255 Encore – More Christmas Trivia

Bob Smith 0:00
What famous Christmas movie was originally released in the summer. People didn’t realize it had a Christmas plot until they saw it on the silver screen.

Marcia Smith 0:08
What is the oldest Yuletide beverage? Answers

Bob Smith 0:12
to those and other holiday questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. You Music.

Welcome to the off ramp. A chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. And we’ve got some real good holiday questions coming up today. I think this is a good one. Marcia, what famous Christmas movie was originally released in the summer? Well, that wasn’t like, it’s not die hard, is it? No, no, that’s not a Christmas movie. I know people call it a Christmas Well, it’s a movie that took place at Christmas. Yes, yes,

Marcia Smith 1:03
that’s right. So people bring it out at Christmas. This is

Bob Smith 1:07
a classic Christmas movie that’s been around for more than a half a century. Okay, then I don’t know. Okay, I’ll give you choices here. Scrooged, elf, remember the night or Miracle on 34th Street? Scrooged, no, believe it or not, it was Miracle on 34th

Marcia Smith 1:23
Street. What that was released in the summer? I know

Bob Smith 1:27
what a weird story. Darrell F Zanuck was the studio head. He insisted this movie be released in May. He said, more people go to the movies in warmer weather. So the studio promoted it, but keeping its Christmas setting a secret. Fox’s promotional trailer depicted a fictional producer roaming the studio back lot, encountering stars like Rex Harrison and Anne Baxter and piggy Ann Garner and Dick haymes, and asking them about this movie. And they said, Oh, that’s a great film. It’s a great film. They didn’t reveal what the film was about, so people didn’t know what it was until they went to the movies. Is that the one with Natalie Wood? And yes, this is the Kris Kringle store. Yeah, yeah. The movie posters featured O’Hara and John Payne, but it didn’t have Edwin gwynn’s Kris Kringle in the front. Now, the film opened at the Roxy Theater in New York, June, 1947 I’ll be darned, I think there’d be some people they’re like, what this is a Christmas film. But it turned out to be one of the best Christmas movies ever.

Marcia Smith 2:28
Did it get a big following then? Did people watch it? Oh yeah. It became a huge

Bob Smith 2:32
hit. And of course, today all the video packaging is Edmund Gwynn as as Santa Claus and Natalie Wood dominating the imagery, but originally it was released as a summer movie, because that’s when people went to the theater. Well, you’ve got a holiday question there. Marcia, what is it I

Marcia Smith 2:50
do? What is the oldest Yuletide beverage? And it’s still consumed today. People have it every Christmas. They don’t have it other times. But what do you think that might be that goes back to Roman times. Rum and

Bob Smith 3:03
Coke, no, okay, but it’s hot buttered rum.

Marcia Smith 3:08
Oh, that sounds good. I had one the other night. But no, that’s not it. Okay. Think about it. It’s something our boy always wants in the refrigerator when he comes home for Christmas. Eggnog, that’s it. The oldest Yuletide beverage, many food historians believe modern eggnog is a descendant of something called posit. Did you ever hear that? No, ss, e, t, it’s a milky Ale, like drink served warm in medieval Britain. By the 13th century, posit had become popular among monks and was used in celebrations and toasts as a nod to good health and prosperity, since it contains Sherry, milk and eggs, all foods eaten only by the wealthy and the monks, apparently, Sherry was eventually swapped out for rum in the American colonies. So you’re you were on the rum track there. Okay, though some early versions, like George Washington’s personal recipe included bourbon whiskey instead you’d like that. So you add the poison and add the eggnog, which is always in our refrigerator at Christmas. So how

Bob Smith 4:15
does it go back to the Roman times

Marcia Smith 4:17
they used to drink past it? Oh, okay, it’s milky ale drink. During the medieval Britain, it was something they made, and it just carried over, and then they started adding milk and eggs and Sherry. But it goes back to medieval times. That’s

Bob Smith 4:33
interesting. It’s interesting. We always know the origins of alcoholic based things, but not necessarily other things. Isn’t that interesting. It shows you what we value

Marcia Smith 4:42
as people, the hierarchy of needs. Okay, well, I got some

Bob Smith 4:46
interesting things here. Marcia, about Christmas songs. Okay, okay, I’m talking pop music songs. Now, most of us know White Christmas was written by a famous Jewish composer, Irving Berlin. Irving Berlin, but how many of. Other pop Christmas tunes were written by Jewish people, a lot of them, okay, four more, six more, 10 more. Oh, gosh, oh my gosh. So White Christmas, we know, was written by a man who’s Jewish, yeah, but four, six or 10 more,

