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247 Haunted Trivia Encore

Whose ghost did Winston Churchill see in the White House? And what color is in almost every scene of the classic horror movie, The Shining? Hear The Off Ramp Podcast.

247 Haunted Trivia Encore

Bob and Marcia Smith discuss various trivia topics, including ghost sightings at the White House, where Winston Churchill saw Abraham Lincoln and other historical figures. They delve into the haunted Stanley Hotel in Colorado, which inspired Stephen King’s “The Shining.” They explore the eerie catacombs beneath Paris, which contain millions of skeletons. The conversation also covers the $58 million in loose change left on planes annually, the haunted Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia, and the first website, created by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN in 1991. Additionally, they touch on the most populated city, Tokyo, and the Forbidden City in China, known for its ghostly sightings.

Outline

Winston Churchill’s Ghostly Encounter

  • Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about the ghost Winston Churchill saw during his visit to the White House.
  • Marcia Smith reveals that Churchill saw Abraham Lincoln in the Lincoln Bedroom, which is the most haunted room in the White House.
  • Churchill reported seeing Lincoln by the fireplace, who greeted him with a cigar in hand.
  • Marcia mentions that the White House was renovated during the Harry Truman years, which might have affected the ghost sightings.

More Ghostly Figures in the White House

  • Marcia Smith shares that Abigail Adams, the first First Lady, is often seen in the East Room, where she used to hang her wash.
  • Dolly Madison is said to haunt the Rose Garden, causing two landscapers to abandon their task of moving it.
  • Harry Truman experienced strange occurrences, including knocks on the door and people in the hall, leading him to write to his wife that the White House was haunted.
  • Abraham and Mary Todd Lincoln’s sons are said to visit Mary at night, and Abe Lincoln’s ghost is frequently seen in the White House.

The Shining and Its Haunting Elements

  • Marcia Smith asks Bob Smith about the color in almost every scene of the movie The Shining.
  • Bob Smith guesses red, and Marcia confirms that red is used to symbolize Jack Nicholson’s deteriorating mental condition.
  • Bob Smith asks which haunted hotel inspired The Shining, and Marcia Smith reveals it is the Stanley Hotel in Colorado.
  • Stephen King was inspired to write The Shining after staying at the Stanley Hotel.

Loose Change on Airplanes and Haunted Catacombs

  • Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the amount of loose change left behind on airplanes each year, with Marcia guessing $58 million.
  • Marcia Smith reveals that Paris has haunted catacombs with millions of skeletons located 65 feet below the city.
  • The catacombs span nearly 200 miles underground, and visitors have reported eerie happenings and disturbing noises.

Elton John’s Pianos and State Quarters

  • Marcia Smith asks Bob Smith about Elton John’s pianos, and Bob guesses they are named after songs.
  • Marcia reveals that Elton John names his pianos after famous female singers and musicians, including Nina Simone, Diana Ross, and Aretha Franklin.
  • Bob Smith asks about the state quarter featuring a car, and Marcia Smith reveals it is Indiana, which features a race car.

The Most Haunted House in America

  • Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the most haunted house in America, with Marcia guessing the Winchester family house in California.
  • Marcia reveals that the White House is considered one of the most haunted houses in America.
  • Bob Smith asks about the most haunted Civil War battlefield, and Marcia Smith reveals it is Gettysburg.

Haunted Forsyth Park and Truman Capote’s First Choice

  • Bob Smith asks about the haunted Forsyth Park in Savannah, Georgia, and Marcia Smith confirms it is haunted.
  • Marcia Smith reveals that Truman Capote’s first choice to play Holly Go Lightly in Breakfast at Tiffany’s was Marilyn Monroe.
  • Marcia Smith shares that Marilyn Monroe did not get the part due to her reluctance to play a call girl.

Eastern State Penitentiary and Identical Twins

  • Bob Smith asks about the Eastern State Penitentiary, and Marcia Smith reveals it is in Philadelphia.
  • Marcia Smith shares a synchronicity about identical twins James Springer and James Lewis, who lived eerily similar lives before reuniting.
  • The twins had similar experiences, including marrying women named Linda and Betty and naming their sons James Allen.

