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181 Super Smart Trivia – What is the origin of the Mafia kiss of death? And where is the only state capital dome made of wood. And what Hear the Off Ramp podcast. (Photo: Nick Youngson CC BY-SA)

This episode of The Off Ramp podcast, hosted by Bob and Marcia Smith, offers an engaging mix of fascinating trivia questions and answers. The show covers a wide range of topics, including state capitals, geographical facts, historical events, and cultural celebrations. The hosts present intriguing information about the wooden dome of a U.S. state capitol, the journey of a water droplet through Lake Superior, and the moon’s distance from Earth. A significant portion of the episode focuses on the history and significance of Cinco de Mayo, clarifying common misconceptions about this Mexican celebration. The show concludes with an invitation for listeners to contribute questions or messages through their website.

Outline

Introduction

  • The hosts welcome listeners to “The Off Ramp” podcast.
  • They describe the show as a chance to slow down and enjoy fun trivia.

 

State Capitol with a wooden dome.

  • Bob and Marcia discuss the only U.S. State Capitol with a wooden dome.
  • Maryland’s dome was built in 1788 when the country only had 13 states.
  • It was constructed of timber and built like a ship with no metal nails.

 

Mafia Kiss of death from the Godfather

  • Bob and Marcia discuss where the kiss of death in the movie Godfather originated.
  • Marcia explains It comes from the Bible’s New Testament.
  • It is related to the kiss Judas gave to Jesus Christ.

 

Tallest building in the world designed by a woman.

  • Bob asks Marcia in what city is the tallest building in the world designed by a woman.
  • The answer is Chicago, where the world’s first skyscraper – the Home Insurance building – was erected in 1885.
  • The building is the 1,191 foot tall Vista tower, known as The Residences at the St Regis.
  • It was Jeannie Gang

 

Lake Superior Water Movement

  • Marcia asks Bob how long it takes a drop of water to travel through Lake Superior.
  • Bob guesses a month and a half, but Marcia reports it takes 204 years.

Lake Michigan takes 62 years. Lake Huron, 21 years, and Lake Erie, three years.

 

Rock music

  • Bob asks Marica what role American song writer Carol King played in the British Invasion bands in the mid 1960s.
  • The answer, she wrote the hit song, I’m Into Something Good, by Herman’s Hermits.

 

Cinco de Mayo

  • The hosts address the misconception that Cinco de Mayo is Mexico’s Independence Day.
    • They clarify that Mexico’s actual Independence Day is in September.
    • Historical Context – Mexico declared independence from Spain in 1821.
    • In 1861, Mexico announced it would not pay its debts, leading to international intervention.

 

Battle of Puebla

  • The battle took place in 1862 at Puebla.
    • 4,000 Mexican soldiers defeated 8,000 French troops.
    • This victory is what Cinco de Mayo actually celebrates.
    • Cultural Significance – Cinco de Mayo stimulates more beer sales than the Super Bowl, according to some sources.

 

Additional Trivia

 

  • Bob and Marcia discuss the origin of the terms War Hawks and Doves
  • The show concludes with an invitation for Listener Participation
  • The hosts encourage listeners to contribute to the show.
  • They provide instructions to visit the website show and leave messages or questions.

 

 

Bob Smith 00:00
Where is the only state capitol dome made of wood? Oh, really, yes.

Marcia Smith 00:07
And what’s the origin of the mafia? Kiss of Death?

Bob Smith 00:12
Ooh, answers to those and other questions coming up in this half hour of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. You Music. Welcome to the off ramp. A chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with some fun trivia. Well, Marcia, did you realize that there is a US state capitol whose dome is made of wood? No,

Marcia Smith 00:52
I didn’t. Is it?

Bob Smith 00:53
Let me give you a clue. It’s one of the oldest state capitol domes in existence, believe it or not, trying to think of the early capital. Well, I can give you names of states choices. Give me choices, okay? Kentucky, Maryland, Illinois or Oklahoma.

