212 Subversive Lyrics Trivia

Marcia Smith 0:00
Every film this actor ever appeared in, was nominated for Best Picture. Wow. Who is it?

Bob Smith 0:08 a
All right, and what state’s official song called Abraham Lincoln a tyrant until 2021. Oh, good Lord answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith.

Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy take a side road to sanity and get some perspective on life with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. So you have an actor whose every movie now has been nominated for Best Picture. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 0:59
gotta give me a guess.

Bob Smith 1:00
Wow. Is this a current actor or someone who’s deceased? He’s

Marcia Smith 1:03
deceased. He died at 42 years old in 1978.

Bob Smith 1:08
Well, I can’t imagine it must not be a long list of films, but still a significant list of Yeah.

Marcia Smith 1:14
All right, who was okay, it was John kazaaam. Oh,

Bob Smith 1:18
I remember him. I do from what? Dog Day Afternoon and it was like a hostage film. Oh, okay. It was one of the two guys kind of an inept crook. Oh, no,

Marcia Smith 1:27
he wasn’t the hostage. He was a crook. Yeah,

Bob Smith 1:29
he was very neurotic. I remember that. He was very neurotic. Very. I remember the character.

Marcia Smith 1:34
I remember him in godfather. He was Fredo Corleone. He was the brother who got knocked off by Michael Corleone out in the boat. Oh, he was taken out of the boat. Yeah, he’s going fishing while he swam with the fishes that That’s right. Swim with the fishes. Yeah, well, anyway, the movies he was in The Godfather, the conversation, the Godfather, part two Dog Day Afternoon and The Deer Hunter. Wow. And both godfathers in the deer hunter all won the top prize, but all were nominated Correct. Geez. And Al Pacino said of him. He was one of the great actors of our time, that time anytime. That’s

Bob Smith 2:13
quite a tribute.

Marcia Smith 2:14
It sure is.

Bob Smith 2:15
And if you see that guy’s face in a picture, you go oh, I remember him. Yeah, I remember him, Fredo that was said

Marcia Smith 2:24
he was the pathetic Korolyov didn’t he betrayed the family did Yeah, he did something. He betrayed

Speaker 1 2:29
the fire. But it was after I die. Do you think I give these questions just so you can do to see that one? That was Michael’s case? All right. Sorry.

Bob Smith 2:41
I gotta move on. Let me see if I can find a question. Okay, here we go. All right. This is an interesting story. What state’s official song called Abraham Lincoln a tyrant. Until 2021.

Marcia Smith 2:56
Oh, this is hard to believe. Okay. Is it a southern state? No, it wasn’t that’s the interesting thing. I said Northern State somebody that didn’t like um, northa. See,

Bob Smith 3:05
Abraham Lincoln was assassinated in 1865. The next 155 years this song officially disparaged him as a tyrant. So what state was it?

Marcia Smith 3:15
I’ll say, is it the Northeast?

Bob Smith 3:20
It’s actually kind of on the border, but it’s in the north? Yeah, like call it a northern state. Okay, but some people didn’t back in the Civil War,

Marcia Smith 3:27
but war like it wasn’t Tennessee State Kentucky. are not that far down. Okay, tell me

Bob Smith 3:35
the state was Maryland. Yeah. Now you think of Maryland as a northern state and Baltimore is a northern city. But at the time of the Civil War, Maryland was Southern and character it officially remained neutral during the war. Residents of Maryland fought for both the north and the south. I didn’t know that. Yeah, they did not take a position. And according to britannica.com, Maryland’s official state song Maryland, my Maryland was written in 1861 as a plea for the state to join the Confederacy. The song refers to Abraham Lincoln as a dead spot a tyrant and suggest Maryland should join Virginia and see seed.

Marcia Smith 4:13
Why on earth? How did that happen? How did it become the official state song?