Haunted House in Iceland and the First Website

  • Bob Smith asks about a haunted house in Iceland, and Marcia Smith reveals it hosted a 1976 meeting of world leaders.
  • Marcia Smith shares that the Hofti House in Iceland is known for its ghostly tales and strange sounds.
  • Bob Smith asks about the first website in the world, and Marcia Smith reveals it was created by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN.

The Forbidden City and Most Populated City

  • Bob Smith asks about the most populated city in the world, and Marcia Smith reveals it is Tokyo.
  • Marcia Smith shares that Tokyo’s metro area is estimated to have 37.7 million people.
  • Bob Smith asks about a haunted Chinese landmark, and Marcia Smith reveals it is the Forbidden City, where guards have reported seeing a woman in white.

Bob Smith 0:00
This episode of the off ramp is an encore performance of an earlier show whose ghost did Winston Churchill see during a visit to the White House?

Marcia Smith 0:10
Ooh and what color is in almost every scene of the classic horror movie The Shining

Bob Smith 0:18
Oh, I bet I know the answer to that, yeah, answers to those and other questions coming up next here on the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. You

Bob Smith 0:40
Music. Welcome to the off ramp. A chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy, take a side road to sanity and get some perspective on life. Okay, Marcia, it’s Halloween time, and so we have a question, based on that kind of thing, who’s ghost? Did Winston Churchill say he saw during his visit to the White House, one of his visits? I know this. Oh, you do. I’ll give you choices here, George Washington, Alexander, Hamilton, Abraham Lincoln, or that great traitor who defected to the English Benedict Arnold.

Marcia Smith 1:22
It was Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, he encountered Lincoln in the Lincoln Bedroom, which is the most haunted room in the White House. Oh, I didn’t know that. And he just stepped out of his bath, and, as he said, was wearing nothing but a cigar when he saw Lincoln by the fireplace. And he said, according to him, good morning, Mr. President, you seem to have me at a disadvantage. So

Speaker 1 1:47
you you had the same question. Oh, no kidding, so you have a lot more information than I had. Yeah, I just had that. He saw him lurking in the halls, but he actually saw him in the Lincoln in the Lincoln room too, yeah. And this is before they renovated the White House. Basically, during the Harry Truman years, they tore all the inside of the White House out and rebuilt it. Yeah, so this was the original house that was in there. Well,

Marcia Smith 2:09
wait, Churchill couldn’t have been there in the original house, yeah, because

Bob Smith 2:13
he was in there during Roosevelt’s administration. Okay, you have information on other ghosts in the White House? I

Marcia Smith 2:19
do. Bob, okay, okay. Abigail Adams the first, first lady to reside there. And according to some people, she still does, oh yeah, because the newly completed East Room was the warmest and driest in the building. Abigail used to hang her wash there. Can you imagine today’s first lady hanging wash in the White House? So she did her wash there, and many people have reported seeing her in or near the East Room in the two centuries since then, wow. And she’s often walking with her arms outstretched as though still carrying laundry. I didn’t know that. Now first lady dolly medicine apparently haunts the Rose Garden. Did you know that? You didn’t know that? Yes, I knew that was the case. And did you know the story about the two landscapers? No, okay, two landscapers were tasked, 100 years later, with moving the famous garden. Well, they were supposed to move it, yeah, but apparently they encountered Dolly’s angry ghost and abandoned their plan, and it remains in the same spot today. Wow. Harry Truman, one night, when wife was away, heard knocks on the door, people in the hall, all sorts of weird things. No kidding, yeah. And he wrote to his wife and said, quote, The damn place is haunted. Sure is shooting. Do

Bob Smith 3:37
you have any other names of other people? Okay,

Marcia Smith 3:39
Abraham and Mary Todd Lincoln lost sons while living in the White House, and Mary said she was frequently visited by her sons who stood at the end of her bed at night and talked to her Gosh. And the most famous ghost is Abe, who not only haunts the bedroom, but he walks the hallways and wraps on doors and stands by windows. Oh, no kidding, yeah. And they say, and often he appears more when the country is in turmoil. Okay, well,