Marcia Smith 5:15
and some of the best songs, like were sung by Jewish people too, like Barbara Streisand, she’s saying, had Christmas albums so many people

Bob Smith 5:22
who wrote them? I’m saying yes, I know four, six or 10 more. Please answer 10. You’re exactly right. I will be reading you the titles of 11 songs in this podcast, and they were all written by Jewish people. So Irving Berlin, of course, wrote White Christmas. And his daughter said she thought it was her father’s gratitude for America, the country that bought his family out of poverty, that fostered his appreciation for Christmas, and it was almost a patriotic thing to write that song, okay? Another tune, chestnuts roasting over an open fire, the Christmas song. Mel Torme wrote it. I know he was Jewish. Yeah. He grew up on the south side of Chicago in a working class Jewish family, and he collaborated with Robert wells. They wrote the Christmas song in 1946 and of course, it was who was the big person who had that as a hit? Nat King Cole. Nat King Cole, yeah. Okay, more Christmas songs coming up. Okay,

Marcia Smith 6:15
I thought you were gonna name 10 of them. I will. I’ve given you two of them so far. Okay, so why are the traditional colors of Christmas red and green?

Bob Smith 6:24
Yeah, why are they red and green? That’s a good question. Well, I always thought green meant, you know, growth and, you know, life, things like that. Red, though that’s a good question. Why was red in there? I don’t know why. What’s the answer? Well,

Marcia Smith 6:39
different people have appropriated it for different reasons or religions, but Country Living Magazine did a deep dive into the original color scheme choice, and it goes back to, of course, centuries, to the winter solstice and the Celtic people who believe that green and red Holly plants brought beauty and good fortune in the middle of winter, okay? So come 21st of December, they’d bring in the holly plants for good luck and good fortune. And as such, they regularly decorated their homes with the red and green plants as a way to promote a prosperous new year. Okay? And over time, the habit of red and green decorations became a passed down winter tradition across the world

Bob Smith 7:22
that makes sense, yeah, yeah, okay, and then natural plants

Marcia Smith 7:26
too, yeah, just brighten up. Anything to brighten it up. What do you got?

Bob Smith 7:31
All right, what Christmas song was erroneously attributed to such famous composers as Beethoven, Mozart and Haydn, because nobody for sure knew who wrote it, and it was always this rumor that, oh, one of these great composers. Was it the Hallelujah chorus?

Marcia Smith 7:47
Was it Mendels? No, very simple song, very simple song, Silent

Bob Smith 7:53
Night. That’s it. Yeah. It wasn’t really until the 1990s that they were able to prove that, because they found an 1820 document, a manuscript of Silent Night written in the handwriting of Joseph Moore, who was one of the writers. He was the guy who wrote it because the organ broke down and the whole thing, yeah. And he and his friend, who was also a composer. They were both Austrian priests and people in a very small village, alpine village. They sang it as a duet with a guitar one night in 18, 1816,

Marcia Smith 8:22
Wasn’t there something about the piano tuner came? And yes, saying it, what story

Bob Smith 8:27
tuner came, he liked it, and he took it with him, and then it eventually was heard by one of the great rulers, and that was played at the court. Yeah, you know, though it’s interesting the term silent night. It was written because they just gone through 12 years of the Napoleonic Wars.

Marcia Smith 8:42
Oh geez, no, I didn’t make that connection.

Bob Smith 8:45
And then the Indonesian volcano, Mount Tambora erupted, and that caused the year with no summer, because it was even snowing in the summer. The skies were cloudy for the whole year

Marcia Smith 8:55
was snowing. You mean, like flakes from the volcano, or what? It

Bob Smith 8:58
actually snowed because the weather was so out of whack that really so silent. Night was all about God. Is there? God is taking care of us. It’s quiet. At least it’s quiet. Jeez, yeah, that was a poem to convey hope that there was still a God who cared. That’s interesting.

Marcia Smith 9:13
You know, when times are bad, like right now, things aren’t great in the world, you think, oh, has it ever been like this? Oh, yeah, there’s been a lot worse. Yeah,

Bob Smith 9:21
I’ve got a couple of holiday questions about holiday windows. You know, Windows and stores, okay, yeah, New York City has four famous stores that continue to create holiday window displays. Oh, good Macy’s, Bergdorf, Goodman, Bloomingdale’s and Saks, Fifth Avenue. But which originated the first holiday window.