Bob Smith 4:18
Well, first, it’s titled Maryland, my Maryland, Larissa song like that in Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, it sounds patriotic, right? Okay. And it was sung and played for years in state schools, with many of its most egregious words omitted in other words, people performed it unknowingly. And the words that were used about war and battles, people thought, well, that must be about the Revolutionary War or the War of 1812. You know, much like the Star Spangled Banner was about the Battle of Fort McHenry in Baltimore Harbor. So you know, it kind of made sense. It’s part of their state’s history. And surely the tyrant referred to in the lyrics must be King George the Third, right? But no, it’s a For him Lagos

Marcia Smith 5:00
did say that in the word no, it

Bob Smith 5:02
doesn’t use him by name. No, it doesn’t. But the unsung lyrics refer to the state’s neck being under the despots heel that refers to Lincoln. And they asked Marylanders not to let Virginia call in vain for secession but to spurn the northern scum. So why did it live on Bob? Why did it become a performed song? Kind of unthinking inertia? This is one of those examples of things that kind of live on and till people start thinking about it. Yeah, that’s funny that kept being played and played unknowingly by generations. By the time it had been adopted as the official state song in 1939. It had functioned as their de facto anthem for 80 years and for the next 82 years, it continued to be played, had guessed when it stopped. There was during all the stuff that happened after George Floyd’s death, Novia started looking at lyrics, you know, a lot of times it was played without the lyrics and people just, you know, yeah, stand their hand over heart just like they did with the Star Spangled Banner, not realizing this whole thing is making fun of Abraham Lincoln’s get rid of Lincoln. Then in 2020 2021, the University of Maryland marching band said, we’re not going to perform this anymore. It’s it’s not good. And Baltimore’s Pimlico race course, the annual Preakness horse racing event said, No, we’re not going to do that anymore, either. Because they understood the words then. Yeah, because everybody started examining the words. And Jamie Raskin. You’ve seen him in Congress? Yes, Congressman from Maryland, he said, it was written by a Maryland expatriate who was trying to get Maryland to join the Confederacy. It was sung by Confederate troops marching into battle. It has nothing to do with who we are as a state today. So the song fell when many of the other monuments to the Confederacy began to fall. It’s one of those kinds of things. Finally, it was retired by the state in 2021. And that’s the story of how a US states official song referred to Abraham Lincoln as a tyrant for 156 years after his death until 2021. So amazing story.

Marcia Smith 7:05
Okay, Bob, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, what comic strip holds the record for being the most widely Syndicated Comic Strip in the world?

Bob Smith 7:16
I think it was peanuts, wasn’t it? No, it wasn’t peanuts. No, it wasn’t Beetle Bailey.

Marcia Smith 7:21
Now. This is now still I believe. Oh, is

Bob Smith 7:24
that right? Yeah. Is that the far side? Mute? Okay, what is it Garfield?

Oh, no kidding. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 7:29
Jim Davies. He’s the illustrator. That comic has been around since 1978. And that funky fee line is read in over 2400 newspapers by about 200 million people to this day. Yeah. Davis grew up on a farm with 25 cats. When he started to do a strip he figured there were too many dogs already in comic strips. So we went with a cat, Garfield, who loves coffee and lasagna and dislikes Monday and diets. I

Bob Smith 7:59
gave you a Garfield cat a little toy. When we started dating one of

Marcia Smith 8:04
the first things you gave it as somebody to go along with me when I was going off on vacation. That’s right. Because

Bob Smith 8:10
you had a cat. Yes, I did. Come to think of it. I never thought of Garfield as being an unusual character. But there were no cats that were in comic strips at all except Felix the Cat X was going way back but otherwise he kept those things but nothing lovable or chromogen

Marcia Smith 8:26
which Garfield actually was he did you read him or still do yeah he’s kind

Bob Smith 8:30
of sarcastic and quiet. He’ll Solon sitting in the corner you know. Had a comment like some of my friends. Yeah. Marcia what two national treasures have a misspelled state name on them? To national treasures have a misspelled state’s name?

Marcia Smith 8:49
Washington Monument?

Bob Smith 8:51
That’s a good guess. Because they have all of the states I think on the stones today. You didn’t say there’s a stone from every state and most countries ever saw. Oh, you never went inside

Marcia Smith 8:59
that inside Go.

Bob Smith 9:01
Oh, you have to climb it.

Marcia Smith 9:02
I was there with you last night. Yes. I don’t think we didn’t go outside wise.

Bob Smith 9:06
I think it was closed at that point. They were doing some work. I

Marcia Smith 9:08
was there. Okay. So now what are they?

Bob Smith 9:11
She’s here. Let’s close it now.

Marcia Smith 9:13
What’s the what’s the answer?

Bob Smith 9:15
The Liberty Bell and the US Constitution?