Bob Smith 4:07
he could help. I think of anybody, my goodness, what a wonderful man. I have two other names of people who supposedly are seen in the White House, okay? Andrew Jackson is frequently seen laughing. Oh, really, yeah. And Thomas Jefferson playing the violin in the Oval Room, really? Yeah. Oh,

Marcia Smith 4:25
that’s cool, yeah. Do you know how many, what percentage of Americans believe in ghosts? 46% of Americans believe in ghosts. But you know, we’re talking about Harry Truman, Abraham, Lincoln, Winston, sharp, Joe, these are people, people with credibility. That’s right, saying they’ve seen ghosts, not just you and me,

Bob Smith 4:43
all right? Those are some good ghost and haunted questions. It’s

Marcia Smith 4:46
so funny. So we overlapped totally different sources, but the same it’s a good question about ghosts. It is sightings. And we have friends who have

Bob Smith 4:55
equipment, and they go do paranormal sightings of ghosts, right? Yes, all

Marcia Smith 5:00
right, Bob, what color is in almost every scene of the shining I’ll bet

Bob Smith 5:06
it’s red. I’ll bet it’s red for blood. What is it? Yes,

Marcia Smith 5:12
maybe. Okay, this 1980s Stanley Kubrick horror classic has the color red in almost every scene, some of the appearances are obvious, like that famous scene of blood pouring out of the elevator. Did you ever make it through that film? No, I never did. I didn’t think so, the red walled men’s room where Jack Nicholson freshens up. But many are quite subtle, like the darts that young Danny Lloyd plays with are red. The book placed on the table in the opening scene is read, and the dress that Wendy Shelley Duvall wears is red.

Bob Smith 5:49
No, that was just too creepy for me. Some of those movies they get, I could just tell. They just start getting creepy, and then I get out of them,

Marcia Smith 5:56
yeah, according to one analysis, the inclusion of the scarlet hue is meant to be a visual nod to Jack’s deteriorating mental condition as the Overlook Hotel takes hold of him. Okay,

Bob Smith 6:08
now I have a question on that same movie. So what haunted hotel inspired the shining the plaza in New York City, the Biltmore in North Carolina, the Stanley Hotel in Colorado, or the Old Faithful Inn at Yellowstone National Park. I’ll say the Stanley that’s it, yeah, the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado. He stayed there and oh, he COVID,

Marcia Smith 6:32
no? Stephen King, Oh, really. Oh, yeah, that’s right, of

Bob Smith 6:35
course. So he was inspired to write the 1977 horror novel, The shining from there. So it’s a 113 year old hotel. They have a history of ghost sightings, and they offer spirited night tours to catch a glimpse of their alleged paranormal guests. Oh,

Marcia Smith 6:50
fun. All right, Bob, according to the FAA, approximately how much in loose change is left behind on airplanes each year. Give me a ballpark loose change,

Bob Smith 7:02
yeah. Oh, this doesn’t even count the luggage or anything.

Marcia Smith 7:05
This is loose change on the on the actual airplane. Okay,

Bob Smith 7:09
okay, give me a moment here. How many planes there are, how many flights there are, how much loose change there might be, let’s say $350,000

Marcia Smith 7:20
amusing. Bob,

Bob Smith 7:21
not enough. Oh, you’re

Marcia Smith 7:22
so close, though. Okay, 58 million.

Bob Smith 7:25
You’re kidding. 58 million is left on planes in petty, petty cash, yes,

Marcia Smith 7:30
oh, my god, huh. And it makes sense when you remember how many people are often in the air at any given time in an average year, the Federal Aviation Administration handles more than 16 million flights,

Bob Smith 7:43
$58 million yeah, that’s just unbelievable. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 7:47
I couldn’t fathom that myself. Okay,

Speaker 1 7:48
I have a question on haunted catacombs. Okay, haunted catacombs lie beneath which of these European cities, Oslo, Paris, Milan, or Barcelona,

Unknown Speaker 8:02
Paris. Paris.

