Marcia Smith 0:00
What famous baseball player was hired at age 62 to play for the Atlanta Braves.

Bob Smith 0:06
What? Really? This will be interesting, will it and how many different professions has Barbie had a lot of different professions in 60 years time how that answers to those and other questions coming up in this half hour of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith

Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy take a side road to sanity and get some perspective on life with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Indeed. Well, Marcia, that was a compelling opening question you have there. Thank you here, a famous Major League Baseball player was hired by the Atlanta Braves at age 62 to play

Marcia Smith 1:05
and he asked 20 teams to take him on their roster and only one responded. This is a famous guy, Bob. Okay. He’s a pitcher.

Bob Smith 1:13
He’s a pitcher. It’s now save a pitcher.

Marcia Smith 1:16
Yeah. And the year was 1966.

Bob Smith 1:20
Wow, I have no idea satchel page. Oh, no kidding.

Marcia Smith 1:23
Yeah. And why was he looking for employment at 62? Well, that’s

Bob Smith 1:27
a good question. Was

Marcia Smith 1:27
it the money? It was the pension? He was 158 days short of getting his pension. His major league baseball pension? Yeah. Okay. Yes, he reached out to 20 teams, Bob, and nobody hired him except the Braves. He

Bob Smith 1:41
just needed to get on a payroll for 158 days. And he would make his pension.

Marcia Smith 1:46
Yeah. Wow. Which he needed. And he was one of the most famous pitchers of all time. And, and for

Bob Smith 1:52
some listeners who didn’t know who satchel page was he was a legendary black baseball player who played in the Negro Leagues and then got into the major leagues, and was excellent. He was an excellent player. Oh,

Marcia Smith 2:03
he’s one of the best of all time. Yeah, no question about it. And what’s interesting is this is 1966. The Milwaukee Braves team moved in, but instead about

Bob Smith 2:14
64. Atlanta, Atlanta, there was a big controversy. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 2:18
And the reason I’ve got to this story is because Bob Euchre, who was still the voice of the Milwaukee Brewers, he was a catcher back then with the Braves that was listening to the game yesterday. And he talked about playing with satchel page, and I went Hmm, how could that be? And it’s because he and Hank Aaron both left Milwaukee, the Milwaukee Braves and went to Atlanta when they were sold. And that’s when they hired satchel page. So

Bob Smith 2:42
they both went to work for the Braves as Atlanta Braves that’s right and and satchel page was there.

Marcia Smith 2:48
He was hired as a part time pitcher and an advisor to their pitching staff. So I don’t think he even threw one pitch but he was there he was there tactically hired to play yeah if case they wanted to use so he was always on deck and practicing. That is so fast and all the rules changed with the MLB Major League Baseball because of his plight they changed a lot of rules so more people would become eligible and get their money quicker and players Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, a

Bob Smith 3:18
lot of those things needed to change it needed to change in football as well.

Marcia Smith 3:21
were aghast that he couldn’t get his pension.

Bob Smith 3:24
Oh my after being such a star.

Marcia Smith 3:26
He was a huge star. Okay, from satchel page to Barbie tell me we don’t cover the waterfront.

Bob Smith 3:31
Right and Barbie has been around a long time to 60 years and 60 years. How many different professions has Barbie had? Do you have any idea Marcia?

Unknown Speaker 3:40
Tosh? 50 No.

Bob Smith 3:43
This came from the New York Times article the things that make Barbie Barbie they had a lot of little sidebars and one was about Barbies professions. Barbie has had over 250 250 occupations.

Marcia Smith 3:57
She’s a busy little bee

Bob Smith 3:59
we mentioned a few of them last episode, but I’ll run through a few more here. It’s kind of fun early on. You could buy Barbie as a ballerina with ribbons shoes as a student teacher with notebooks and glasses or as a registered nurse with medicine a hot water bottle and a diploma. All these were miniature things. Yeah. Since that time Barbie has been a fighter pilot feeling a UNICEF ambassador, a marine biologist, cupcake chef, computer engineer and aerobics instructor and when the space race took off, she became an astronaut with a white, a white helmet, a silver suit and snazzy zip moon boots. They’d have to be fashion forward of course. Later on Barbie became a veterinarian complete with a white jacket plastic cats and dogs and a stethoscope. Did you know Barbie was an Olympic swimmer at one time I

