114 Mind Over Matter

Bob Smith 0:00
What 10 year period is the most pivotal in a person’s life? And what inspired the little black dress? answers to those and other questions coming up in this half hour of the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith.

Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy take a side road to sanity. And if you have a little black dress show off. Okay, Marcia, what is the most pivotal time of a person’s life?

Marcia Smith 0:44
According to Psychology Today, there’s a 10 year period that more than any other period in your life will determine what your life will be going forward. Decisions made during this period disproportionately shaped a person’s future life trajectory.

Bob Smith 1:00
I would say just classically speaking, we normally think of that period is when you’re in your late teens, early 20s. Because that’s when you have to make all these decisions.

Marcia Smith 1:09
Yeah. Give me a range. Sorry, we’re starting off here. You’re not off at all. Okay,

Bob Smith 1:13
I would say from the age of 16 to 26.

Marcia Smith 1:18
Close 18 to 28. Okay, yeah. And it can shape your future life’s trajectory.

Bob Smith 1:25
And when you think back on it, it’s kind of scary that people make decisions on what they want to do with the rest of their life based on how they feel at the age of 18. Things changed in that period. Sure. A lot of people made mistakes had to correct course. Yeah, this wasn’t a good idea. after all. Yes.

Marcia Smith 1:40
Well, fortunately, it goes up to 28. It just, yeah, it’s mind boggling. We think of our kids, when did they or life start forming and all that? Well, then it was later. Well, Ben was determined dead three. I think. Chelsea Yeah, she definitely evolved during that period.

Bob Smith 1:59
Okay, tell me about the little black dress. Okay, what inspired the little black dress? You know, who’s it’s attributed to as it

Marcia Smith
Audrey Hepburn?

Bob Smith 1:59
Well, no, the person the designer it’s attributed to is Coco? Coco Chanel? Yes. What inspired it?

Marcia Smith 2:12
What inspired it? You got me.

Bob Smith 2:16
Well, she spent years working for low wages in pretty and promising jobs. And she really designed her way out of poverty. This was in her book, she based many of her most successful fashions on workers clothing. Her little black dress was similar to the typical uniform worn by French housemaids at the time. I’ll be darned. Comes from an article in The New York Times called the Cinderella Myths We can’t Quit. That was kind of interested

Marcia Smith 2:39
In her book. I think it’s called Coco. I read big parts of it. Okay, and before we go any farther, further, farther.

Bob Smith 2:50
Okay, that’s always bothered me, too.

Marcia Smith 2:51
I have a mammal correction. I said last week, what are the only two mammals that have blue eyes? And I got it from a bad trivia source and I should if I just thought about it for two seconds, I would have known it wasn’t true. So Frank Sinatra did not have he had. Yes, human beings and lemurs the monkeys, but that’s not true. They’re the only two primates that happened because she’s looking at our friends. Dicken Allen, what’s their dog’s name? Blue? Yeah, because he’s got one blue. I

Bob Smith 3:22
thought he was moody. I bet that’s what the reason. Okay.

Marcia Smith 3:25
And even the dog next door has two blue eyes. So I didn’t pause to think it through.

Bob Smith 3:30
So there are a lot of other mammals that have blue eyes. Correct. Okay. All right. We’ll let it go this time. Actually, I have a memo correction to last week. I said Stephen Hawking’s was a famous American he is famous, but he wasn’t an American. He was British. Thanks to our listeners, Stephen Short for that.

Marcia Smith 3:50
All right, Bob. We’re on our age in Psychology Today. What age is your physical peak?

Bob Smith 3:56
I always thought that was different for men and women. I think man it was like in their early 20s or mid 20s women it was later like 30s.

Marcia Smith 4:05
I know that’s what I read before, but now they say age 25 Is your physical peak and that lasts pretty much 10 to 15 years and then it’s all there. Yeah, and this will depress you life satisfaction peaks at 23 all really Yeah. what not? Certainly not for me not for me either. I hadn’t even now than ever. I hadn’t even started my college life yet. Geez.

Bob Smith 4:30
Okay. What Where did the color yellow for cabs and buses come from? Well, who came up with the idea who came up with came up with the idea of yellow for cabs buses.