Marcia Smith 01:10
No, Oklahoma, I’ll say

Bob Smith 01:15
just because it’s musical, yes, well, the answer is no, right? All right, so it leaves Maryland, Illinois or Kentucky? Illinois, no,

Marcia Smith 01:23
Kentucky, no. Oh, yes. Off the top of my head, Maryland, you’re

Bob Smith 01:28
right. Marcia, it’s amazing how you figured that out

Marcia Smith 01:31
deductive reasoning. Domes

Bob Smith 01:33
are generally synonymous with our state capitol buildings. Not everyone has one. Maryland is the only one that’s made of wood. Now they’ve got state domes made of zinc, made of concrete, made of brick and concrete and terra cotta. Domes are found atop the buildings in Kentucky and Pennsylvania. But Maryland’s dome was built way back in 1788 when the country only had 13 states, and it’s still there. It was constructed of timber and built like a ship with no metal nails used in its construction. And to this day, it’s held together by wooden pegs reinforced by iron straps forged by an Annapolis Iron Monger, monger. Yeah, so there you go. It’s in Maryland. Now the newest State House, dome belongs to one of the states you mentioned? Oh, Oklahoma, yes, their dome was added in 2002

Marcia Smith 02:27
okay, sorry. Let me get to mine. Now, you know what the mafia kiss of death is in all the Godfather movies. You know, Marlon Brando Saunders up to you and gives you a big smooch on the chain, big smooch on both sides, I think, forcefully, yeah. And then you’re gone, you’re you know, and then they have this big look in their eyes the recipient, oh my god,

Bob Smith 02:48
drag him away,

Marcia Smith 02:50
and it’s over, and that’s it. So, where did that charming custom come from? Oh,

Bob Smith 02:54
how charming. Where did the kiss of death come from?

Marcia Smith 02:58
It comes from the Bible. No kidding. Yeah, it’s the New Testament, and it’s related to the kiss Judas gave to Jesus Christ. Oh, no kidding, while he was betraying him to the authorities. Oh, dear, didn’t he point out which guy was Jesus by kissing him? Yes, yes. Oh my goodness, that’s where, you know,

Bob Smith 03:16
that’s where the inspiration for the mafia to do that, right? See, they’re

Marcia Smith 03:20
very religious. I’m gonna

Bob Smith 03:21
betray you with a kiss, just like our Lord and Savior. Oh, my God, help me. Oh god, okay. Marcia, we know we have skyscrapers all over the world. We know that. Bob, well, most of us know that we have skyscrapers all over the world. Maybe you don’t, but in what city is the tallest building designed by a woman. Okay,

Marcia Smith 03:42
in what city are we talking America? Well, I’m

Bob Smith 03:45
going to give you clues. Oh, thank you. London, England, Chicago, Illinois, Toronto, Canada, or Stockholm, Sweden,

Marcia Smith 03:55
I’ll say, I’ll say Stockholm. Aha. And

Bob Smith 03:58
why would you say that?

Marcia Smith 03:59
I don’t know they seem enlightened a bit. Okay,

Bob Smith 04:03
well, you wrong. Okay, so where is it? It’s not in stock, okay, tell me. Is either in London, Chicago or Toronto, Chicago. It is in Chicago, according to travel trivia.com Chicago, of course, is where the skyscraper was born. That started with the Home Insurance building back in 1885 and it’s where the Sears Roebuck company built the Sears Tower, later the Willis Tower, which was the tallest building in the world from 73 to 1998 well today, it’s also where you’ll find the bears the 1191 foot tall Vista tower, also known as The Residences at the St Regis in Chicago. That’s the world’s tallest building, designed by a female architect. Her name is Jeannie, or Jean gang. She’s responsible for it. And interestingly, there’s another building. It’s right next to, and she designed it too. So she designed both the world’s tallest and second tallest buildings designed by a woman.

