposing them to high levels of radiation.
* Carter’s urine was radioactive for six months after the cleanup, but he had a family and lived almost to 100 years of age.

Top Five Languages Spoken in the USA

* Marcia Smith asks Bob Smith to name the top five languages spoken in the USA.
* Bob Smith and Marcia Smith list English and Spanish as the top two languages.
* They discuss other languages, including French, German, Chinese, and Japanese, before settling on Chinese, Filipino, and Vietnamese as the top five after English and Spanish.
* Marcia Smith notes that French, Arabic, Korean, Russian, and German follow in the rankings.
* They express surprise at the high ranking of Asian languages and the lower ranking of German.

Origins of Modern Games

* Marcia Smith and Bob Smith discuss the origins of modern games, with Marcia suggesting Chinese checkers might go back to Roman soldiers.
* Bob Smith explains that poker goes back to a game called paganica, played by Roman soldiers with a bent stick and a hard ball stuffed with feathers.
* They discuss the influence of paganica on the development of golf, which originated in Scotland in the 1400s.
* Bob Smith mentions that golf may have been influenced by stick and ball games from China and the Dutch game kolf.
* They conclude that golf originated on the links of Scotland’s coastline.

Elephants as Rainforest Gardeners

* Marcia Smith asks Bob Smith about animals considered the gardeners of the rainforest.
* Bob Smith reveals that elephants are considered the gardeners of the rainforest because they eat and excrete seeds that help new plants grow.
* They discuss interesting elephant facts, including their large brains, communication through vibrations and body language, and the ability to mourn the dead.
* Bob Smith mentions that elephants have 40,000 muscles in their trunks.
* They conclude with a quote about elephants being the “garden variety.”

Great Lakes and Military Veterans

* Marcia Smith asks Bob Smith about the biggest Great Lake and the state with the highest number of military veterans.
* Bob Smith identifies Lake Superior as the biggest Great Lake and Lake Huron as the second largest.
* They discuss the state with the highest number of military veterans, revealing that it is Alaska.
* Marcia Smith and Bob Smith express surprise at the high number of veterans in Alaska and the low number in Washington, DC.
* They speculate on why veterans might choose to live in Alaska.

Historical Trivia and Automakers

* Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about the writers who returned their Oscars in 1956.
* Marcia Smith and Bob Smith discuss the Bowery Boys comedy and the mistaken nomination for the best writers Oscar.
* They talk about the number of automakers in the USA in 1925, revealing that there were 565.
* Bob Smith explains that Scottish kings prohibited golf because it distracted people from archery practice, which was considered a national security issue.
* They discuss President Woodrow Wilson, who played nearly 1200 rounds of golf while in office.

Social Security and World Population

* Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the average Social Security check and the first person to receive a Social Security check.
* Marcia Smith reveals that Mary Fuller received the first Social Security check for $22.54 in 1940.
* They discuss the population of Tokyo, revealing that it has 37 million people.
* Bob Smith explains the significance of the barber pole, including its colors representing blood, bandages, and veins.
* They discuss the nickname “Down Easters” for residents of Maine and the thickness of ice safe to walk on.

Jimmy Carter’s Language Skills and Ice Age Survivors

* Bob Smith reveals that Jimmy Carter was one of the first presidents to deliver a full address in a foreign language, Spanish.
* They discuss the survival of people during the Ice Age, with Marcia Smith noting that populations in Africa had the best chance of surviving.
* Bob Smith and Marcia Smith talk about the discovery of fossils of ancient horses and camels in California.
* They discuss the average global temperature during the Ice Age, revealing that it was only 10 degrees cooler than today.
* Bob Smith mentions that President Eisenhower made golf popular by playing with Arnold Palmer.