Marcia Smith 4:42
Well for heaven’s sakes that’s I was gonna say because it’s obviously easy to spot quick to see

Bob Smith 4:49
Oh, you’re right. Oh, it’s easier to spot and that was where it came from. But who had this idea of

Marcia Smith 4:54
the person there’s actual should I know this person? No. Okay. Then tell me why

Bob Smith 4:58
Okay. He was the future. owner of a rental car company hertz, John Hertz. Okay, John hertz now that’s later in life he became a rental car okay owner, but in an earlier life in the 1920s he was owner of a taxicab company. And he funded a University of Chicago study on colors. Oh, really? Yeah. He wanted to know what color in the spectrum was most visible from a distance? And the answer that came back was a shade of yellow. Yes. So he promptly painted every taxicab in his fleet, yellow areas, and that started a tradition and that carried over to school buses, traffic signs, all kinds of construction vehicles. Yep. Something that needed to be seen and distance out. Anyway. John hertz is responsible for the color yellow.

Marcia Smith 5:43
Okay, here’s a quick factoid on Kevin Costner.

Bob Smith 5:48
Your favorite actor? Well, one of them. Well, he’s

Marcia Smith 5:51
Yeah, he’s up there. He’s good. But he graduated from high school. He was five foot two inches. And by the time he was a full grown adult, he was six one. Wow. Yeah, he grew almost a foot after high school. That is very unusual. Unheard of. Yeah. Well, not for Kevin. Wow. Okay, here’s the question. MEXICO CITY Bob is now sinking up to 20 inches per year. And it could reach 65 feet in the next century. You mean it could sink 65 feet in the next century? Wow. It’s already considered too far gone to save or even try. I mean, the whole city is just gonna

Bob Smith 6:27
Well, it was built on a marsh. It was built on a swamp. I mean, they basically the original city there by the Aztecs was islands with water all around them. That’s what the Spanish came and saw and it was just stunning to them.

Marcia Smith 6:39
So my question is why?

Bob Smith 6:43
Okay, so I answered it did night.

Marcia Smith 6:46
Well, yeah, but actually, this is interesting. According to Science Alert after centuries of water drainage from underground aquifers, the lake bed on which the city sits has grown increasingly dry, causing the clay sheets to compress and crack at a largely unstoppable rate. So it’s not swampy anymore. It’s drying and cracking and causing the sinking and sinking. Well, yeah, that is scary. What do you what do you do? How do you plan for the future if you live in Mexico City?

Bob Smith 7:15
I don’t know.

Marcia Smith 7:16
I mean, you know you build a building there I don’t

Bob Smith 7:18
think a lot larger problem than propping up the Leaning Tower of Pisa that’s for sure. And nobody cares. That leads all right. Let’s go to Broadway. Marcia, what is the longest running show?

Marcia Smith 7:28
Business like Marcia? Just a mom?

Bob Smith 7:32
What is the longest running show on Broadway? You know the answer to this one of your favorite shows?

Marcia Smith 7:37
It used to be fantastic. Is it lame is or the Phantom or it’s Phantom.

Bob Smith 7:41
Okay. Today it’s Phantom of the Opera by Andrew Lloyd Webber. How many performances? Has it had just reopened on Broadway after COVID?

Marcia Smith 7:51
Okay, how many shows in New York

Bob Smith 7:55
13,370 performances and counting. That’s a few. It’s been on Broadway How long since 1988. And it’s highly unusual in that it is lavishly orchestrated most shows today aren’t huge in on Broadway. That orchestra is live and the show calls for an unusually large ensemble of nearly 30 musicians. Now, here’s another unique fact. According to Andrew Lloyd Webber, who recently went to New York for rehearsals to get it all running again. Most of the 30 musicians have been playing with it since the first night kidding in 1988. These people have been working on that show for more than 33 years.

Marcia Smith 8:34
it can be a family person. Wow.

Bob Smith 8:36
He says today I don’t think we’d be able to do it with an orchestra. I think everybody’s forgotten what a real orchestra can sound like and why it’s so important to tell

Marcia Smith 8:44
the wedding people that they have this Jackie’s Wow. That’s, that’s amazing. That’s a lot of people to employ for one show.

Bob Smith 8:51
Now, he as I said he recently rehearsed with the orchestra. They said it’s very rare most composers only attend new shows. And he just opened a new show. What’s it called? It’s called Cinderella. And it’s opened in London in the summer of 2021. But the majestic Theatre has hosted more than 13,370 performances of Phantom and I’ve got a list of all the others it’s interesting. The top five have Phantom, Chicago, Lion King, Cats, Wicked, Les Misérables, A Chorus Line, Oh Calcutta, Mamma Mia and Beauty and the Beast. Okay. Yeah, we’ve seen that a lot. And of those top 10 Only 1234 are still running.