Marcia Smith 9:41
Gosh, which one is the oldest? I don’t know if Macy’s goes back. I know that parade goes way back, but I Well, what was the first? I’ll just say Bloomingdale’s.

Bob Smith 9:53
No, it is Macy’s. Yes. Roland, Hussey, Macy senior, who is the founder. Director of Macy’s department store, he’s believed to have unveiled the very first Christmas themed display window in 1874 now, by that, I mean they didn’t use merchandise. They’re trying to create some kind of experience for people. Magical thing. Yes, just as today’s window displays reflect current pop culture, what was the first holiday window display doing what pop culture did it reflect

Marcia Smith 10:24
elves and Santa’s like, yeah, like

Bob Smith 10:26
Bloomingdale’s recently teamed with Warner Brothers to create scenes from the film Wonka, about young Willy Wonka. So, yeah, that’s their holiday window display. So in 1874 what was the first Macy’s holiday window display featuring I

Marcia Smith 10:41
would just think it was Santa and his workshop elves. I would think so too. But no, no,

Bob Smith 10:45
it was a collection of porcelain dolls depicting scenes from Harriet Beecher Stowe, Uncle Tom’s Cabin. No kidding. Wow. Now that was the most famous runaway success novel of the 19th century, and the connection to Christmas was the fact that the slave Tom never abandoned his Christian values despite his life of slavery. And then in 1883 Macy’s added animation with the circular track depicting Santa being pulled by a reindeer. So they came out with the beginning of this whole stuff, I

Marcia Smith 11:15
tell you, windows, department store windows, were a big part of my childhood. My mom and I would go downtown on the bus and go to look at all the window displays, and that was fabulous.

Bob Smith 11:26
1874 was the first one. That was Macy’s. That’s the answer. I

Marcia Smith 11:30
wasn’t there, but I

Bob Smith 11:32
was it was you and your mother weren’t there. Then, okay,

Marcia Smith 11:34
later, okay, Bob, why do we say that the person in charge is calling the shots

Bob Smith 11:41
that must have a military connotation. Maybe it was the the leader or the commander in the field. He’s calling the shots. He’s telling when to when to fire the cannon, when to fire the guns. So I think that’s where it came from.

Marcia Smith 11:54
Yeah, yeah, good guess. But nah, nah, oh, really, not at all. The expression comes from a form of billiards. In the game of straight pool, the person shooting is required to specify both the ball they intend to hit and the pocket they will sink it. Okay, so the eight ball in the side pockets, right? Yeah. And in straight pool, you’d call every shot. So it’s it can get very hard to do. That’s where it came from. It wasn’t until the mid 20th century that the term moved out of the smoky pool halls and into everyday usage. It was just a pool hall term until the mid 20th century.

Bob Smith 12:29
All right, more things about Macy’s and shop windows. What did Macy’s introduce 12 years before its first holiday window display, another Christmas tradition in retail shopping. It wasn’t the parade. That was later, and that was one of their innovations. Yes, believe it or Macy’s

Marcia Smith 12:47
is all about Christmas. Yeah, Santa Claus in the store. That’s

Bob Smith 12:51
exactly right. It was in during the Civil War. Some sources say the Santa first appeared in Macy’s in 1862 others in 1864 but they were the first to do it. Now, you might think there were other retail centers around the world that started these things, like London, like Selfridges, but you know what Harry Selfridge? He was American? Yeah, he left Chicago to go to London to open up a British store, and he brought this window idea there. He had elaborate window displays year round, especially at Christmas. And then other retailers followed. By the way, he’s also credited with coining the phrase only x more shopping days till

Marcia Smith 13:27
Christmas. Yeah, what a winner. That was too, right? And the customer

Bob Smith 13:31
is always right. He also pioneered, okay, back to Macy’s window, yes, even its current window. All right, every Christmas time, what does Macy’s always devote some holiday window space too. It’s a movie, a story that was in a movie.