Quotes on Aging

* Marcia Smith shares quotes on aging from Oliver Wendell Holmes, Teddy Roosevelt, and George Burns.
* Holmes says, “Old age is always 15 years older than I am.”
* Roosevelt states, “Old age is like everything else. To make a success of it, you’ve got to start young.”
* Burns says, “You can’t help getting older, but you don’t have to get old.”
* They conclude the show with a light-hearted discussion on aging and the importance of staying young at heart.

Bob Smith 0:00
What future US president was literally radioactive at one point in his life.

Marcia Smith 0:06
Okay, all right, and name the five top languages spoken in the USA,

Bob Smith 0:12
answers to those and other questions coming up in this half hour of the off ramp with with Bob and Marcia Smith,

welcome to the off ramp, a chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity. Well, Marcia, we often hear a presidential candidate is radioactive because they’ve said something controversial, but what US president was literally radioactive at one time in his life. Well, now here’s the clue. Okay, clues, good. This future US president helped clean up the first nuclear reactor disaster in the world,

Marcia Smith 1:10
really? Yeah, well, can’t be too far

Bob Smith 1:13
back. Exactly 1952 is the year. So he was a young man at the time.

Marcia Smith 1:18
Young man wasn’t Ike, wasn’t Eisenhower who came after him, Nixon. Wasn’t Nixon, yeah, I can’t see him doing that. Wasn’t Kennedy. No, he did other things in the Navy. This

Bob Smith 1:30
gentleman was in the Navy as well, Carter, that’s right, okay, it was Jimmy Carter at the time. He was a nuclear power expert with the US Navy. Oh, he was an engineer, yeah. And he was one of the few people in the world who was authorized to go into a damaged nuclear reactor. He was a lieutenant, and he worked with Admiral Hyman Rickover. He was selected to join an elite team to help develop the Navy’s first nuclear submarines. And when a Canadian Nuclear Reactor started melting down, oh, geez. They asked for a team to come from the US to help with the cleanup, because they they were able to stop everything, but they had to go back in there and dismantle the reactor. And there was only a small group of people in the world that knew how to do

Marcia Smith 2:13
this. Wanted to, well, no, I’m busy that day. So

Bob Smith 2:17
they actually built a mock up of the nuclear reactor at a nearby tennis court, and they would run in and run out of that thing. And they only had 90 seconds at a time. They could be in there, really 90 seconds. And they would run in there and loosen a bolt. The next guy would go in and loosen it. Then eventually they’d get that bolt out and wow, go to the next one and the next one. And that’s how they practiced. So when they were lowered down into the reactor, they knew exactly what to do, and like I said, 90 seconds was all the longer they could do it. At a time they got more radiation in their body than most people ever get in a year’s time

Marcia Smith 2:49
doing that. So how was he radioactive? For how long his

Bob Smith 2:53
urine was radioactive? For six months afterwards, they all had to have their urine monitored to see how their count was going down, and it took six months for the radioactivity to leave. He said they all joked about either getting sterile or dying early, and Well, neither one happened. He had a family and three sons, four kids all together, that’s right. And amazingly, he lived almost to 100 years of age. So as a result of the cleanup mission, that future president’s urine was radioactive for six months. Thank you

Marcia Smith 3:22
for sharing. Okay, all right. All right, Bob, there are 10 common languages spoken in the United States. Okay, all right, all right, but let’s go with just the top five. Can you name any of the top five? I know one, English, that’s right, and the second one should be easy, Spanish, that’s right. Now, what comes after those? Okay,

Bob Smith 3:42
so I would go next to French or something like that. No, that, that’s

Marcia Smith 3:47
number six. Number six.