Speaker 1 4:48
don’t doubt it. There was a eliminate those legs. Olympic swimmer

Bob Smith 4:51
Barbie with goggles and metals and an entrepreneur armed with an iPhone and a tablet displaying a bar chart In recent years Barbie who has never had children? That’s interesting. Yeah, she’s focused on building a career in STEM. So they had Barbies that represented science, technology, engineering, mathematics, all fields that women were underrepresented and did she marry can she never married south so she was a single gal. This is an interesting thing Barbie never married and Ken never lived in the Barbie Dream House can always left at night. You know, that’s why it was still a dream. Again left after the date he never stayed. I found this out. This is funny. Anyway, Barbie has become a robotics engineer, a software developer, and you can get free coding classes for those who buy those dolls. So those are all from the things that make Barbie Barbie from the New York Times I thought those are fascinating. Oh, one more thing. Did you know Barbie has a Pantone color. It’s pink of course. But there’s there’s an official Barbie shade. Anybody who’s worked in advertising or art knows this that all colors are empirically set with specific mixtures. There is a Pantone swatch to 19 C which has a shade of pink that was already available but the Barbie and Mattel and Pantone came together and awarded her that so it’s Barbie pink.

Marcia Smith 6:14
Well, that’s kind of cute. Okay, well that’s that’s how long has she been on the market? 60 some isn’t she ready for a pension?

Bob Smith 6:21
60 odd years? Yeah, there’s probably a Barbie pension coming

Marcia Smith 6:24
up. Yeah. Retirement Barbie,

Bob Smith 6:26
it’d be a pink piece of paper in your living party.

Unknown Speaker 6:29
Can’t wait for that.

Marcia Smith 6:31
Okay. All right, Bob. I was reading Popular Mechanics the other day. Oh, yes.

Bob Smith 6:36
I always see that in your head. Okay. Scientists

Marcia Smith 6:38
call this g p m 1839. G P M?

Bob Smith 6:44
1839. Yeah. G P

Marcia Smith 6:46
M? J 1839. Dash 10

Bob Smith 6:50
J 1839. Okay, I’m kidding. What is this? What

Marcia Smith 6:54
this has been going on since 1988? What is it? G

Bob Smith 6:59
P, M, and n all those numerals after that? Yeah, I have no idea. Is that a formula? Well,

Marcia Smith 7:04
no. What is what they gave this name? And its?

Bob Smith 7:08
Aren’t you gonna give me any clues? Ah,

Marcia Smith 7:10
not this one. Oh, thanks. It’s a mysterious, pulsating light that appears in space every 21 minutes really since 1988. And scientists cannot figure out what it is. Holy cow. Isn’t that weird? Yes, some things in the universe shine with constant light, but some beam of light from other sources. And some are large explosions. And some pulsate like a ticking or a flashing but this isn’t like any of those. It just doesn’t fit into any category. And they’re still looking every 21 minutes on the dark. Wow,

Bob Smith 7:45
that’s scary. Yeah, it pulsates. Okay, speaking of science, how do today’s semiconductor chips add up compared to the first from the 1950s add up? Well, what’s the comparison in terms of the number of transistors? How many transistors are in it are in a semiconductor chip today to Well, no, that was what it was in the 1950s. Oh, now it’s like 150. Now it’s a lot more than that the first semiconductor chips, which were invented in the late 1950s, they held only a handful of transistors. But today, the primary semiconductor in a new smartphone in your new smartphone, which you need to get measure has between 10 and 20 billion transistors 10 to 20 billion translation that nothing can be that small. Yes, because each is about the size of a virus. It’s all done through photo engraving. They just reduce reduce reduce the size of these things. Is that amazing? Well, that’s unfathomable. Yes, it is. But far less threatening than the pulsating light that’s being seen in outer space every 20 minutes. Oh, my God.

Marcia Smith 8:52
Ah, all right. Well, that’s, that’s amazing. I didn’t realize it was that many at all.

Bob Smith 8:57
I have an interesting food fact. I’m going to ask you this. Since we’re talking science. There is a certain type of breaded coding that’s made using electric current is probably something you’ve had on some food you’ve eaten. What kind of breaded coding is made using electric current, kind

Marcia Smith 9:14
of breaded coating. I don’t want food, I don’t know. panco I see only one. I know. NCO panko

Bob Smith 9:21
is a type of flaky bread crumbs used in Japanese cuisine as a crunchy coating for fried foods, and panko is made from bread baked by an electric current that results in bread without a crust. And never I’ve never thought of that. Panko was created by grinding the bread to create fine slivers of crumbs and it has a crisper airier texture. And it all comes from that electric current being applied to it well, often used on seafood and typically available in Asian markets.