Marcia Smith 9:32
Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Bet you didn’t know this. There’ll be one. There are four letters in our alphabet that individually look the same no matter what you do to them, turn them upside down look from behind, but they look exactly the same. Can you name any of the letters? Two of

Bob Smith 9:50
them my name right away. i And O,

Marcia Smith 9:56
Yes. Okay, that’s very good. Let’s see you’re on your way.

Bob Smith 10:00
Well, no, the other two are X off course and ah, of course, what’s wrong with me

Marcia Smith 10:03
k i x h i o x. So there you’re gonna take that into the future with.

Bob Smith 10:09
Okay, here’s just a question as winter comes on how many Americans depend on natural gas for heat?

Marcia Smith 10:15
And what do you want percentage is the percentage 73 points?

Bob Smith 10:19
Not that many I need to well, it’s nearly half. Let’s put it that way. And of course, the bad news is the projections are they’ll spend an average of 29% more on heat this one according to a forecast. That’s right. All right. Levi Strauss may denim popular in the 1850s. By what making durable trousers for

Marcia Smith
Farmers Oh, California gold rush.

Bob Smith
Gold miners, that was to gold miners.

Marcia Smith
Oh the California gold rush

Bob Smith 10:19
How big is the denim market today?

Marcia Smith 10:44
How big is the denim market today? I think it’s still pretty big. I mean, I’m wearing them you’re wearing them? How do you want this answered in percentage in dollars? Oh, this should be picked from three different categories

Bob Smith 10:55
Pick fromdollars.

Marcia Smith 10:57
Tell me the answer. million dollars 10,000,020. I’ll say I don’t know if 400 million a year.

Bob Smith 11:04
You know, I would think it would be something like that. But boy, Levi Strauss would be surprised that the popularity of of that cloth denim that he made popular originated in France. But according to global industry analysts, the worldwide denim market was worth more than $60 billion. It was close in 2020. It’s projected to grow another $20 billion by 2026. Well, it’s durable. It’s easy, and it keeps coming back into fashion and going out and back into fashion and going out.

Marcia Smith 11:33
Okay, I did a lot of word questions this time. Okay, I find those interesting. Did you know there is only one English word that ends in M T? Only one English word. Yeah. That ends in M-T. Hard to believe, isn’t it? Think about it. Think about it.

Bob Smith 11:51
The word damped No. champed No, I don’t know what, what is it

Marcia Smith 11:56
According to Oxford Dictionaries, the word drempt. And its derivatives is the only one, including undreamt, de drempt, re-drempt. The only other words that end in those letters.

Bob Smith 12:08
As interesting as that is I would be surprised there wouldn’t be more words with empt.

Marcia Smith 12:13
Yeah. Hmm. Okay. drempt Your turn.

Bob Smith 12:17
You want questions with choices? Okay, I’ve got one for you. Which of these countries has two capitals, two capitals, two capitals? Ecuador, Belgium, Vietnam or Bolivia, Vietnam. Now, I would have said that because we think of North and South Vietnam. They were two countries. But now they’re one. Bolivia is one of just a handful of countries on the world to have two capitals officially named the plurinational state of Bolivia. Do you know what plurinational means? No, I don’t. A state with multiple indigenous languages existing in the same country, pluri, meaning plural. So the official seat of government is in La Paz, while secre, or Sukra is the legal constitutional capital in the seat of the judiciary. But why? Well, the official language is Spanish, but it has 37 native languages in Bolivia kidding. Yeah. And because of that they decided more than one capital needed because some of these rival groups rival political groups, what is the most famous pluri-national nation? I would say most famous in the world containing large groups of people with different nationalities and languages.

Marcia Smith 13:28
Yeah, I’m thinking I’m thinking it’s not like Paris or so

Bob Smith 13:32
it’s their United Kingdom. UK Yeah, took 170 years to form 1543 England annexed Wales, which was a separate country on the same island but a separate country. And in 1603, Scottish King James inherited Ireland. He brought that into union with England and Wales. And then in 1707, the Kingdom of England Acts officially joined all four together, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. They all had separate languages into the same political body. So what we think of as England or the UK is a pluri-national organization, different governments different languages, bring them all together. That’s what a pluri-national is. I thought that was interesting.