Bob Smith 8:03
How many people did they think are down there in the catacombs? How many skeletons? 1000s more than that, millions located 65 feet below Paris is a mass grave containing about 6 million skeletons. Oh, my God. Well, they were moved there from overcrowded cemeteries during the 18th century, and today, the catacombs span nearly 200 miles. 200 miles underground. Yeah, only a portion, a small portion, are available for public tours, but visitors have reported eerie happenings and disturbing noses noises, noses or noses disturbing

Marcia Smith 8:40
No, all right, Bob, who does Elton John, name his pianos after

Bob Smith 8:47
he names his pianos? Yes, he calls him Freddie,

Marcia Smith 8:50
Joe. You name your microphones. Elton names my microphones. You’re very close. You’re very close. You talk to them.

Bob Smith 8:58
They feel my breath. No, I don’t know that. I know the answers to this. Does he name his pianos after songs? No, that

Marcia Smith 9:07
would be a good guess. He names them after famous female singers and musician, huh? John has christened pianos after Nina Simone, Diana, crawl, Aretha Franklin, American jazz singer, Blossom, dearie and Trinidadian pianist, winterfred Atwell,

Bob Smith 9:23
wow, he names his pianos after these people, yeah, okay, well, that’s interesting. I thought you were gonna tell me he named him after his cats or something. This is better, yeah? This is better. Good, okay? Marcia, you know, every coin has a state on it these days, or there is a whole series of coins with the states on them. Correct? What state features a car on its state quarter? Is it? Michigan? I was going to give you some choices, okay, California, Michigan, Massachusetts or Indiana? Michigan, Michigan, that makes sense. That would be the logical choice. No, it’s not. What is it? Okay, which of the other states, California, Massachusetts or Indiana?

Marcia Smith 10:04
Indiana? Why? Because it’s near Michigan.

Bob Smith 10:09
I don’t see now, the answer to this makes the most sense, and we wouldn’t think of it because of the Indianapolis 500 Oh, yeah. Okay, so even though the automobile started in Massachusetts, in this country, with the Duryea brothers, and of course, found its wheels in Detroit with four GM and Chrysler. You won’t find a car on the flip side of those two states quarters, but you will on Indiana State quarter, which features a race car imposed on an outline of the state plus 19 stars celebrating Indiana as the 19th state to enter the Union. So it’s perfect sets the Indianapolis 500 the global racing event that’s been going on for more than 110 years, has it really? Yeah, since 1911 and

Marcia Smith 10:50
cars had only been around a few years, and they first thing they did was racing, which makes sense, right?

Bob Smith 10:55
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, cars were around in the 1890s so Okay,

Marcia Smith 10:59
before we go to break Bob, what’s considered the most haunted house in America.

Bob Smith 11:04
I think it’s that one out in California that the Winchester family. It wasn’t at the Winchester she kept building on the house. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 11:13
that certainly is one of them. But apparently this one is so that’s not the right answer. Well, not in this group of

Bob Smith 11:19
not in your universe, okay, what’s the answer? Ah, well, give me a clue.

Marcia Smith 11:25
We just talked about it. What use your use your memory bank at the Stanley Hotel, Colorado, your short term memory, it’s the White House. Oh, really, it’s considered one of the most famous haunted houses in America.

Bob Smith 11:40
All right, well, what, what Civil War battlefield is said to be the most? Oh,

Marcia Smith 11:45
it’s got to be that one. I haven’t been there. I think you have, or you want to be there. It’s the one. Let

Bob Smith 11:53
me give you choices here. Oh, yes, dear fort, Sumter, Manassas, Gettysburg, or Harpers, Ferry.