Marcia Smith 9:50
I’ll be damned. Well, I have a food question for transition. Okay. Where will you find in the United States Bob, the oldest Chinese restaurant The

Bob Smith 10:00
oldest Chinese restaurant in the United States. Yeah, I would say San Francisco because that was where a lot of the early Chinese exactly emigrants came. It’s exactly what I would have said to build railroads and so forth, but it’s not it’s an only Illinois. Close

Marcia Smith 10:14
up Montana. Oh, no, really. It’s still there. The Pekin noodle parlor has been continuously operating as a Chinese noodle parlor since 1911. Wow. In 2023 This place was named and American Classic by the James Beard Foundation, no less. Wow, it’s called peeking noodle parlor. Wow. And peeking. Is there another way in the old days of saying peeking, okay, so it’s a noodle parlor. And it’s still a family run business started by tam Quan Yi. And his chief clientele back in the day were railroad workers miners miners, okay, yeah, up in Montana. And so he was a one shot place. You could get your noodles. You could get your if he had gaming parlors and an opium Damn. Oh my god, you can still see I’m there in the basement.

Bob Smith 11:08
But it’s such a good restaurant. The James Beard is giving us great ratings. That’s interesting. It

Marcia Smith 11:13
named it in American classic. Okay, okay. Yeah, it had everything you could possibly want. Including great noodles. You

Bob Smith 11:21
mentioned Ken Barbies boyfriend. Yeah. I got a bit about Ken okay. He was introduced in 1961 I guess it was he has remained a secondary character in Barbies life can never as I said never stayed overnight and Barbie Dreamhouse doesn’t live there. Only Barbie does he never has been depicted as having an important job. He has been like somebody who works at the beach or you know some other things were around all the time drives around and everything. In the words of some critics Barbie did to can what some men do to women in real life. She made him a secondary character. But you know in 2017 Mattel like they did with Barbie they released a lot of different ethnic Barbies, you know, did that Yeah. Oh, yeah. But Barbie released a suite of candles with different races body shapes in here dues in 2017

Marcia Smith 12:10
B turn? Well, that’s good. I know there was evolution of the American Girl doll. Yeah, we never bought Barbies for our daughter and I never played with them. We just like more cuddly things. But the American Girl doll went through all that was very interesting. It was

Bob Smith 12:24
a time I remember when I and a lot of people I know feminist thought Barbie was like the enemy. You know, this is an exploitative thing. You know, it’s a bad image for girls, and it was all based focused on the physical. But what was totally unique what made Barbie totally unique when she was introduced her figure, that’s just part of it. When she was introduced, she was the first mass produced doll to depict a girl as a grown up. And that was the objective. That’s what Ruth Handler wanted to do. She wanted her daughter to have a toy like the ones that made her son want to grow up to be a firefighter or a policeman. At the time, there were no three dimensional toys like that on the market only baby dolls, which encouraged girls to practice motherhood.

Marcia Smith 13:08
Okay. Hey, Bob. What was the first country to grant women the right to vote in national elections?

Bob Smith 13:14
What year was that?

Marcia Smith 13:16
1893

Bob Smith 13:18
Wow. At 93 first country? It wasn’t England wasn’t Nope. But might have been an island somewhere. Well, is it an island nation? No. Okay, I’m just thinking of someplace that’s either isolated where women are needed for labor.

Marcia Smith 13:34
Well, this is isolated. Okay. New Zealand. Oh, really? And the language there is English, isn’t it? Yes, it is. So it wasn’t English speaking country that year. 1893 90,000. Women, they said peacefully voted.

Bob Smith 13:50
Because women were always known to be violently voting, I

Marcia Smith 13:52
guess, oh, my little worried about a little disruption. And it took 27 years more for us to hop on in 1920 with the 19th amendment to Let us vote. So

Bob Smith 14:05
New Zealand was the pioneer. Yeah. That’s great.