Marcia Smith 13:46
It would have to be an old movie, old Christmas movie. It’s a Wonderful Life, no more of a cartoon. It involved Macy’s, Oh, of course, Miracle on 34th

Bob Smith 13:57
Street. Every year, Macy’s devotes a set of windows to Miracle on 34th Street. That story about the little girl who learns to believe in Santa after meeting Chris. Wonderful movie. Yeah. And like you said, they also invented the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade. The first one was in 1924 and in that first one, store employees were dressed in costumes. Live animals borrowed from the Central Park Zoo were also used and professional bands and floats, and it was an instant success. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 14:25
our local bands go there for Thanksgiving now to perform. That’s right, it’s amazing. I

Bob Smith 14:30
think it’s time for a break. Okay, you’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We’ll be back in just a moment. We’re back. We’re doing some holiday questions here today on the off ramp. So the holidays are the time of the Big Show at Radio City Music Hall with the Rockettes. And in the New York Times, they have a section for kids. And there was an interesting little article by Sydney Messer. She is now a Rockette. She grew up in Portland, Oregon, and she said when she was little, she used to lip sync to Britney Spears. Or pink. Can spin and kick and shake her shoulders. But one thing, she was born without a left hand, and at school, she was bullied. Some kids called her Sydney no hands, so she didn’t know she’d ever be able to do what she wanted to do. But when she was 10, she won a scholarship to a dance convention in New York where members of the Rockettes taught a workshop, and today she is a Rockette. I’ll be darned. She says, Every year we entertain more than a million people at our Christmas Spectacular. Rehearsal starts six weeks in advance. I usually perform in two to four shows every day in our dressing rooms, we do our own hair and makeup, then we put on the first of nine costumes every show, every show, nine costumes. Wow. Throughout the show, we’re dressed as soldiers, reindeer and fairies. She says We’re famous for our high kicks, where our toes nearly line up with our foreheads. And some of us perform up to 650 kicks in a day. So that’s a lot of work. And she says when a show ends, there are people waiting at the stage door to treat us like celebrities. No,

Marcia Smith 15:59
isn’t that sweet? One handed. Rocket, despite

Bob Smith 16:02
that disability, she made it as a dancer in a major stage show. Fantastic. All right, Marcia, we were talking about Macy’s influence on retail shopping during the holidays. All of the things we talked about were pioneered in New York, the first holiday window display, the first in store Santa Claus, a Thanksgiving Day Parade to kick off the shopping season. What other holiday traditions can New York City claim

Marcia Smith 16:28
big Christmas tree in this middle of town? That’s right.

Bob Smith 16:32
The first city to have a public Tree Lighting Ceremony is in New York, and the first place to have a Christmas tree decorated with electric light bulbs. Okay, you know who did that? Edison. The Vice President of Edison Electric Light Company, Edward Hibbard Johnson, in 1882 he had a tree in his house wired with 80 red, white and blue light bulbs. And he put the tree in a window in his townhouse on East 36th street so people passing by could see it. Then he called the press, and they came over, and that was the beginning of it. They publicized it. And one more thing, what famous Christmas story was written by a New York City resident?

Marcia Smith 17:07
Oh, well, what was that?

Bob Smith 17:11
Who was the person? What was his name? I don’t know. Clement Clark Moore, yes. He was a prominent property owner in the Chelsea neighborhood of New York City, and he wrote, he reinvented Santa Claus as a jolly Dutchman pulled by a tiny reindeer The Visit from St Nicholas. He wrote that for his six children, never realizing he was creating folklore for the whole world. He was a prominent property owner in New York City. I always think of him living out in the countryside somewhere, New York City. Yeah. Okay, more songs that we use at Christmas time. What Christmas song was written by a man who won four Oscars and wrote 89 songs for Frank Sinatra? 8989 of his songs were sung by Frank Sinatra. I should know

Marcia Smith 17:52
this, if he was that prolific. His first

Bob Smith 17:54
name was Sammy. Sammy Khan, that’s right. And what Christmas song Did he and Julie Stein right?

Marcia Smith 18:01
I don’t know. Let it snow. Let it snow. It’s not like a big religious song. They didn’t

Bob Smith 18:07
sing a song. I said they’re Christmas time songs. Yeah, here’s another one, Santa baby, that was also written by two Jewish people, Joan Javits and Phil Springer and earth. A kid recorded that in 1953

Marcia Smith 18:19
boy, I remember that being played in the 60s? A lot? Yes, very sexy. What?

Bob Smith 18:24
Christmas song played a role in a famous Christmas Eve celebration in World War One. A Christmas song we know, uh huh. We’ve already spoken of it. Uh huh.