Marcia Smith 12:01
It’s not Gettysburg. It is. It is, of course, it is Gettysburg. And

Bob Smith 12:05
yes, I have been there, and one of my ancestors was shot there. So yes, the place, no, no, he survived Civil War. Battlefields. They all have their share of ghost stories, but Gettysburg is regarded as the most haunted in America. It was the one of the bloodiest battles of the war, and many ghosts have been captured on camera there, including the likeness of Robert E Lee.

Marcia Smith 12:26
Really do they just float around there? Or what do they do? They

Bob Smith 12:30
say they hear cries for wounded soldiers. They see life like shadows lurking and maybe some images once in a while. Oh, I

Marcia Smith 12:38
don’t really care to go there. We want to go again. We don’t

Bob Smith 12:42
have to go there at night March. We could go there during the morning. That would be better with coffee. Okay? With coffee, all right, let’s take a break. Okay, you’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and a Danish and Marsha and a Danish. Marsha Smith, you have, you do have Danish blood, don’t you? Coffee

Marcia Smith 12:57
and a Danish. I meant sweet roll.

Bob Smith 13:00
Oh, well, you’re the sweet roll.

Marcia Smith 13:01
Oh, that’s very nice. Yeah,

Bob Smith 13:03
or, or is it okay? We’ll be back in just a moment. We’re back after discussing breakfast rolls. And I don’t know if that was the sweetest thing to say about Marcia, but she is a sweet

Marcia Smith 13:14
coffee and bakery at the Danish bird.

Bob Smith 13:18
Okay, in what southern city will you find the allegedly haunted Forsyth Park. Now this is a place we’ve visited. It’s been famous as a setting for a famous novel. What famous city do you find the allegedly haunted Savannah? That’s it. Savannah, Georgia. I was going to give you choices, but apparently you don’t need those. Okay, yeah, built in the 1840s it’s known for its famous fountain and a popular starting point for many southern tours of Savannah. Haunted inns and former hospitals surround the park, lending in eerie air Forsyth Park in Savannah, okay,

Marcia Smith 13:53
all right. Bob, who was Truman Capote’s first choice to play how they go, likely in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.

Bob Smith 14:01
His first choice, yeah, his first choice wouldn’t be Marilyn Monroe. Was it?

Unknown Speaker 14:06
It was,

Unknown Speaker 14:06
Oh, okay.

Marcia Smith 14:07
Why did you say that? Well, that she was an

Bob Smith 14:09
actress about that time, and I could see him, he liked people like that, and I could see her being that, that choice for that role. They

Marcia Smith 14:16
were good buddies, who knew, Oh No kidding, Truman and Marilyn Monroe. She had a thing for older, very smart men, as she told Shelly winters what she wanted to go to bed with. Albert Einstein anyway, yeah. So Marilyn Monroe, he chose her to play Holly go lightly and a lot of her backstory, Holly’s mimicked Monroe’s own troubled background. Oh, really, yeah. So that was interesting, but Paula Strasberg, her drama coach, said there’s no way she will play that girl, Marilyn Monroe will not play. A call girl, a lady of the evening. See, I

Bob Smith 14:51
never thought of that. Holly go lately as a lady of the evening. How stupid was that? Maybe we were too young when we saw that.

Marcia Smith 14:57
Yeah, that could be I. It never occurred to me she was. But if it was very subtle, I know she was dating occasionally, but I didn’t understand the big giving it all up, or why she was crying. She was a she was a sweet girl, yeah, well, she was the original Pretty Woman, wasn’t she? Yes, yes. So, yeah, so, but she didn’t get the part, and God knows, so it made a big splash for Hepburn.

Speaker 1 15:21
Hepburn, Audrey. Audrey, good, yeah, not, not Catherine, no. Okay, I’ve got more ghost stuff here, and I want to give credit here. A lot of my material today comes from a website called Travel quiz.com lot of great stuff there. Okay, so this place is known for its ghosts. Where is it? It’s the Eastern State Penitentiary. What is it and where is it? Where is the Eastern State Penitentiary? New York City, Philadelphia, Atlanta or San Francisco.