Bob Smith 3:48
Okay, so English, so Spanish and Spanish and top two. Okay, German, no, that’s

Marcia Smith 3:54
10. Wow. I’m

Bob Smith 3:55
trying to think of, you know, another language that would make it in here that. Okay, let’s go to Chinese or Japanese or Asian language, Chinese, number three. Chinese is number three now in the US, so number four, man, you said, you said that. What was that? When I said that was

Marcia Smith 4:15
six, and German was 10. Oh,

Bob Smith 4:17
my God, all right. So let’s start up. What are they? Again,

Marcia Smith 4:20
they’re English, Spanish, Chinese. And then what are the other two of the top five, Filipino and Vietnamese? Okay,

Bob Smith 4:27
I could see those All right, based on World War Two and the Vietnam War and the refugees that came here. So again, the top five are English,

Marcia Smith 4:34
Spanish, Chinese, Filipino and Vietnamese. Wow. And that’s followed by French, Arabic, Korean, Russian and German. I would have thought German would have been higher on there, yeah, with so many people with German backgrounds, yeah, especially around here,

Bob Smith 4:50
I guess, very interesting. Yeah, that’s not what I thought. It would be the first to make sense. But the rest, I would have thought I’d been more European. And, yeah, okay, all right. Marshall. What modern game may go back to Roman soldiers?

Marcia Smith 5:04
Oh, I think there’s a lot of those. I’ll bet it’s something like Chinese checkers.

Bob Smith 5:08
No to Roman soldiers. Why would Chinese checkers go back to Roman soldiers?

Marcia Smith 5:13
They lost their marbles, didn’t they? All

Bob Smith 5:17
right, what do you think it is? I

Marcia Smith 5:18
don’t know. Poker now. It

Bob Smith 5:20
goes back to a game called paganica, a game played with a bent stick and a hard ball stuffed with feathers. They think that might have been the predecessor to golf. Yeah, it was invented by Roman soldiers as a way to relieve the monotony of camp life, and it’s believed that a version of paganica, I believe that’s how they pronounced it, although nobody from back then is around to tell me I am wrong. It’s spelled P, A, G, A, N, I, C, A. It’s believed that a version of paganica was introduced to Scotland when the Roman emperor Septimius Severus invaded the country in 208 ad, and of course, Scotland, we know is where you know golf the modern day golf began. Golf may also have been influenced by stick and ball games from China, chi, one hit ball and the Dutch game, cough, C, O, L, F, although that was an indoor game with rubber balls and heavy clubs. Cough, Clay. Cough, inside. Okay. And then the modern game, as we know it, originated on the links those long grassy sand dunes of Scotland’s coastline in the 1400s

Marcia Smith 6:24
All right, Bob, what animals are considered the gardeners of the rainforest,

Speaker 1 6:30
the gardeners of the rain forest? What animals are considered the gardeners of the rainforest? Okay? I’m gonna think of something with with paws or hands. I’m gonna go with monkeys, some kind of monkeys, or apes? Yeah, this

Marcia Smith 6:43
wouldn’t come to mind. I’m sure elephants, elephants, I didn’t even know they were in the rain forest. Wow. They eat up to 300 pounds of food and drink up to 40 gallons of water every day. Bob and almost half of that grass leaves fruits and roots leave their bodies undigested. Wow. This allows seeds to germinate and new plants to take root wherever those big guys make their deposit,

Bob Smith 7:07
the deposit, I like the way it’s the deposit. That’s

Marcia Smith 7:11
my version of what it says. Because of this, elephants are considered the gardeners of the rainforest. And just a few quick elephant factoids, there’s a big documentary coming up on elephants soon, anyway, but National Geographic, yeah, okay, correct? So here’s some fascinating factoids. They have the largest brain of any mammal. They communicate through vibrations and body language vibrations. I didn’t know that. Me either. Okay. They mourn the dead and often try to bury the corpse and often visit the grave site, and they have 40,000 muscles in their trunk.

Bob Smith 7:46
Wow, 40,000 muscles.

Marcia Smith 7:49
Yeah, that’s all from USA Today. Earth Day section. That is a lot of muscles. Isn’t that something that’s they do a lot with that trunk? So this is your quote, garden

Bob Smith 7:58
variety

Marcia Smith 8:00
elephant. Yes, right. Next question, please.