Marcia Smith 04:58
You know what I wish for? Bob. What’s that the day when we don’t have to point out the first African American, the first woman, I mean, when it’s just is, you know? I mean, we still do that. We can make that

Bob Smith 05:10
day now and then, nobody will pay attention to anything. But no, I think it’s good to celebrate. Well,

Marcia Smith 05:14
how long? How many years? I mean, shouldn’t it all be common enough now? Okay, I’ll move on, Bob, how long? And this, you probably pondered this question this morning. How long does it take a drop of water to travel through Lake Superior to the ocean?

Bob Smith 05:29
Wow, from Lake Superior to the ocean. So is it going through the it’s going through Lake Superior, all the Great Lakes, and then all the St Lawrence Seaway and goes out east. That’s that’s the way I was thinking. Okay, so I would say that takes a month and a half. Is it 204 years? Bob, just like I thought, 204 years. Well, how wrong can you be? Wait a minute, that drop of water would be evaporated and recreated many, many times in

Marcia Smith 05:54
the water. Lake Superior takes 204 years. Because why it is a darn big lake, isn’t it? Bob, well, yeah, yeah. Lake Michigan, it takes 62 years. Oh, geez. Lake Huron, 21 years, and Lake Erie, three years. Yeah.

Bob Smith 06:09
Let’s see the evidence for this one. It’s

Marcia Smith 06:10
crazy that it’s that long. Hmm, ponder that.

Bob Smith 06:14
Okay, all right, I’m pondering it. When will we ever come to a day when we don’t, well, we don’t have to say which lake are you? Which Lake is the one that takes the longest for the water too? Yeah. Okay. Marcia, music question. Carole King, yeah, great music, composer of pop songs. We’ve mentioned her numerous times over the years. She’s a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. What did she have to do with the British invasion? Remember all those bands that came over back in the

Marcia Smith 06:43
I bet she wrote some of those songs. I bet she wrote some of those hermit hermits or something. Well,

Bob Smith 06:48
she did write a song for Herman’s Hermits. That’s the answer. What song I know things? What song was it

Marcia Smith 06:53
I know? The only song I know. I didn’t care for them, but I’m telling you now,

Bob Smith 06:57
uh huh, that’s not it. That was Freddie and the Dreamers. Oh yeah, no,

Marcia Smith 07:01
I don’t know what Herman’s saying.

Bob Smith 07:02
She wrote, I’m into something good. Something tells me I’m into something good.

Marcia Smith 07:08
Bob, since we’re singing, reminds me of Gordon Lightfoot, who recently passed, yes, yes. And what was his famous song, the Edmund Fitzgerald. Oh, yes. Oh, well done song. It was very well done. Yes. Anyway, my question is, how high were the waves that sunk the Fitzgerald? I believe they were 20 feet. Yeah, well, you’re close, Bob, it’s 23 feet. Wow. And the highest ever recorded in Lake Superior was 29 feet back in 2017 that’s

Bob Smith 07:37
the you know, the wave coming across your boat. So what chance is there of surviving that? If that hits you, in many cases, that’s just going to push the boat over, it’s going to flip it right over, or snap it in half, as it did the Edmund Fitzgerald 29 feet. That’s just amazing. Yeah, that’s scary as hell. I can’t imagine seeing something like that. That would the fear of God. And yeah,

Marcia Smith 07:59
that was recorded just north of Marquet right outside my window, where I live for a couple of years. But yeah, 29 feet that lake Bob is home to 350 sunken ships.

Bob Smith 08:11
It’s amazing. Yeah, going back to two or 300 years ago,

Marcia Smith 08:14
it’s over 1300 feet deep in places.

Bob Smith 08:17
Yeah, can I tell you something? Yeah, my favorite line in that song I heard recently. They were playing some of his songs and analyzing that one, and they just played the passage where the cook comes up and says, fellas, it’s too rough to feed you. And then a little later, he comes back and says, fellas, it’s been good to know you. Oh, geez, yeah,

Marcia Smith 08:34
that was in his song. Isn’t

Bob Smith 08:36
that a great line, though? Yeah.