Marcia Smith 9:18
Really? What are the words? Well,

Bob Smith 9:20
they both spell Pennsylvania with just one n in the first syllable instead of P E and it’s P E N. Despite the fact that William Penn the man the state was named after spelled his name with two ends. Yeah. But But spelling the state with one end in the first syllable. It was accepted spelling at the time. Okay, so Pennsylvania, so it’s not a typo on the Liberty Bell or the Constitution. Now besides Pennsylvania, what other words are misspelled in the Constitution? By today’s standards

Marcia Smith 9:48
by today’s standards, didn’t they use some kind of English spellings also back then?

Bob Smith 9:53
So them are British spellings? Yes. So color. That’s right, since they were British subjects at the time we can overlook Colors do l o u r? And think of another CNAME I don’t know control that was spelled C o n t r o u l. Defense. They’re spelled with a British Yeah, def en ce. Labor appeared in the document spell r o u r. But the most glaring too many eyes was the words choose it spelled ch U S. E. O really several times in the Constitution was that an English? Choose was also an accepted spelling of the word at the time, but those words are all spelled to our eyes incorrectly. Yeah, today, defense control, choose labor and Pennsylvania. Yeah. All right.

Marcia Smith 10:38
Oh, wise one. Do you know the difference between a flock of geese and a gaggle of geese

Bob Smith 10:44
flock is when they’re in flight. And a gaggle is when they’re on the ground, in

Marcia Smith 10:49
the right direction, okay, flying in the right direction in the right direction. Any group of birds, goats or sheep can be referred to as a flock.

Bob Smith 11:00
Goats can be referred to as a flock. Yeah, a flock of goats. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 11:03
but each feathered breed has its own title. Hawks, they travel and casts, quails are bevvies swans or herds, etc. But a group of geese is properly called a gaggle but only when it’s on the ground. So I was right. Well, no, you said when in the air No, I said a gaggle when they’re on the ground. Okay. Their flock when they’re in there? No, in the air. They are a skein? Oh, dear. Whoever heard of that. A skein? Yeah, we always have geese flying overhead here. And we always say look at the flock of geese. Yeah, no. S K. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like yarn. Again. skein of yarn. Yeah. Yeah, that’s just nuts.

Bob Smith 11:43
Okay. All right. Got another one?

Marcia Smith 11:45
Yes. How long is the longest snake ever to be discovered? The

Bob Smith 11:49
longest snake ever to be discovered? Uh huh. Whoa, is it a Python or

Marcia Smith 11:54
something like that? It is. It’s a reticulated python.

Bob Smith 11:58
Let me say it’s 25 feet long. Ooh, that’s long.

Marcia Smith 12:02
This is 32 feet and nine and a half. Oh,

Bob Smith 12:05
God was just scary enough. That’s creepy as convenient.

Marcia Smith 12:09
Think about how long that is. That’s like twice the length of this room. It’s amazing. And you find these lovely native creatures in South and Southeast Asia. You know how they smell Bob. How snakes smell?

Bob Smith 12:23
You mean? How they sense of smell or how they stink. Know how they can be. They have an aroma? Is that what you’re saying?

Marcia Smith 12:30
Good distinction, but yeah, I meant to say how do they actually smell through their eyes? Well close their tongue. Oh, really? Yeah. Those little tongues that that’s what they smell with their? You know, they’re all of us out there. Yeah. Targeting tongues? Yeah. snakes have limited hearing and eyesight compared to humans, but they make up for it with an incredible sense of smell down through their

Bob Smith 12:55
tongues. Yeah. Wow. All right, Marsha. We had a couple of import export questions on the show previously, and I got another one here. This is interesting, which US state of all States is the largest total exporter of goods. This date exports more things and any value than any other state born. Yeah, that’s what I would have thought that’s in second place. California has $156.1 billion in goods it exports

Marcia Smith 13:24
it Is it small state or a big state. It’s a big state like Texas, it is

Bob Smith 13:29
Texas. Texas is the top exporter of goods in the US by far. In 2020. The total value of Texas exports was 279 point 3 billion far greater than California. What are they export? Oil and gas for the most part, but they also export computer and electronic parts chemicals and transportation equipment, primarily aircraft also rank high. So these are the top eight state exporters. Texas, California, New York. The next comes Louisiana, Illinois, Florida, Ohio and Michigan. Hmm.