Speaker 1 8:03
Okay, you talking about deposits there, God’s big deposits of fresh water in the world. Are the Great Lakes? Yeah, all right. Now, you know what the biggest great lake is superior, that’s right. So what is the second largest great lake? I have choices for you? Lake Ontario, Lake Huron, Lake Michigan. Which of those is the second largest great lake?

Marcia Smith 8:27
I’ll say, I’ll say, I don’t think it’s Michigan. I think that’s three I’ll say, Huron.

Speaker 1 8:33
Lake Huron. It’s right. Yes, it’s the second largest lake of the Great Lakes, behind Lake Superior. It’s 206 miles long, 183 miles wide at its widest point, and a surface area of just over 23,000 square miles. It also has an average depth of 195 feet, but it plunges to a maximum depth of 750 feet. Which Lake? Lake Huron, Okay,

Marcia Smith 8:59
gotcha All right, Bob, so here’s a couple of quickies. What state has the highest number of military veterans living in it? Okay,

Speaker 1 9:08
the state with the highest number of military veterans? I’m gonna go with a southern state, because a lot of people in the military, they’re stationed there, and then they end up there, I will say either Texas or Florida. Oh, very

Marcia Smith 9:21
good. You’re absolutely wrong. Oh, no, total different direction. Oh, really, Alaska. Really. Who would have thought there’s

Bob Smith 9:29
more veterans in Alaska than anywhere else? By far, I had no idea.

Marcia Smith 9:34
Did I 11% of veterans live in Alaska? Wow, and that’s followed by Virginia, Montana and Wyoming. Well,

Bob Smith 9:41
boy, was I right on my Florida and Texas,

Marcia Smith 9:45
yeah, and those are foul, like I said, Virginia, Montana and Wyoming, and they’re all in the 9% range. So Alaska is way ahead of all those. What area has the lowest number of veterans? See?

Bob Smith 9:57
I would say Alaska, because that’s cold. But I’m wrong. Oh, you were wrong. So I will say, wow. Alaska, I’ll say Maine, the

Marcia Smith 10:05
lowest numbers, yeah. Washington, DC,

Bob Smith 10:09
no kidding, yeah. I

Marcia Smith 10:10
wanted to guess that one

Bob Smith 10:11
lowest numbers of veterans, yeah. So you’d think there’d be a lot of people who had been in the military, and then, you know, maybe worked in Congress or worked for those lobbying groups that would stay there.

Marcia Smith 10:21
It was like 2% or something like that. Wow. But yeah, so 11% in Alaska. Why would you get out of the Army, or, you know, after the war, and say, Gee, I think I’ll go live in Alaska, you know what? Probably because you just want to get away from it. All could be, could be, probably it. Okay. Bob,

Bob Smith 10:39
okay. I have an interesting little question for you here, in 1956 the writers for a film, high society, Oh, I like that. One gave back their Oscars. Why? Really, was

Marcia Smith 10:52
it a political thing?

Bob Smith 10:53
It’s interesting. Was

Marcia Smith 10:55
it? Was it a 56 I didn’t you know 1956 remember,

Bob Smith 10:59
we had the big thing a couple years ago when the wrong winner was named for the canopy award. Oh, the best picture they had that. Then same thing here. That’s funny, yeah, the writers for the Bowery boys comedy were nominated for the best writers Oscar in 1956 apparently it was a mistake. At least the writers felt so the Bowery boys had released a movie entitled high society, and the writers withdrew their names from the nomination when they felt they were probably mistaken for the Grace Kelly Bing Crosby movie high society. That’s funny at the same time.

Marcia Smith 11:34
That’s very good. Yeah, that’s That’s great. So

Bob Smith 11:37
not too many people will withdraw their winnings, you know, but these guys said, No, I don’t think they’re thinking of us for the Bowery boys. Isn’t that funny?