Marcia Smith 14:08
What year that was 1893. Okay,

Bob Smith 14:12
I think it’s time for a break, don’t you think? Is it alright, anytime to go to the polling place and pull the lever and nobody pulls levers anymore? We all we all fill out paper ballots. It’s like we’ve gone back to the ancient days or something. Yeah. All right. We’ll be back with more in just a moment. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith.

Marcia Smith 14:31
I don’t stop there from

Bob Smith 14:35
we’re back. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We do this each week for the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and it’s CPL, radio, internet radio station, and after that it goes on podcast platforms throughout the world. Incidentally, if you are listening to our show, we would love to have people rate in review by going to the podcast platforms that always helps us get more visibility. On the web Good point. All right, Marsha. We were talking about Barbie and you mentioned her figure and all this and that did you know that Barbie was based on another? Well I’m going to ask you who was build Lily bi LD Lily. Never heard of her build Lily. She was the non baby doll that inspired Barbie Ruth Handler and the family they were on a vacation in Europe when they saw this you look at this original doll looks just like Barbie to me right away. I thought oh my god, they need to build Lilly they did copy build Lilly but they did it you know by getting the rights to it although there were there was some litigation because the folks who did build Lily didn’t think they get paid enough originally, but it was a West German doll based on a sexy female comic strip build Lily was a young attractive Secretary created by cartoonist Reinhardt booth teen and in the comic strip. She was confident witty and flirty, and she pursued rich man by striking provocative poses in revealing clothes and spouting suggestive dialogue. And one cartoon Lily is worn by a policeman. She’s illegally wearing a bikini on the sidewalk to which she asks Oh, and in your opinion, what part should I take off? Oh, forgot. Anyway, the newspaper that published this comic strip started making these dolls. They gave them a bachelor parties. They had little dresses and outfits, just like Barbie now, you know. And men used to use them to decorate their boats in their cars like oh, here’s my girlfriend, that kind of thing. And so Ruth Handler took it they reworked it turned it into Barbie and reintroduced the doll. Okay, build Lily big LD, a German doll.

Marcia Smith 16:34
Did you ever wonder why we call the Lone Ranger? The Lone Ranger if Tonto was always hanging around?

Bob Smith 16:43
Well, he was he had been a Texas Ranger. Correct and something happened and he went rogue out on his own. I forget what it was. Well, I used to know this legend. This

Marcia Smith 16:54
was a there’s a lot of backstory with the Lone Ranger and it was all developed up

Bob Smith 16:58
in Detroit, Michigan, where the radio station came up with the show. The Lone Ranger wasn’t in Texas.

Marcia Smith 17:03
Why you’ve been reading about Barbie. I’ve been going down the rabbit hole about the Lone Ranger.

Bob Smith 17:07
Okay. Tell me well, there’s

Marcia Smith 17:09
a whole lot of backstory and I think they address some of it in the 2013 movie with Johnny Depp who played Tonto Okay, at least Jay Silverheels. Remember him he was Tonto in the TV program who was a full blooded Mohawk. By the way. Anyway, as the story goes, The Lone Ranger was the only survivor of a group of six Texas Rangers who were wiped out by the vicious Cavendish game. Oh, a gang, okay. And our guy was left for dead. But Tonto came upon him and nursed him back to life. Oh, as luck would have it. Not long after that, Tonto and the Lone Ranger saved a brave stallion from being gored by a buffalo and they nursed the horse back to life. And then they set him free, but that trusty horse kept following them. Oh, that had to be silver high whole it was. So there’s all sorts of stories that go with Tonto and the Lone Ranger,

Bob Smith 18:05
you know, it’s funny. What was one of the first guys I ever interviewed on the phone was Clayton Moore. Oh, I forgot I remember. Who was the lone ranger from the TV series. My boss, Craig Swope at KTH in Dubuque, Iowa was saying, you should interview a bunch of these celebrities. You’ll enjoy it. He says they want publicity. And so he made some calls. He’d worked in Los Angeles, he made some calls to LA and got Clayton Morris number, and I called him up, he was on a tour, because that first Lone Ranger movie that came out in the 70s. You know, he wanted to be known as The Lone Ranger from the TV series. That’s how he made a living. He went out and signed autographs and went to places and spoke and the movie company, they were taking away his right to use the mask. So he couldn’t make a living. It was interfering with his way to make a living. And there was a court case for that. Yeah, turns out to be real bad publicity for the movie company. And finally they caved. And then they made him part of their publicity program for this film. Was he a good interview? He was great. And he had that voice that raspy voice. Imagine and he was so true to the character. Yeah. Was he? Oh, he was. That’s cool. And he was so nice to me on the phone. And he was one of those guys. First person I ever interviewed. And he kept saying my name Bob, you know, they always would write it down. Well, Bob, and it was great. And I eventually got a nice autographed picture from him. He’d been a huge circus Acrobat and everything. So Young man, want to play that someday part of that. That’ll be fun to play.