Marcia Smith 14:06
Okay. All right, Bob. You’ve heard of the expression second string? Yes. Like in football. It’s the backup people for the starters or first string? That’s correct. And they’re supposed to be the second best player in that position are just as good as our so

Bob Smith 14:21
where does the term second string come from?

Marcia Smith 14:24
You want to guess that see? Goes back to the mid evil day

Bob Smith 14:28
does it have to do with puppets? That’s my first question. That’s because I would think it would be a puppet, one of the strings and one of the strings would do Marionette Marionette one of the strings would hold the puppet. Then the second strings would be for the arms.

Marcia Smith 14:43
I want to say that’s it just because I love it but no.

Bob Smith 14:48
Okay. All right, is the second string something that is hidden that keeps the seam in place. The first string is the decorative string in a broidery or something like that. Thank you, I guess is what you’re saying. I Oh, you’re just Wrong Wrong Wrong, wrong, wrong, creative thoughts but

Marcia Smith 15:07
wrong. Yeah, they are creative.

Bob Smith 15:09
So this goes back to the Middle Ages. Yeah. So it has to do with some kind of clothing I would assume all sport. Tell me,

Marcia Smith 15:16
archers.

Bob Smith 15:17
Oh no kidding.

Marcia Smith 15:19
They always carried extra strings in case the one on their bowl broke. And the second string was expected to be as good as the first. Uh huh. And so that so that’s where it comes from, from the medieval archers, you know, you get things I hear in football all the time, and that who thinks of medieval

Bob Smith 15:37
legend back then there’s a commentator Oh, it looks as though Peter is reaching for his second stream.

Marcia Smith 15:43
will it perform? Will he get his title personally

Bob Smith 15:45
is good for the king as the last one was? Wow, that’s interesting quickie.

Marcia Smith 15:51
Which polar explorer Bob was the first to reach the South Pole and the first across the Northwest Passage. I’ll give you choices.

Bob Smith 16:01
And Hudson, was it? Sorry, go ahead. A little snort there. I like that. What’s

Marcia Smith 16:08
the yes it was? What’s his first name? Rob. Oh, for God’s sake. Yes, fine. Move on.

Bob Smith 16:14
All right. I guess it’s time for a break. Because I’ve upset Marcia, by being correct too many times. We’ll be back in just a moment. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and

Marcia Smith 16:23
Marsha Smith. Actually, I think that was your first right. That’s why I’m old. Thanks

Bob Smith 16:27
a lot.

Marcia Smith 16:28
That’s why I gave you the night.

Bob Smith 16:29
Let’s just go to a break. We’re back and we’re here with the off ramp. We do this every week for the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, which has an internet radio station, CPL radio and after it airs on that on Monday nights, it goes to podcast platforms all over the world all over the world. We invite you to visit us on our website, the off ramp dot show, and give us any thoughts you might have there about my ability versus Marsh’s. Her ability versus mine. Oh, maybe post some questions there to stump us with that’d be fun.

Marcia Smith 17:03
I have a shout out. Okay, I want to do a shout out to Paula Chandler in Appleton, Wisconsin. She’s 92 years old. Wow. You know what that means? We’ve got listeners from 10 to 92. Now that’s demographics. Great

Bob Smith 17:17
demographics. Yes. And they’re all great listeners to Paula Chandler. Thanks for listening. We hope you’re having a great day. Alright, Marcia, one more question here on imports and exports, okay. The US produces and uses more of this than any other country. What is it? I’ll give you some choices here. Oil cars, aircraft or corn. The US uses and produces more of this than any other country. Oil cars, aircraft or corn.

Marcia Smith 17:50
I would say oil. Alright. Corn, oil, oil and corn oil.

Bob Smith 17:55
It’s oily corn, Marsha. No, no, it’s not. It’s oil. It’s crude oil. Okay. It’s a major tradable commodity for many countries around the world, including the United States. But the US produces and consumes more oil than any other country even though the US produces the most oil. It’s not the top crude producer, as an exporter that Saudi Arabia we produce and use more of this than any other country. Yeah, a lot of countries produce it, but they don’t use as much of it. Okay, okay. All

Marcia Smith 18:25
right. One of the longest running festivals in the world has been taking place in China Bob for nearly 2000 years. What’s the English name for it? I’ll give you choices. Okay. Is it the dragon festival? The fireworks festival? Festival of fives or the Lunar New Year festival?