Marcia Smith 11:46
Well, you know, there are three major automakers in the US today, you got GM Ford and Chrysler, and a handful of smaller ones like Tesla and DeLorean. DeLorean is still around. I

Bob Smith 11:59
didn’t know that. I

Marcia Smith 11:59
had to look that up to double check. But wow, indeed it is. It doesn’t turn out a lot of them. But how many automakers were here in the United States in 1925

Bob Smith 12:08
Wow, there were a lot, I think, because that was still before all the big consolidations took place. So I bet there’s probably close to 100 different automakers in the United States.

Marcia Smith 12:20
No. How many? 5656

Speaker 1 12:23
but still, a lot more than three or four. Yeah, yeah. All right. All right. Marcia, I have some more facts on golf. Uh huh. Why did Scottish kings prohibit the game, ah, up until 1502, we may have mentioned this once earlier. Why did Scottish kings prohibit the game of golf. I

Marcia Smith 12:41
don’t recall that at all. Well,

Bob Smith 12:43
it had started in their country, and it got so impressive and so fun

Marcia Smith 12:49
that nobody went to work anymore. People

Bob Smith 12:51
didn’t go to archery practice, and that was basically national security problem there. Really, yes, yes, that’s right, that’s archery. Yes. Wow, isn’t that interesting? Yes. Now on those links, those Sandy links, see, back in that time, that was open land for anybody to go to. So people started playing this game on this sandy links, you know, out there. And everybody was doing it. Everybody was doing it. And finally, the Scottish kings decided this is dangerous. Too many men are being distracted from archery practice, so they they banned it, and then two years after they lifted the band, King James the fourth of Scotland played the first recorded golf match while staying at Falkland Palace near St Andrews. Now, like I said originally, that link land was public land, anybody could conceivably play, yeah. Well, starting in 1754 access to the land began to be controlled by the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St Andrews. So that was the beginning of, basically, golf only being played by the elite for a long, long time. Oh, really. Okay, yeah, they kept it as the game of kings. It was known for a long time. And nobody could play on the links unless they were royalty or, you know, nobleman, all right. And one more question, what President may have played more rounds of golf than any other. Eisenhower,

Marcia Smith 14:10
I would have thought that too. But no. Okay, let

Bob Smith 14:14
me take it before Eisenhower, okay, Was

Marcia Smith 14:16
it Truman? No,

Bob Smith 14:17
this was around 1910 1918, I know now. Okay, Woodrow Wilson, he played nearly 1200 that’s 1200 rounds of golf while President. He loved the game so much he had golf balls painted black so he could play it in the snow. Really.

Marcia Smith 14:35
Yes. All right. Okay. Bob, today, Social Security checks mailed out every month. Average is almost $1,700

Bob Smith 14:44
1700 a month. Yes, okay, but Mary Fuller,

Marcia Smith 14:47
age 65 was the first person to receive a social security check, really, yes, back in 1940 how much was her first check for?

Bob Smith 14:58
That’s if it’s 17. $100 now, yeah, I’m gonna take a 10th of that. Okay, all right, I’m gonna say $170

Marcia Smith 15:05
yeah, that’s, that’s a good guess, $22.54

Bob Smith 15:10
Oh, my goodness. Now that’s what we’re talking about. There’s the value of money changing. Yeah, the value of money has changed that much. And she

Marcia Smith 15:17
got that at 65 and Ida may went on to live to be 100 Wow. And so when she died, she had received a total of $20,000 in Social Security benefits, and

Bob Smith 15:29
that’s about the average for most people in a year, in a year, 21,022 her whole life. Yeah. Wow. Well, as we said, the value of money. Money changes in in value over time. So you know, it probably reflects. Well, here’s what we think is the average $22 check. $22 don’t spend it all in one place. 1940

Marcia Smith 15:51
Can you change? And that

Bob Smith 15:53
was still in the Great Depression, tail end of the Great Depression. Okay, time for a break. That sounds good. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We’ll be back in just a moment. We’re back. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We do this every week for the Cedarburg Public Library, Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and their CPL radio, internet radio station. And then we put it on podcast platforms, and it goes all over the world. Well, speaking of the world, Marcia indeed, what is the biggest city in the world by population these days? Okay, how many people live there?