Marcia Smith 08:38
Oh my god, the

Bob Smith 08:38
cook must have been doing it was, it was time for dinner time, and he couldn’t serve them.

Marcia Smith 08:42
What a great metaphor for we’re about to all check out. He

Bob Smith 08:45
was really more of a folk song writer in many ways. Yes, okay,

Marcia Smith 08:49
do you know I used to barbecue on Lake Superior,

Bob Smith 08:53
really, in 20 foot

Marcia Smith 08:54
waves, frozen waves. Yeah, yeah. That was a bizarre thing living in that area. I’ll tell you that.

08:59
Okay, another history question. This comes from the same period I talked about a moment ago. Okay, okay, in 1966 there was a duo known as Peter and Gordon. Yeah, you’ve heard of Peter and Gordon. I remember and Peter Asher, who later became a famous record producer for who? What female singer did he produce? Hula Clark, no

Marcia Smith 09:20
Leslie Gore,

09:21
all of Linda Ronstadt, big record, really, yeah, she’s very cool. But Peter and Gordon, they had a hit record with the song, woman. Woman, do you love me? Okay, Bernard Webb was credited as the composer of that tune, but Bernard Webb was really another very famous songwriter. Who was he? Bernard Webb,

Marcia Smith 09:39
songwriter? Is that? Leonard Bernstein, no, then I don’t know.

09:45
Paul McCartney, really, he wrote the song, and he used Bernard Webb as a nom de plume, and Peter ashery gave it to Peter and Gordon because Peter was his brother in law at the time. He’s married, or he’s dating, Jane Asher, I think he’s going. To get married to her. So he was a he was her, her brother. So, okay,

Marcia Smith 10:03
all right, Bob, is the moon getting closer or farther away from Earth as the centuries roll by?

Bob Smith 10:10
Wow. I never thought of this. I hope it’s not getting too close. Just

Marcia Smith 10:14
since you were born. You think it’s gotten closer or farther away? Well,

Bob Smith 10:19
why would it be getting closer, is it the Earth’s gravity is pulling it closer to us?

Marcia Smith 10:23
I’m asking you, Bob,

Bob Smith 10:25
it’s coming closer because the Earth’s gravity is pulling it closer to us.

Marcia Smith 10:29
Nope, it’s farther away. Oh, geez, in four point 15 billion BC, the moon was only 14,000 miles away, and today it’s 250,000 miles away.

Bob Smith 10:42
What was that first date?

Marcia Smith 10:44
It says 4.5 billion. BCE, geez.

Bob Smith 10:48
How does anybody measure something that far back?

Marcia Smith 10:52
I don’t know. Bob, one major difference, is

Bob Smith 10:55
there a born on date or something today it’s 250,000

Marcia Smith 10:59
miles away. It didn’t explain why it’s going farther away. It’s just it’s pulling out into the galaxies farther every year. And it was originally part of the Earth, but it broke off. Did you know that? Well, I

Bob Smith 11:10
know there’s that theory. Yes, I’ve heard of that before, yeah. And

Marcia Smith 11:13
it’s just little by little keeps getting farther away, and the slow journey from earth continues, and the sun will go supernova before this ever stops.

Bob Smith 11:23
The moon, hopefully that’ll be a little after we’re gone. It should be it should be okay. Marcia, you know that famous date of July 4, 1826, that’s when two US former US presidents died, yep, Jefferson and Adams? Yes. On the day Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died. One of America’s greatest musical composers was born. Who was he?