Marcia Smith 15:51
But San Francisco isn’t east. It’s

Bob Smith 15:53
kind of a giveaway, isn’t it? It’s not that one. What about the

Marcia Smith 15:59
boy? Are you a little nerd sometimes,

Bob Smith 16:01
okay, New York City, Philadelphia or Atlanta. What about those three? Philadelphia?

Marcia Smith 16:05
You’re

Bob Smith 16:06
right. It’s interesting. It is the original Modern penitentiary, but it’s in ruins today. In fact, its website says it stands in ruin, a haunted world of crumbling cell blocks and empty guard towers, and it’s only five blocks from Philadelphia Museum of Art, where rocky stood up there, and it’s only five blocks away, but it held Al Capone, Scarface slick Willie and a number of other people, but it was the world’s first true penitentiary, a prison designed to inspire pentanence, oh, or true regrets. Oh, I never thought of Yeah, that’s the idea connection in the hearts of prisoners. Oh

Marcia Smith 16:42
no, it just made him more angry. Yeah. So anyway,

Bob Smith 16:45
it’s, uh, supposedly very haunted, and there are nightly ghost tours.

Marcia Smith 16:49
Philadelphia has a lot of interesting back stories, doesn’t? Yeah,

Bob Smith 16:53
it does the revolution and everything else, yeah, too, yeah. I’ve never been there Franklin. Oh, well, I’ve to take you there sometime. Feel

Marcia Smith 16:59
free. Okay, here, let’s go now. Here’s just drop this and let’s get going. Here’s interesting. Here’s the here’s some you want to do the show. Here’s some interesting synchronicities. Okay, from my strange but true file, Oh, didn’t know I had one. Did you know I didn’t, I don’t. Okay? James Springer and James Lewis were identical twins who went their separate ways as infants through adoption, yet they went on to live eerily similar lives before reuniting again at age 39 each grew up with a brother named Larry. They each had a pet dog named toy, went into law enforcement and named his first born son, James Allen. They did the same thing, yeah, with slightly different spellings, but they both named their son James Allen. So now are these were twins identical and given up for adoption? Wow. Okay, and even if you chalk up some of those matches to genetic disposition, it doesn’t quite explain how each twin somehow married a woman named Linda before following with a second wife named Betty, good lord, or how both settled on the same vacation spot at a small beach in St Petersburg, Florida, more than 1000 miles away from where they were, separately reared in Ohio,

Bob Smith 18:14
separately reared in the same state, and then they spent st that’s so many things. Isn’t that bizarre? That is amazing. Yeah, well, I’ve heard that about, you know, twins, they always communicate, seem to do the same thing.

Marcia Smith 18:25
Wives, they’re first and second wives with the same name. Is that, because one

Bob Smith 18:28
of them got divorced, I guess it’s time to get divorced now, then, just like talking about now, I met a woman named Betty. You don’t have a girlfriend? Well, I’ll find one that seems to be the name I need.

Marcia Smith 18:39
And then they name their dog toy. I mean, that’s not a what the hell that makes no sense. Well, this

Bob Smith 18:45
is the kind of thing that you’ve put it into a movie. And they go, nah. Nobody believed that James

Marcia Smith 18:50
Springer and James Lewis, wow. Okay,

Bob Smith 18:53
all right. Marcia, a haunted house in what country hosted a 1976 meeting of world leaders. Was it?

Marcia Smith 19:04
Were we there? No, okay, then that’s not it. Remember a haunted

Bob Smith 19:09
house in what country hosted a 1976

Marcia Smith 19:13
meeting? Is it in Transylvania? No,

Bob Smith 19:16
I don’t know where Iceland. Oh, yeah, in 1986 Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev met at Iceland’s most notorious haunted house, the hofti house, built in 1909 they met there to discuss a possible resolution to the Cold War. But the site is also known for its ghostly tales and strange sounds heard at night. It’s said that a former resident of the House who poisoned herself still haunts the hall.

Marcia Smith 19:40
Stu Ronald, Reagan,

Speaker 2 19:43
I heard a lot of things last night, you know, knocking on the walls. Gorby, I thought it was you. You wanted to talk open the door. Nobody was here. Gorbachev and Reagan. Not even Nancy was there.