Marcia Smith 18:34
It was, it was something we just spoke about. You know? That one?

Bob Smith 18:39
Yeah, it was that one Marsh, which one?

Marcia Smith 18:42
Okay, I’ll give it to you. I’m dreaming of a white Christmas. Silent Night. Silent night. It was silent night. Yes,

Bob Smith 18:47
during the Christmas truce of 1914 at the height of World War One, German and British soldiers on the front lines in Flanders laid down their weapons on Christmas Eve and sang silent night together, just

Marcia Smith 19:00
kill you that day. Sweet isn’t both sides, right? Right? Just for a moment in time, and then they go back to killing each other.

Bob Smith 19:10
All right, I have another Christmas song question, okay, okay. What Christmas song? A popular Christmas song was co written, again, by a Jew, uh huh, a co writer of the Gilligan’s Island theme? Well, I have no idea. Oh, yes, you do. Okay, it’s about being a certain time of the year,

Marcia Smith 19:28
the most wonderful time, that’s right, of the year, George

Bob Smith 19:32
Wiley and Eddie Pola. George Wiley went on to eventually co write the theme to Gilligan’s Island in 1963 George Wally and Eddie Pola collaborated on this song. It’s the most wonderful time of the year, which was a hit for Andy Williams, okay,

Marcia Smith 19:48
Bob, according to statista.com Sounds like a Cuban military group. What is the most desired Christmas gifts? What are currently the most are the current. Most desired Christmas gift.

Bob Smith 20:01
So now you’re asking me for more than one answer. Yeah. Well, your question, I’m

Marcia Smith 20:05
letting you, if you’re wrong, it might be second or third. Yes, what do you think most people want for Christmas this year?

Bob Smith 20:11
Is this for male and females? Yes, okay. Is there any other hint I can have?

Marcia Smith 20:16
No, we’re giving two of these things this year. We are. Is it money? Yes, that’s number one. Okay, yes, 50% of women and 36% of men say their preferred gift is money, cash, cold cash, gift cards come in second, and it’s followed by clothing, textiles and shoes. Kind

Bob Smith 20:38
of sad that money and gift cards are the number one and two things for most people. I

Marcia Smith 20:43
know I never wanted either for Christmas, but I guess it’s better than getting something, you know, your third pot and pan set or something.

Bob Smith 20:51
Well, it’s better than getting nothing too. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

Marcia Smith 20:55
yeah. And gift cards, people lose them, yeah. And then then it just goes money right down the toilet. Oh, well, speaking

Bob Smith 21:02
of that Marsh, what Christmas song almost had a bathroom connotation.

Marcia Smith 21:08
I don’t know. Bob kind of flush you right down the toilet for Christmas? Well, the

Bob Smith 21:13
song was called, yeah. Originally called tinkle bells, Silver Bells, written by Ray Evans on Jay Livingston. That was almost called tinkle bells, but Jay Livingston’s Jewish wife, Lynn Gordon, was aware of the double entendre of tinkle so she persuaded her husband don’t call it tinkle bells, call it silver bells or something else. And

Marcia Smith 21:33
that is a lovely song. Yes, my brother’s favorite Christmas song. All right, moving on. What

Bob Smith 21:38
Christmas song finally hit number 125 years after it was issued. We don’t realize this, but a lot of these pop songs weren’t that big when they were first released. This is a more recent artist. Her song became number one on Billboard’s Hot 100 chart for the first time in 2019 25 years after it was first released.

Marcia Smith 21:59
Oh, really. And she is, she is no idea. Mariah Carrie, wait, she recorded, oh, my one for Christmas is you? Yes. What year did she recorded

Bob Smith 22:09
that 25 years before 2019 so that was recorded in the 1990s she’s gonna 50s now, but, yeah, that was a big hit, but it wasn’t a big hit for a long

Marcia Smith 22:19
time plays in a big loop on Christmas, a huge hit. Now that’s

Bob Smith 22:23
from britannica.com Okay, okay. Marcia, holiday traditions already retail holiday traditions. How did the Industrial Revolution help make window displays possible? Oh, I’ll bet it’s

Marcia Smith 22:38
the mechanization of things where you got a moving Santa Claus and eyes and arms that move and that. But that