Marcia Smith 11:46
What was he again? 1826,

Bob Smith 11:50
one of the was it? One of America’s greatest? Pan Alley guy? Well, sort of 19th century composer, famous, wrote a lot of songs. Tin Pan Alley wrote songs about the South, yeah, Ray down on the Suwannee

Marcia Smith 12:04
River. Yes, yes. That would be, that would be, Dear God, everybody knows. Yes. Everybody knows. But

Bob Smith 12:11
Marcia, okay. Stephen Foster, okay, yeah. He was born on July 4, 1826, the same day that Adams and Jefferson died. He wrote many songs about the south. But guess what? He only actually visited the south once. Oh, really, it was in 1852 when he visited New Orleans, and that was after he wrote Suwannee River.

Marcia Smith 12:32
Okay, Bob, what’s the picture on the back of the buffalo? Nickel,

Bob Smith 12:37
it’s an Indian or a Native American? Excellent.

Marcia Smith 12:39
Yeah, yes, you win. That’s it, all

Bob Smith 12:43
right. Recently we had the fifth of May, which is known as Cinco de Mayo. It’s an Independence Day of sorts. In Mexico, independence from whom? Independence from whom? Yeah, Spain, Spain. That makes sense. Uh huh, guess what? What? No, it was independence from France. Oh, really, see, Cinco de Mayo isn’t really the Independence Day in Mexico. That was, that’s in September. Mexico had already declared its independence from Spain in 1821 40 years later, in 1861 Mexico did something that caused all the big powers to send troops into it. It said, we’re not going to pay any more of our debts. So all the big powers came in England, Spain, France, England and Spain pulled out, but France remained for about six years, and there was a big battle at Puebla in 1862 where 4000 Mexican soldiers defeated 8000 French. That was a big morale booster for the Spanish on Cinco de Mayo. That’s what they’re celebrating, the victory of Cinco de Mayo. Okay? And how popular is it? Some authorities say it stimulates more beer sales than the Super Bowl. No

13:47
kidding, that

Bob Smith 13:48
big holiday. Wow,

Marcia Smith 13:50
that’s hard to fathom. Yes,

Bob Smith 13:51
it did. That’d be hard to drink in, wouldn’t it? I think it’s time for a break.

Marcia Smith 13:56
Okay?

Bob Smith 13:57
You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob Marsha Smith. We’ll be back in a moment.

14:03
We’re back. This is the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We do this every week for the Cedarburg Public Library, and it’s internet radio station. After that, it goes out over the podcasting platforms to people all over the world. So fortunately, we have listeners in suburbs all over the world, suburbs all over the world, multiple continents of suburbs. All right, all right. Marsh, what you got? How

Marcia Smith 14:24
long is the longest snake ever to be discovered? The

Bob Smith 14:28
longest snake ever to be discovered? Uh huh, ooh. Is it a Python or something

Marcia Smith 14:33
like that? It is. It’s a reticulated python.

Bob Smith 14:36
Let me say it’s 25 feet long.

Marcia Smith 14:39
That’s long, this is 32 feet and nine and a half.

Bob Smith 14:43
Oh, my God, it’s just scary enough. That’s creepy as can be two feet.

Marcia Smith 14:47
Think about how long that is. That’s like twice the length of this room. Jeez, that’s

14:51
amazing.

Marcia Smith 14:53
And you find these lovely native creatures in South and Southeast Asia. You know how they. Smell, Bob, how snakes smell.

Bob Smith 15:02
You mean, how they sense smell, or how they stink? No, how they that could be they have an aroma. Is that what you’re saying? Good, good

Marcia Smith 15:08
distinction. But, yeah, I meant to say, how do they actually smell through their

Bob Smith 15:13
eyes?

Marcia Smith 15:13
Well, close their tongue. Oh, really, yeah, those little tongues that that’s what they smell with, yeah, with their you know, they’re all of us out there. Yeah, darting tongues. Yeah. Snakes have limited hearing and eyesight compared to humans, but they make up for it with an incredible sense of smell done through their

Bob Smith 15:33
tongues. Yeah, wow. Marcia just talking about something we’ve discussed in the past, about how the commercial real estate market really hasn’t recovered from the COVID lockdown. All the office buildings we see them in our city that are open and some being converted to apartments. This is a headline from the New York Times over the weekend, available for lease in Manhattan, a record 94 million square feet of office space.