Marcia Smith 16:26
I’ll say Hong Kong.

Bob Smith 16:29
No, not Hong Kong.

Marcia Smith 16:31
Is it? It’s Asian, isn’t it?

Bob Smith 16:32
It’s Asian.

Marcia Smith 16:34
It’s Asian. It’s uh Beijing. No,

Bob Smith 16:38
not China,

Marcia Smith 16:38
not China,

Bob Smith 16:39
not China, not India. Tell me it’s the Land of the Rising Sun. For people in China, they see the sun rising over this island. Ah, what would that be?

Marcia Smith 16:49
That would be Japan?

Oh, of course, yeah, Japan. Okay. And I thought I was trying to think of a city. Well,

Bob Smith 16:56
what’s the biggest city in Japan? Tokyo?

Marcia Smith 16:57
Yes,

Bob Smith 16:58
Tokyo. And how many people live in Tokyo these days? Well

Marcia Smith 17:02
more than a few million. How many? I’ll say 12 million.

Bob Smith 17:06
12 million. That sounds like a good sized city,

Marcia Smith 17:09
but no 15, no less, no

Bob Smith 17:11
more.

Marcia Smith 17:12
18,

Bob Smith 17:13
no more than that.

Marcia Smith 17:14
20 more than that. Oh, my

Bob Smith 17:16
god, yeah. 37 million people, Oh, my God, live in the Tokyo metropolitan area in Japan, the main island of Honshu, accounts for a quarter of Japan’s total population at one city. Another large population is located in the city of Osaka, which is number 10 in the world ranking. That has a population of 20 million people, really, Sokka, yeah, oh my so in just two Japanese cities, you got almost 57 million people. That’s just amazing. It’s

Marcia Smith 17:48
hard to fathom. Yeah. All right, Bob, why is a Barbara pole red, white and blue? That

Bob Smith 17:55
has to do with the ancient history of barbers being surgeons. And so the poll was out there to show blood. This is where blood is taken from you, or whatever, blood letting bloodletting. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 18:10
they were blood letters. And you know what they did prior to the barber pole? Barbers would place little bowls of blood in their window. Oh, my God, to advertise their blood letting capabilities. Wow, yeah, but it was finally prohibited by 1307. Anyway, hence, the barber’s pole was born. So the white in the red barber pole is bandages. Oh, okay, all right. And then they in America, you’ll notice that barber poles also have the color blue in addition to the red and white it might represent either the veins in your arms and body, okay, or patriotic red, white and blue. And priests and men of medicine and barbers are the earliest recorded examples of barbers and were highly revered priests were barbers too? Yeah, oh, yeah. The first barbering services were performed by Egyptians in 5000

Bob Smith 19:06
BC. Now, were they barbers then? Or were they blood letters? No,

Marcia Smith 19:10
no. They had instruments to cut your hair made of oyster shells or sharpened Flint. Okay, and they were highly respected Egyptians. Well,

Bob Smith 19:18
I would imagine, because if they were shaving people. That had to be a very big skill if you’re using Flints or shells, right? Yeah, all right. Okay, so the barber shop pole blood, bandages and veins, yeah, that’s what the red, white and blue stands for, good lord. And when we say blood letting, we’re meaning bleeding people out, because that was the way to get rid of disease. They thought years ago. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 19:43
they didn’t know how to cure you. So just, let’s get that nasty blood out. And that’s

Bob Smith 19:47
one of the reasons George Washington supposedly died because he bled out too much blood when he was sick. Oh, geez,

Marcia Smith 19:52
don’t overdo it.