Bob Smith 18:44
And what was the question to this? This

Marcia Smith 18:46
festival has been running for 2000 years. Yes. The

Bob Smith 18:50
Lunar New Year festival, isn’t it?

Marcia Smith 18:51
I would have guessed that too. But no.

Bob Smith 18:53
All right. Is this a dragon festival? The Dragon Boat Festival dragon boat?

Marcia Smith 18:58
Can you China’s been doing that festival for 2000 years?

Bob Smith 19:03
Wow. That’s something that’s amazing. Yeah. Got another one? Yes. Okay.

Marcia Smith 19:07
How did a trophy become a symbol of victory? Oh,

Bob Smith 19:12
how did a trophy become a symbol of victory? Okay, now, some of the first a lot of the classic trophies are like cups. So I would assume that the first trophy given to a team somewhere in ancient times was a big cup of wine or something like that. So that was the how trophies kind of evolved. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 19:31
well, that’s much nicer than what really happened. Okay, it was a couple

Bob Smith 19:35
of blood or something like that. It’s

Marcia Smith 19:37
pretty gory. Oh dear, let’s just say Be thankful for the Lombardi trophy and Okay. After a victory on the battlefield, ancient Greeks would build a monument dedicated to a chosen God and they called the monument or trophy. They would just build a monument and other trophies were made of various limbs strip From the dead enemy soldiers,

Bob Smith 20:01
oh dear,

Marcia Smith 20:02
and then hung on a tree or a pillar,

Bob Smith 20:05
oh Ma.

Marcia Smith 20:05
So that was the trophy is

Bob Smith 20:07
made of a bag of bones just a bunch of bones,

Marcia Smith 20:09
well limbs hanging on a tree or a pillar and that was called a trophy. And that’s where the term came from.

Bob Smith 20:16
So then when people see a trophy and battle and they talk about cutting off an ear or something, that’s where it comes from.

Marcia Smith 20:23
Deer Some say it’s a ritual kept alive today by some modern trophy hunters who celebrate their victory over an animal by putting its head on the wall. Yeah,

Bob Smith 20:33
it makes sense that that’s where that term comes from. Yeah, their

Marcia Smith 20:36
trophy. Oh, my

Bob Smith 20:37
God. That said, Okay, well, that makes that it seems less diabolical to say the trophy of war then because that’s where the whole thing came from. Yeah. All right. All right, Marsha. I have a funny question here. All right. Why are the League of Extraordinary cities boring and dull?

Marcia Smith 20:57
What?

Bob Smith 20:58
The League of Extraordinary cities? Why is it boring and dull?

Marcia Smith 21:03
What is that a group? I don’t understand. The League of

Bob Smith 21:06
there is something called The League of Extraordinary cities that was formed in 2012. Why is it boring and dull? Because? Because that’s the name of the cities Marcia? It’s boring Oregon and dull Scotland. That’s funny. Think they live up to their names? No, they have terrific sense of humor. They joined forces as The League of Extraordinary cities in 2012 To celebrate the unofficial dull and boring day. That’s a huge draw a lot of tourists booms for their cities. So to make things even funnier bland, Australia join boring Oregon and dull Scotland. So now there’s a bland, dull and boring day on August 9. I like it. How did they all get these names doll’s name comes from a Gaelic word that means meadow. Okay, boring is named after Oregon resident William boring and bland. That’s named after William bland. He was a doctor, writer and political activist, and founder of the Australian Medical Association. Bland Australia has a sign saying bland far from dull and boring. Lis the the miles to the cities. That’s funny. I thought that’s funny. The League of Extraordinary cities. They’re boring, dull and bland. When you got names like that, you got to do something with

Marcia Smith 22:23
them. Okay, Bob here. So who am I? Oh,

Bob Smith 22:26
here we go. Again, a profile of a famous person of note, and I have to determine who it is or who it was,

Marcia Smith 22:32
what would I do without you to explain everything?