Marcia Smith 15:59
Holy Come Holy. They’re in trouble. They’re

Bob Smith 16:02
in big trouble. And they said that the biggest trouble for these big cities is the lack of of tax revenue. If you don’t have those buildings being paid for or tenants in there, you’re not getting taxes. Gonna be interesting to see how this all fairs out. All right, what you

Marcia Smith 16:16
got? The phrase put your best foot forward. Means you’re trying to impress someone, or you’re just, you know, putting out your best self there. Where does that come from? What’s the origin of that phrase? Put

Bob Smith 16:26
your best foot forward. Yes, of course.

Marcia Smith 16:31
I love words. It’s

Bob Smith 16:32
funny. I do too, and this one is one of those. It’s got a just a great visual feel to it, right? You’re gonna stride right in there. Put your best foot forward. Does this have anything to do with somebody who didn’t have a good foot in the behind, you know? Is there a bad foot and a best foot, a best foot, a better foot Bob

Marcia Smith 16:50
that don’t put that bad foot of yours out there? This goes back to when European men wore short pantaloons with tight stockings, you know. And that stockings would conform to their muscular shape of their legs, okay? And if they did, they would vainly stand with their most attractive leg in a forward position to interest women. Oh, my goodness, and also to impress men with their strength. Oh, good, Louie, would just put it out there and said, Look at me. Look at me. Look at

17:21
that ankle of mine. My my thunder thighs. That’s

Marcia Smith 17:26
lovely.

Bob Smith 17:28
That’s amazing. See, I could see it being a lady, a woman. Put your best foot forward. That’s

Marcia Smith 17:33
why I enjoyed it. It

Bob Smith 17:35
was funny. Hey, speaking as things aren’t as they used to be. If your name is Habsburg. It’s a different lifestyle, because the Habsburg Empire ended in 1916 This is the family that ruled Austria, Hungary for 600 years. This is European royalty, the Habsburg Gotcha. And there are 600 Habsburgs still around. They lead various lives, doing various things. Ferdinand Habsburg would be the heir apparent to the House of Habsburg. Lorraine. Were his family in power today, but not anymore. He races cars, does he really? Yeah, that’s what he does. Just looks like a regular guy, young man with a mustache, and put

Marcia Smith 18:17
a 50 pound crown on it his head, and it changed his whole look, okay, it would change your

Bob Smith 18:22
life. But one of the things he revealed was, we all stay in touch. We’ve got a WhatsApp. All the Habsburgs stay in touch, really, yeah, and they’ve got a whatsapp to keep in touch, because they don’t have thrones anymore or palaces, I guess. But just I thought it was interesting, you know, we’ve got King Charles being crowned, and when then we have the Habsburg Monarchy is, you know, moribund. It’s been moribund since 1916 but there’s 600 members of it still along WhatsApp. You have their own WhatsApp.

Marcia Smith 18:51
That’s very cool. He

Bob Smith 18:52
says, I’ve got houses all over the world I can go to. It’s kind of like a free Airbnb. Oh, really

Marcia Smith 18:56
is that? They all share it funny, hawks and doves Bob the terms for war mongers and peaceniks, right? Yes, begin during what event? Hmm,

Bob Smith 19:07
gee, I would have thought that had taken place a long, long time ago, hawks and doves. Yeah, no, it’s our lifetime. Then I would say the Vietnam War. But was it before that? Yes,

Marcia Smith 19:17
it was the Cuban Missile Crisis. Oh, no

Bob Smith 19:20
kidding.

Marcia Smith 19:20
The term hawks comes from Thomas Jefferson. I didn’t know that. Yeah, he coined the word war hawks and dove. The dove came from the biblical book of Genesis, when the story says, Noah sent out a dove to find land, right, right, and he returned with an olive leaf. But they weren’t used together until the Cuban Missile Crisis, and people started trying to name the people that were pro war and anti war.