Bob Smith 19:54
I might lose the father of your country. Oh, my God, okay, Marcia, what state’s residents are sick? Sometimes called down Easters. You’ve heard of nor’easters, like northeast,

Marcia Smith 20:06
yeah, yeah. Down Easters that would be people around, I don’t know Myrtle Beach.

Bob Smith 20:11
That would make sense to me. I would think it’d be in the south down Easter, right? Yeah. But down Easter is a nickname for someone who’s living in Maine. What? Yeah, there’s even an Amtrak route of the same name that begins in Brunswick and ends up in Boston, and both are named for the pine tree state’s down east region. Sailors are believed to have coined that term sometime in the late 18th century, when shipping goods to and from New England, when they were heading east, they would also have pushed downwind by strong gusts at their back, so downwind, down. Easter, okay,

Marcia Smith 20:44
Bob, what is the thickest ice recorded so far?

Bob Smith 20:49
It seems to me, somebody told me at one point that ice was a mile or two miles thick, maybe at the North Pole or the South Pole. Is that true?

Marcia Smith 20:59
Well, how many feet in a mile. 5280 feet. Oh, that’s my guy. Yes, it’s more than that, more than a mile or two. It’s in Antarctica. 16,066

Bob Smith 21:13
feet, three miles. Yeah, so I was close. Yes,

Marcia Smith 21:15
sure, honey, some of the ice sheet, some of the ice sheet that’s melting right now is 34 million years old. Can you believe that? Wow, Antarctica is 90% of the world’s ice Did you know that? No, I did not 90 and holds 70% of the world’s fresh water. So

Bob Smith 21:35
you could have ice water down there.

Marcia Smith 21:37
And that contradicts something you were saying before about fresh water, you know, one of the big lakes, no, this is where the most fresh water is nice in Antarctica, wow, I

Bob Smith 21:48
didn’t know that. You would have thought that would have been salty ice too, you know,

Marcia Smith 21:52
yeah. Okay. How thick Do you think ice has to be? This is something we talk about here in Wisconsin. How thick does it have to be to walk on?

Bob Smith 22:02
How thick does it need to be to walk on? Yeah, for me, I would like it to be a foot thick, but I know maybe it’s not that thick. No, dear, six inch. Four.

Marcia Smith 22:12
Four inches, yeah, yeah. And I didn’t know this clear blue or black guys is the strongest. So if you’re going out there and it seems thick and it’s clear blue or black,

Bob Smith 22:24
you’re okay take a walk. It’s either that or it’s very deep water. So it depends on if you have your glasses on. Yeah, I thought it was ice. Yeah, it was black. Almost

Marcia Smith 22:34
everybody in this state knows somebody that went through the ice right

Bob Smith 22:38
in a car, yeah, or truck or something, yeah? Okay, Marcia, I’m gonna go back to Jimmy Carter. Did you know he was one of the first presidents ever to deliver a full address in a foreign language? Really, Spanish? Yeah, I didn’t know he delivered a speech all in Spanish after the passage of the Panama Canal treaties. Wow, that’s impressive. He also made in Spanish a live, uncensored television speech in Havana in 2002 to the Cuban people. I’d never realized he did that, and he criticized aspects of Cuba socialist system while he was speaking in Havana in Spanish. Wow. Mister Fidel Castro, Ah,

Marcia Smith 23:20
okay, wow, I’ll bet. All right, I’d never thought about this, Bob, did any people survive the Ice Age? Hmm,

Bob Smith 23:29
yeah, I’d say yes. I’d say yes, because the Ice Age didn’t necessarily cover the entire continents. There were people that were left unscathed. I would assume,

Marcia Smith 23:39
yeah, during the Ice Age, some populations remained in Africa, and they had the best chance of surviving because it wasn’t below freezing there, although it wasn’t a piece of cake either. And DNA tells us that the population of the world then plummeted from 10,000 to around 600 Wow, yeah, really, yeah, we were a highly endangered species and almost went extinct during the Ice Age.