Bob Smith 22:36
Explaining means telling why Oh, go ahead. He

Marcia Smith 22:39
helped establish freedom of the press in the American colonies. He refused to reveal his sources for a story he published in his newspaper criticizing the British governor of New York. The British arrested him and put him in jail for criminal libel. His lawyer Andrew Hamilton argued that publishing the truth could not be libelous. And I love that today too. This is a famous famous case that handpick judges ordered the jury to find him guilty. But the jurors refused and delivered a verdict of not guilty.

Bob Smith 23:14
Was it John Peters anger. Now,

Marcia Smith 23:17
how did you know that? Yes, I

Bob Smith 23:19
was a journalism major at first, but I don’t remember. That’s a very famous case in the history of

Marcia Smith 23:25
journalism. Yes, yes. He lives 1697 to 1746. Yeah, that was a famous case and they found him not guilty. And

Bob Smith 23:34
you’re right and Andrew Hamilton apparently no relationship to Alexander Hamilton was an attorney from Philadelphia. So yeah, printing the truth. Yes. I like that big, big case in American history.

Marcia Smith 23:45
Thank God for that. And my end quote will refer to that. Sorry, thinking too. Okay, Marsha.

Bob Smith 23:50
Let’s talk about tea. There is a tea called da Hong Pao. It is the most expensive tea in the world. Oh, yeah. What in the world makes it so special? Is it the fermentation process? The fact that it has no caffeine? It’s because of silkworms being used to make it or is it because it’s made from plants that are 300 years old? Well, I’ll go with the last That is exactly right. Okay, what a weird thing. Yes, this rare tea is so expensive, largely because the leaves are harvested from plants. 300 years old. How can that be? I don’t know the tea can fetch more than 30 times its weight in gold. One gram of the T’s leaves costs $1,400. Many companies sell cheaper versions of DAC hung pow da H O N G. Pio, from newer tea plants cultivated in nearby locations and that’s a more affordable way of enjoying it. But the authentic tea is made from 300 year old plants. Once it’s gone, it’s gone.

Marcia Smith 24:53
They must obviously keep cultivating them. Yeah, I’d have to right. Do you have any thing else.

Bob Smith 25:00
I do have one more. Okay on a Monopoly board. Yes. Just to just to remember if the old games we threw out some actually we recycled some monopoly games and other games went to to a family sharing recently this week. Yeah, yeah. So on the Monopoly board what’s the most expensive property? Park Place? Park Place is at park place boardwalk bolting Avenue or Mediterranean Avenue. It’s

Marcia Smith 25:24
Oh, is it boardwalk or Park Place? Now? You

Bob Smith 25:26
got that’s the question mark. Fuller board

Marcia Smith 25:29
more. You’ll say it’s Park Place.

Bob Smith 25:32
Park Walker board place, Marcia. It’s Boardwalk. Okay. That’s what I said. Yeah, most of the most expensive properties are the dark blue monopoly properties. And on a standard board, they are Park Place which cost 350 boardwalk costs 400. That’s the most expensive property. Oh, wait, what are the prices again? Park Place is $350 Boardwalk is 400. Yeah, okay. And the houses and hotels cost $200 each? Wouldn’t be nice.

Marcia Smith 25:58
So you put all hotels on him on Boardwalk and you’re gonna win that game? That’s right. That’s right. Okay, I’m gonna finish off with a quote from Walter Cronkite.

Bob Smith 26:07
This is Walter Cronkite. Sorry. Like you had me go on there. Walter Cronkite, CBS News. Here’s Marsh’s Thought for the Day. Uncle

Marcia Smith 26:18
Walter says freedom of the press is not just important to democracy. It is democracy.

Bob Smith 26:25
Yes, that is true. That’s a good quote. That’s true.

Marcia Smith 26:27
And with all the misinformation today, I would just add truthful press is important. We

Bob Smith 26:33
have an interesting interview in the off ramp archives online if you want to go over that. And one of my bosses, my Radio Days interviewed Walter Cronkite. And it’s a whole thing about how he put the CBS Evening News together and all the facts and checks they made. It’s quite interesting. You can look that up online. We want to invite you if you have any questions or things you’d like to contribute, you can do so by going to our website, the off ramp dot show, and scrolling all the way down to contact us. There’s a box there you can leave us information. Okay, Uncle Walter uncle. This is Bob Smith, along with Marsha Smith. Hi, Bob Smith. Hi, Marcia Smith. Join us again next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp. But that’s the way it is.

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