Marcia Smith 19:56
It’s kind of scary, isn’t it? Ronnie, yeah, he and he and Gorbachev. Fauci were pretty good friends and respected

Bob Smith 20:02
each other. They hit it off after the first couple of cold visits. Yeah, a couple of cold yeah.

Marcia Smith 20:06
That really was an amazing relationship. Okay, Bob, who had the very first website in the world, who

Bob Smith 20:15
had the very first website in the world? Well, now I thought that would have been, I’m thinking of Mark Andreessen, because he came up with Netscape when he was working at the University of Illinois, and then he, you know, built that mosaic. Was the name of

Marcia Smith 20:29
it. You can name the person, which would be hard, or the organization.

Bob Smith 20:32
The organization was Ripley’s, believe it or not. No, I don’t know who. Yeah, I

Marcia Smith 20:39
found this pretty interesting. It was the European Organization for Nuclear Research known as CERN. Okay,

Bob Smith 20:45
I knew CERN was Tim Brenner is the guy who Tim Berners Lee, that was his name.

Marcia Smith 20:50
Boy, you are awesome. How do you remember that Berners Lee? Yes, and CERN is now known for the Super Collider, right then, that’s what they’re known for. But much like in 1969 that’s when the first internet connection was established between Stanford University and UCLA, and it was created for sharing information between scientists working in universities and institutes around the world, which makes great sense. And as a computer scientist at CERN Berners Lee, I can’t believe you knew who that was. Submitted an early proposal for Information Management outlining what would eventually become the World Wide Web. I

Bob Smith 21:31
knew that. I knew he was very early involved in the world wide web. The first

Marcia Smith 21:34
it took him two years, but he released the first website. August 6, 1991 1991 that was the first website in the world.

Bob Smith 21:43
So the first connection between universities was 69 between Stanford and UCLA. But it took that long, 69 to 90 before

Marcia Smith 21:53
somebody came up with the idea for a website. Wow. And less than two years later, this is cool. CERN released the software into the public domain, and the World Wide Web took off, so they just gave it away. And in 2013 CERN launched a program dedicated to preserving the world’s first website. And you can find it@info.cern.ch

Bob Smith 22:18
Have you ever heard of the Wayback Machine?

Marcia Smith 22:19
I’ve heard of it, but I forget what it is. Well,

Bob Smith 22:22
that was a term that was used in Bullwinkle and rocky that was a way back. Yeah, he got in the Wayback Machine. It was a time travel. But the Wayback Machine is the name the Internet Archive uses. That’s an organization in San Francisco. They’ve gone out and they try to capture every website in the world and take a picture of that site. And I found websites I build out there for Rockwell and Alan Bradley that. So it’s kind of neat you get to go out and see portions of your sites that you built way back in. These were in the mid 90s. How

Marcia Smith 22:52
many websites do you think there are now? Oh, my millions.

Bob Smith 22:56
Let’s say 500 million sites. How about 2 billion? Websites, and

Marcia Smith 23:01
it’s estimated projections that in 2050 the websites will number 37 petabytes. Geez, you know what a petabyte is? It is a huge amount of data. It’s it’s a massive unit of data equal to 1 million

Bob Smith 23:16
gigabytes. That’s a few more than I have. I guess my closing in on it, though I was thinking of the 500 million number, I think that’s how many podcasts there are now. Yeah, yeah, lots a lot of

Marcia Smith 23:27
podcasts. Yes. But okay, so in that short time, 1991 to 2022, went from one to 2 billion. It

Speaker 1 23:34
went from one website to 2 billion websites. Yeah, just amazing, yep. Okay, I think I have one more haunted question here. Okay, this is a famous landmark in China, and I never thought of it being haunted before. So I’m gonna give you these names, Which one, which famous Chinese landmark is haunted by the ghost of a woman in white, the Summer Palace, the Shanghai Tower, the Forbidden City, or the Yu Garden,

Marcia Smith 24:01
I will say the Forbidden City. It

Bob Smith 24:03
is, yeah, the Forbidden City which nobody could go into for so many years. You know? Yeah, it’s a tourist attraction now built in the 15th century as the Royal Palace, a royal palace starting in the 1940s guards reported seeing the ghost of a woman dressed in white weeping around the grounds of the palace complex at night. Really,

Marcia Smith 24:26
we gotta send Bob Joe there with their machine. Okay, what is the most populated city in the world?