Speaker 1 24:06
Oh my goodness, I had no idea. Yeah. Okay, fossils are fascinating, aren’t they? Yeah, you know you and I were talking the other night, and I was looking at pictures that we took at the tar pits in Los Angeles. They still find dinosaur Mastodon bones and everything, yeah, and you and I were finding it interesting that they found horses there and they found fossils of camels. That just blows my mind, camels and horses,

Marcia Smith 24:32
ancient horses. Oh, that I can believe, but camels walking around Los Angeles is just hard for me to fab.

Bob Smith 24:37
These are 1000s to millions of years ago, but four different species of ancient horses have been found in parts of California. Wow, amazing. I

Marcia Smith 24:45
got a quickie here, back to the Ice Age. What do you think was the average global temperature during the Ice Age?

Bob Smith 24:52
Now, is this in Fahrenheit? Yes, okay, the average temperature in Fahrenheit during the Ice Age?

Marcia Smith 24:58
Yes. This is a. According to a study at the University of Michigan, okay,

Bob Smith 25:02
I’m gonna say 10 below zero is the average temperature. I

Marcia Smith 25:08
know I would have said the same thing, 46 degrees. What? Yeah, Fahrenheit, that’s the average. Meaning slot was lower and some was higher. So

Bob Smith 25:17
it was, see, I always think of it being frozen. Well, it was in, you know,

Marcia Smith 25:21
a lot of parts of the world, okay, some were 50 but most were probably below 30 degrees Fahrenheit. But

Bob Smith 25:27
the average temperature you said was 4746

Marcia Smith 25:30
Yeah, 57 is the average global temperature today.

Bob Smith 25:34
You’re kidding? No, the Ice Age is only 10 degrees cooler than today. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 25:38
yeah. I know. Would University of Michigan lie? They did a whole Ice Age study. Big parts of the world were frozen. Okay, all right, okay,

Bob Smith 25:48
we were talking about golf. What President popularized golf, making it seem more accessible. You named him early on. When I said, who played the most rounds of golf, you said,

Marcia Smith 25:58
Eisenhower. Okay, that’s the guy, and nobody thought of him as elitist. No,

Bob Smith 26:03
that’s because he was the four star general. He was a GI for all the GIs who served in World War Two. So he was wildly popular, and he loved golf so much, so he installed a putting green outside the Oval Office in 1954 and at first, the media criticized him for playing a rich man’s game. But that changed after Arnold Palmer became his regular golfing partner. Oh, wow. He played a lot of golf with him. So the pictures of the sports hero playing together with the GIS general that made golf popular and attractive to millions, millions of men, for sure. Yeah, because there’s a there’s Ike, he’s out on the golf course. I’ll try that game too.

Marcia Smith 26:41
Arnie and Ike. I’m gonna finish up with quotes on getting older, okay? Oliver Wendell Holmes, old age is always 15 years older than I am. That’s way I look at it, too. Teddy Roosevelt, okay, old age is like everything else. To make a success of it. You’ve got to start young. There you go. And the last quote is from some guy. I’m looking at his picture on the wall here, George Burns. Oh

Bob Smith 27:09
yeah, George Burns. He

Marcia Smith 27:11
said, You can’t help getting older, but you don’t have to get old. No,

Bob Smith 27:15
you don’t. And he never did. Now, he did, never did. He always seemed young. Yes, all right, those are good quotes and good thoughts as we all take more steps toward the grave. Oh, I’m sorry. Well, it’s true. Okay, I’m not going okay as we all back away from the grave. Well, that’s it for today. I’m Bob Smith. I’m Marcia Smith, join us again next time when we return with another half hour of fun facts and trivia here on

Unknown Speaker 27:46
the off ramp.

Bob Smith 27:50
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