Marcia Smith 19:31
All right. You talked so much about my question. I got another one. Okay. Sure. Why do bulls have nose rings and cows don’t.

Bob Smith 19:40
Why do bulls have nose rings? And cows don’t. Okay, that heads up. Obviously, it has something to do with the gender. Is it because the bulls were given those rings to keep them more docile, were bigger than the cows were females. They were not as violent as the bulls.

Marcia Smith 19:58
How does that and keep them down. So

Bob Smith 20:01
you put a ring through somebody’s nose, they’re gonna follow you wherever you yanked them out.

Marcia Smith 20:05
yank them. That’s it for yanking the term bullheaded came from very cranky animals like bulls who don’t always want to do what you want. In fact, rarely do they do what you want. So to get them to go where you want them to go, they are ringed before they are a year old. Wow. And if they need to get a move somewhere, they can do it with a rope through their nose and the bolts follow pretty quickly because they can be led around by the nose.

Bob Smith 20:30
It would hurt pretty badly if

Marcia Smith 20:32
they didn’t. Yeah, that’s exactly right. That’s two phrases led around by the nose and bullheaded that come out of that customer.

Bob Smith 20:38
I didn’t know that. That’s very good. Okay, I got one more food question for you today. All right. You’ve heard of tiramisu. You’ve had that for dessert tiramisu. Okay, what’s the main flavor of tiramisu? Is it? Okay, orange, strawberry, chocolate, vanilla or coffee. Well,

Marcia Smith 20:58
those are all in there. Or in some degree, I’ll say chocolate. No,

Bob Smith 21:03
I would have said that to No. Second Chance. Mark. Oh, okay.

Marcia Smith 21:07
Then I’ll say coffee. That’s

Bob Smith 21:09
it. It’s a coffee flavored Italian dessert made with lady fingers. Dipped in coffee layered with whipped mixture of eggs, sugar and mascarpone cheese flavored with cocoa. Yeah. Did you know that’s a relatively recent dessert? No. We never heard about this when we were growing up. And that’s because there was very little mention of it in cookbooks before the 1960s. He had made its first appearance in print in Italian in 1980. And an English in 1982. Well,

Marcia Smith 21:38
now I know why I can’t always get to sleep after having terrible.

Bob Smith 21:41
It’s good coffee. Okay. Okay. years ago, we saw that recent documentary on Paul Newman and Joanne with Joanne Woodward. They were interviewed by Edward R. Murrow back in the day were their big stars in the 1950s. What was the one story Edward R Murrow wouldn’t let them tell?

Marcia Smith 22:00
Oh, really? Yes. Oh, how they met because he was married at the time though.

Bob Smith 22:06
I don’t know. It was a story about their bed. Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward had bought a huge bed from a New Orleans brothel. Oh, yeah. Shortly after they were married and they wanted to tell this colorful story of the bed on the TV show. But Edward armour Oh, wouldn’t let them do that. Too.

Marcia Smith 22:23
racy, huh?

Bob Smith 22:25
This is London. This is

Marcia Smith 22:27
not your bedroom. That’s right. But that would have been interesting would have been interesting. Okay.

Bob Smith 22:32
Remember the old movie Birdman of Alcatraz, Burt Lancaster portrayed Robert Stroud, the Birdman but who was in the cell next to him? What future TV star?

Marcia Smith 22:40
Was he a heavyset guy?

Bob Smith 22:42
He was a big guy had a distinctive look to him. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 22:45
I don’t know. I can’t remember his name. Delhi, Savalas? Oh, that wasn’t who I was thinking. Yeah, he

Bob Smith 22:50
played the convict in that 1962 film. And then of course, he became Kojak. It was okay. I knew. Maybe Yeah. He always had the popsicle and everything. All right. Yeah. But he was he was in that movie.