Bob Smith 22:47
was not what I was looking for. What are you looking for? I’m looking for what you look through the window, the window, the window. It was the widespread availability of large plate glass during the industrial revolution that was a new technology out of that, that let retailers build Windows spanning the lengths of their shops to display merchandise. Before that, they didn’t have big windows like that. So stores, starting around 1760 and continuing to 1840 and afterwards, that’s the Industrial Revolution era, began competing by showcasing their wares and their windows. Then they began to adopt purely decorative displays, and led to Macy’s original Uncle Tom’s Cabin story with porcelain dolls and the first holiday window display. Very cool, but it was the technology of the Industrial Revolution, the window making technology. Marcia, what Christmas song? Again, another Christmas song written by Jews was written as a poem by a patient in a tuberculosis Sanitarium. This is a person who couldn’t do what the song was about. Oh, he was a young man too. He was in a one horse open sleigh. No, no, what? Something more basic than that, but build a snowman. When you get up every day, what do you do? Build a Snowman? No, you walk somewhere. Walk out the bathroom, walking in a winter wonderland. Oh yes, by Felix Bernard and Richard B Smith. Now, the Jewish composer was Felix Bernard, the non Jewish composer was Richard B Smith, and he was being treated in the West mountain sanatorium for tuberculosis in 1934 his sister said he was inspired by the freshly fallen snow in the park. He’d love to walk through that winter wonderland, but he died the following year at age 34

Marcia Smith 24:28
oh gosh, all right, thank you for this incredible musical history presented to us today. I’ve

Bob Smith 24:35
got more. In a recent interview, singer Brenda Lee pointed out that 444, of the most famous Christmas songs were written by a Jew, in this case, Johnny marks. These are famous songs all written in the 40s. Okay, what you think they are? Oh, I have no idea. Okay, Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, okay, rocking around the Christmas tree, really? Yep. Okay. Holly Jolly. Christmas and silver and gold. They were. Written by Johnny marks, or CO written by Johnny marks. Now, what one of those songs was inspired by the ostracism one of Johnny marks co writers felt as a Jew, and it had to do with a physical feature of his that inspired it.

Marcia Smith 25:13
Oh, really,

Bob Smith 25:16
I don’t know. Think of the Jewish cliche, what do you have as

Marcia Smith 25:19
Was it something with his nose. Yes, it was. So What song would that be that frosty? The Snowman, Rudolph, the Red Nosed Reindeer. Oh, had a very shiny nose. CO

Bob Smith 25:28
written with Robert Lewis May, who was another affluent New York Jew. The lyrics represent the ostracism he felt growing up as a Jewish boy with a large nose. Oh,

Marcia Smith 25:37
he had a prominent nose, and he and Rudolph was the was the guiding light for Santa. That’s

Bob Smith 25:42
right, yeah. And then one more question, which of Johnny marks Christmas songs was inspired by swaying palm trees, swaying palm trees. Of those four songs, Rudolph, the Red Nosed Reindeer, Holly, jolly Christmas rocking around the Christmas tree, and silver and gold. I don’t know it was rocking around the Christmas tree. How so? Well, in a New York Times interview, 65 years after she recorded that song, as a 13 year old, Brenda Lee revealed that secret. She asked Johnny marks, Johnny, you don’t even believe in Christmas How did you write this song? He said he’d been on a recent vacation, lying on a beach, and he was mesmerized by the distant trees swaying in the ocean breeze. They seem to be rocking, he said. And so rocking around the Christmas tree was born. Have a happy holiday. So here are the names of 11 songs we just reviewed, written all by Jews that are Christmas songs. White Christmas chestnuts roasting in an open fire. Let it snow, Santa baby. It’s the most wonderful time of the year. Silver Bells walking in a winter wonderland. Rudolph, the Red Nosed Reindeer, rocking around a Christmas tree, a Holly Jolly Christmas and silver and gold, all written by Jewish people, Christmas songs. All right, you got some quotes to wrap this holiday show

Marcia Smith 26:56
up? Okay? First one, Mahatma Gandhi. He said, The Day the power of love overrules the love of power. The world will know peace. That was Gandhi, good one. And then good old mother t, you can’t go wrong with Mother Teresa,

Bob Smith 27:10
okay? Mother T, I didn’t know who mother T was. That was

Marcia Smith 27:14
what I have in my notes here. I didn’t think it through. She says, It’s not how much we give, but how much love we put into giving? All

Bob Smith 27:23
right? Well, those are both very great quotes and a great way to wrap up this holiday themed show. I’m Bob Smith, I’m Marcia Smith. Join us again next week for more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp, you

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