Bob Smith 19:45
I didn’t know that. That’s when it really kind of gelled together. Yeah, wow.

Marcia Smith 19:49
All right, Bob, name the top three countries with the highest average IQ scores.

Bob Smith 19:55
Okay, so you’d have to have these scores in a country where IQ tests were done. On. Well, that’s

Marcia Smith 20:00
a good deduction. That would probably

Bob Smith 20:01
lead us to be in Europe, the North American area, or Asia. Okay, so I would say, I’ll say the United States is one. Hopefully, I will say, let’s see. Let’s do European country, Germany, and I will do China. Well,

Marcia Smith 20:18
you were wrong, wrong and wrong us is number 28 actually, with an average IQ score of 97.443 okay, okay. Number one is Japan, 106 point 48 coming in next Taiwan, 106 47 so they’re virtually Thai, okay? And Singapore at 105 point eight, nine, wow. This

Bob Smith 20:41
leads to the answer to the question, Why did those Asian kids do so well in school? What do you

Marcia Smith 20:45
think they’re they value it. Value Education. The parents, you know, promote it exactly. Make them study.

Bob Smith 20:52
So those have the highest IQ scores. Japan. What was the Taiwan top

Marcia Smith 20:56
five? Japan? Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong? Wow. And the Yeah, it’s

Bob Smith 21:02
technically, right? Hong Kong is China. So I got one point all

Marcia Smith 21:06
right, but that was number five, so I use that the top three. But okay, right? I was wrong that you want to know the lowest, yes, what’s the lowest? The lowest, Nepal, hmm, it’s 42.99

Bob Smith 21:19
that’s pretty low. The air so thin there, so you’re way up in the mountains. That’s the reason, sure, that’s why

Marcia Smith 21:23
they’re landlocked in South Asia. So Liberia comes in at 45.07 Sierra Leone, 45.7 so they’re Thai. And then next is Guatemala, at 47.72

Bob Smith 21:40
so those are the last those

Marcia Smith 21:41
are the lowest, yeah, the lowest being Nepal, okay, yeah,

Bob Smith 21:45
all right. Well, that’s good, Hey. Why did the British cover an ancient hillside horse design with grass in World War Two?

Marcia Smith 21:54
Say again.

Bob Smith 21:55
Why did the British cover an ancient hillside horse design with grass in World War Two.

Marcia Smith 22:01
Horse design. What’s that? Well,

Bob Smith 22:04
there are these ancient hillside designs across Britain of horses. There are some with horses standing, and there’s some they’re like chalk designs that were in the ground, that were actually dug into the ground, really, they’re chalk mounds or chalk hills. Okay? And so there’s this one. It’s called the uffington White Horse near uffington, Oxfordshire. It’s an ancient chalky white design embedded deep in a UK hillside. It’s abstract, bearing similarities to the horses depicted on Celtic or Celtic coins, or, some say, maybe a St George’s dragon. Anyway. It wasn’t just scratched into this chalky hillside, but it was duck in up to three feet deep. It’s been there for centuries. It’s 360 feet long. So it’s a big design, so big the British military covered it with grass during World War Two. So German Luftwaffe pilots wouldn’t use it for navigation.

Marcia Smith 22:57
I was going to say that would be a little map for them where they

Bob Smith 23:01
were not a little map, but a big one, yeah. So, and they, recently, they did some scientific tests of the soil dates between 550 BC and 1300 80 BC, okay, the Bronze Age, huh? So, anyway, so that’s why they covered up. That’s why the British covered this ancient UK Hill design with grass during World War Two.

Marcia Smith 23:19
Okay, that makes sense. How did a trophy become a symbol of victory?