Marcia Smith 23:02
Okay. Didn’t know that. Why do we say something worthless is for the birds, Bob Dole. That’s

Speaker 1 23:08
for the birds. That’s exactly how they say God for the bird.

Bob Smith 23:14
You know, used to see that more in the old movies. You know, like in the 30s. People would say things I get asked for the birds. Usually they’re from Brooklyn for some reason. I don’t know the answer to

Marcia Smith 23:23
well, in the days of horses in the streets before cars, okay. Horses would leave behind a fair amount of nature deposit. That’s right. They did their quote, business in the street. These deposits carried a lot of undigested oats which birds like to swoop in on and dine. Uh huh. And the people of the time coined the expression for the birds as meaning anything of the same value as those horse droppings in poop. Yeah.

Speaker 1 23:49
That’s for the bird. Yeah. So get it now.

Marcia Smith 23:53
Yeah. Isn’t that interesting?

Bob Smith 23:54
I had no idea.

Marcia Smith 23:55
I love origins.

Bob Smith 23:57
I do too.

Marcia Smith 23:57
You have something else? You have something? Oh, please share. Don’t give me that thing. Kai.

Bob Smith 24:04
I just saw this the other day. And I thought this was interesting. You know, Devil’s Tower. That’s that famous feature of the land out in Wyoming. It looks like something it’s growing up out of the Yeah, you know, it was in the one of those movies where the Spielberg movies what was that called? Close Encounters. Yes. So the Devil’s Tower. That’s a strange looking thing that came up. I always thought that was a volcanic plug. But now they’ve come up saying no, that’s not what it was. Well, it looks like it was thrust up out of the ground, but it’s a massive rock formation 1267 feet above the grassland area around it. It’s believed that the rock is made of magma, that’s molten rock, but it’s no longer believed to be a volcanic plug. They think instead, that the the rock around it eroded away, because it is an igneous rock and everything else eroded away. It’s believed to have formed one to two miles below the earth’s surface. And starting between five to 10 million years ago, it began to be exposed gradually through the process of weathering and erosion.

Marcia Smith 25:06
It’s gonna say erosion. So how much is still underground? Everything around

Bob Smith 25:11
it was is gone. Yeah, it’s the only thing standing all the rest of the surface of the Earth eroded leaving that there. That’s amazing. It’s accepted it’s called a proto light or Porphyry rock. The surrounding softer rock was stripped away I it’s just, it’s amazing. Well, by the way, where did it get its name Devil’s Tower, they think it may be a result of a bad translation. Oh,

Marcia Smith 25:35
yeah. For Indian translations, right.

Bob Smith 25:37
Wow. What is the sight was known by the Indians as Bear Lodge. That’s what the Native Americans called it, then they think it was associated with bears rather than evil spirits. It suspected a bad translation led the men to confuse the word for bear and bad gods. Those two, so that’s happened more than once, because it was bad God it was must be the devil. Okay, do you have a thought for the day? Yes.

Marcia Smith 26:02
I’d like to end with a couple of quotes on perseverance, Bob. Okay, first one is from Mary and Radmacher. Well, what? Mary Anne Radmacher who? She?

Bob Smith 26:12
I don’t know. Okay, Marianne Radmacher. It sounds like a fake name to me. Okay. Okay. Anyway,

Marcia Smith 26:17
she said, Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I’ll try again tomorrow.

Bob Smith 26:26
Well, that’s That’s true. It does take that little voice for courage. Yeah, okay.

Marcia Smith 26:31
Thomas Edison. Okay. many of life’s failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.

Bob Smith 26:38
Oh, yeah. Well, he was good with those kinds of bromides about Oh, yeah. successes, 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. I love failure

Marcia Smith 26:48
before you have a success. And that’s what the quarterbacks are the great, great athletes and great athletes say

Bob Smith 26:55
I had to fail so many times before I became a champion. Yeah, that made me a champion. Yeah. All right. Well, we hope you’re a champion, and you champion our show, if we would like you to rate and review us if you would, please. If you’re so inclined on the podcast platform, you listen to us and this would be very helpful. And we want to also invite you to submit any kind of questions if you’d like us to try to stump one other with just go to our website, the off ramp dot show and scroll all the way down to contact us and you can do it there. And we’ll do it here when we return. I’m Bob Smith.

Marcia Smith 27:29
I’m Marcia Smith. Join us again next

Bob Smith 27:30
time when we bring you more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin.

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