Bob Smith 24:32
The most populated city in the world, in the world? Well, now that keeps changing. It was Mexico City at one there’s nothing close to this is probably in China. No, gonna give me any choices? No. Oh, well, great. Thanks for all your help.

Unknown Speaker 24:48
All right, what’s

Bob Smith 24:49
the answer? Marsh Tokyo. Tokyo is the world’s largest Yes.

Marcia Smith 24:53
Its metro area is estimated to be an astounding 37 point 7 million. And people,

Bob Smith 25:00
God, and that’s just one city on that island. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 25:03
it’s amazing. Its

Marcia Smith 25:04
population is almost equivalent to the total sum of the 25 most populated cities in the US, which adds up to 37 point 8 million. Yeah,

Bob Smith 25:15
ours are pretty small these days. Okay? And one other question, totally unrelated to all the rest, okay, this artist painted one of the most famous posters in the United States history and used himself as the model. What was the poster? One of the most famous posters in US history would be, was that Andy Warhol earlier in that century, earlier in the 20th century? Okay,

Marcia Smith 25:37
okay, okay, okay, I don’t know. Oh, my God. So

Bob Smith 25:40
long the Uncle Sam. I Want You poster. Okay, that was recruitment poster for the US Army for World War One and 40 year old New York illustrator James Montgomery flag used his own face as a model for the stern face of Uncle Sam and the army distributed 4 million copies of the poster in its first year, 1917,

Marcia Smith 26:04
huh. Very interesting. And just I have a little factoid. Did you know A misheard song lyric has a name? Did you know that?

Bob Smith 26:11
No,

Marcia Smith 26:12
it’s called monda green.

Bob Smith 26:14
That’s the name for Miss heard song lyrics.

Marcia Smith 26:16
If you’ve confused taking care of business with making carrot biscuits.

Unknown Speaker 26:22
Never heard of that one

Marcia Smith 26:23
or Benny in the jets with Betty in a dress you’ve been tricked by a monde green. As Merriam Webster explains, this phenomenon occurs when a word or phrase results from mishearing of something said or sung. My

Bob Smith 26:38
favorite of those, and I saw it first in the dormitory, in a girl’s dorm. Oh, really, in the Northern Illinois University back in the 70s, that was the Jimi Hendrix excuse me while I kiss this guy instead of excuse me while I kiss the sky. And I thought, How appropriate for a girl’s dorm? Yeah, yeah,

Marcia Smith 26:56
that is cute. All right, I’m going to finish with a quote that goes out to you, Bob, oh, thank you. You’re welcome. Thank

Unknown Speaker 27:04
you very much. It’s

Marcia Smith 27:05
by a fellow called Lou Lehre. He said, Never brag about your ancestors coming over on the Mayflower. The immigration laws weren’t as strict in those days.

Bob Smith 27:16
That’s true. There were no immigration laws on the Mayflower, all right. Is that it?

Unknown Speaker 27:21
It is okay. I

Bob Smith 27:22
think that’s it for today. We’ve covered a lot of ground. Hauntings, artists who didn’t have a model and used their own face, and then songs whose lyrics got totally mixed up in people’s minds. Yeah, that was good. And

Marcia Smith 27:35
twins who married only women with the same That’s right.

Bob Smith 27:39
That’s it for today. I’m Bob Smith. I’m

Marcia Smith 27:41
Marcia Smith, you’ve

Bob Smith 27:42
been listening to the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarburg Public Library, Cedarburg, Wisconsin. Bob.

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