Bob Smith 23:26
Oh, how did a trophy become a symbol of victory? Okay? Now, some of the first, a lot of the classic trophies are like cups, so I would assume that the first trophy given to a team somewhere in ancient times was a big cup of wine or something like that. And so that was the PAL trophies kind of evolved. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 23:45
well, that’s much nicer than what really happened. Okay,

Bob Smith 23:48
it was a cup of blood, something like that.

Marcia Smith 23:51
It’s pretty gory.

23:52
Oh dear. Let’s

Marcia Smith 23:53
just say Be thankful for the Lombardi trophy. And, okay, oh gosh, after a victory on the battlefield, ancient Greeks would build a monument dedicated to a chosen God, and they called the monument a trophy. And the trophies were made of various limbs stripped from the dead enemy soldiers,

Bob Smith 24:14
oh dear,

Marcia Smith 24:14
and then hung on a tree or a pillar.

24:17
Oh my.

Marcia Smith 24:18
So that was the trophy.

Bob Smith 24:19
Trophy is made of a bag of bones, just a bunch of bones.

Marcia Smith 24:21
Well, limbs, limbs hanging on a tree or a pillar, and that was called a trophy, and that’s where the term came from. So

Bob Smith 24:29
then when people say a trophy in battle and they talk about cutting off an ear or something, that’s where it comes from. Ah, dear.

Marcia Smith 24:36
Some say it’s a ritual kept alive today by some modern trophy hunters who celebrate their victory over an animal by putting its head on the wall. Yeah,

Bob Smith 24:46
it makes sense that that’s where that term comes from. Yeah, their

Marcia Smith 24:49
trophy. Oh,

Bob Smith 24:50
my God. Oh, that’s sad. Okay. Well, that makes that it seems less diabolical to say the trophy of war, then, because that’s where the whole thing came from. Yeah, yeah. All right? Well, we know that empires have taken over countries over the years. Usually there’s a war, some kind of a conflict. But actually, one of the United States was taken over in a bloodless coup by England in 1664, what state was taken over by England? Oh gosh, let me think it has one of the very first cities. I’ll

Marcia Smith 25:23
say Vermont. Vermont,

Bob Smith 25:25
no,

Marcia Smith 25:29
Rhode Island, no.

Bob Smith 25:30
Too small. Too small.

Marcia Smith 25:32
Tell me New York. New

25:35
York was New Netherlands. That’s what it was originally. What became New York was a Dutch colony named New Netherlands, and then it its largest city was named New Amsterdam. So they had their plans for being, you know, big in the United States. What we now know is the United States, it was a prosperous but lightly defended colony, and the English took an interest in it. And back then, the English did whatever they wanted to do. Yes, they did. So the British Navy sailed into New Amsterdam harbor with a huge flotilla in 1664, and they achieved a bloodless takeover when the Dutch leader surrendered, and later, New Netherlands got a new name, New York, and the city became New York City. So that’s how it all started.

Marcia Smith 26:18
I will be danged. Okay, I’m gonna finish up with two great quotes on leadership. Okay, one from Georgie Patton. Georgie Patton, little Georgie Patton, little General. Georgie Pat like this when he was a boy, I always liked this. Yeah. Okay, I think this is what you said to me when we got married. Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way.

Bob Smith 26:40
I did say that to you? No, I did not. I never talked to you like that. And then

Marcia Smith 26:45
there’s Casey Stengel. There are three kinds of people, those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who ask, what happened?

Bob Smith 26:55
That’s me. What did I miss? What

Marcia Smith 26:57
is that from Hamilton, what did I miss? That’s right. All

Bob Smith 27:01
right. We that’s funny. Those are, those are two very good quotes. Thanks, Marcia. You’re welcome. Well, that’s it for today. We, we always enjoy hearing from you. And if you’d like to contribute to the show, you can go to our website, the off ramp, dot show, scroll all the way down to contact us and leave us a message or a question for us to answer. That’s it. I’m Bob Smith, I’m Marcia Smith, join us again next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Indeed, here on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarbrook Public Library, Cedarburg, Wisconsin, the.

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