Marcia Smith 14:13
It is. Okay, I’m gonna read you a sentence Bob. And what’s unique about it? Here’s the sentence are rough coated dove face thoughtful, Plowman strode through the streets of Scarborough. And after falling into his slough, he coughed and hit coughed. What’s unique about that scent,

Bob Smith 14:31
it’s o-u-g-h just got a whole bunch of o-u-g-h

Marcia Smith 14:34
There are nine different ways to pronounce ough. And they’re all in that sentence. Oh, is that right? Yeah, that one sentence contains them all. Every sound of ough and they’re all in the same English language.

Bob Smith 14:45
Yeah, no wonder it’s confusing for people who can’t learn this.

Marcia Smith 14:49
I thought maybe there were a couple of samples of how it’s pronounced. Yeah, but not. Nine is ridiculous. So so it’s o-u-g-h is the The four letters well that are pronounced nine different ways.

Bob Smith 15:04
All right, let’s take a break. Okay, you’re listening to the off ramp with Bob, Mr. Shaw Smith. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. You know, I love to read the New York Times Book Review any book reviews that appear in papers like the Wall Street Journal, or the New York Times because you always learn something. If it’s a historic or a biographical book, you learn a fact that you never knew before. So here is something that comes out of the category. Sometimes things grow out of proportion, where they call it mission creep. Yeah. How big was the novel Crime and Punishment supposed to be originally? Say again? How big How big was the novel Crime and Punishment supposed to be?

Marcia Smith 15:45
Oh, before editing?

Bob Smith 15:48
No. Did you remember what I said about mission creep? Oh, yes.

Marcia Smith 15:51
So it expanded. Yes.

Bob Smith 15:54
The author proposed it to its publisher to …. Yep. Ski. He initially proposed crime and punishment as a 90 page story. Nothing, it would take him only two weeks to get done.

Marcia Smith 16:04
Then what happened?

Bob Smith 16:06
It took him forever. And it’s huge.

Marcia Smith 16:09
When George Washington Bob was heading up our country. We had 350 federal employees. How many do we have today?

Bob Smith 16:17
Oh, dear. There must be hundreds of 1000s Yes. How many?

Marcia Smith 16:21
2.43 million?

Bob Smith 16:23
Oh my god in the federal government. Oh, dear Lord. No. Nobody could control that’s called

Marcia Smith 16:29
growth. Growth Rate. Wow. State and local employees number ready? 20 million. God. So that’s that’s a heck of a lot. Alright.

Bob Smith 16:38
I have a geography question for you, Marcia. Somewhere in the world. Marsha. Two Islands. 2.5 miles apart, have a 30 hour time difference?

Marcia Smith 16:48
Are you kidding? Yeah. Somewhere in what?

Bob Smith 16:50
When we’re in the world? Oh, in the world, two islands, two and a half miles apart? Have a 30 hour time difference where and why?

Marcia Smith 17:00
Well, is it is it out like in the China Sea or something? No, I don’t know. Tell me.

Bob Smith 17:04
They’re in the Bering Strait. Oh, that makes sense. Right. Where Asia and North America and Russia and Alaska are separated by 53 miles. Yeah. The two countries even share custody over the Diomede islands. Their Russia claims Big Diomede Aha, well, the US claims Little Diomede. AND BIG and LITTLE are only two and a half miles apart at their closest point, but they fall on opposite sides of the International Dateline. So why not? 24 hours apart? Yeah, that’s the question. He told me again. 30, they said and that has something to do with daylight savings. Some parts of the world don’t have daylight saving time and everything else. So Little Diomede that’s the United States is 20 hours behind Big Diomede which is the Russian in the summer, and 21 hours behind it in the winter. So that’s why Big Diomede the island and Russia is known as tomorrow Island and Little Diomede in the United States is known as yesterday Island. Those islands only two and a half miles apart.

Marcia Smith 18:01
I never would have thought of that Bering Straits. I was fascinated me. You know, the first people used to walk over them. That’s how they got Yeah, North America

Bob Smith 18:09
was during the Ice Age things gonna change for a while we can land bridge. So that’s what they think we don’t know for sure. Of course. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 18:15
I mean, people Yeah. Just weren’t born here. They were they walked over from they were launched here. They were launched. You could see them walking here from your back porch. Okay. All right. All right. That’s very funny. Okay, my little Presidential Scholar. What President weighed 98 pounds when he took office.

Bob Smith 18:37
The President weighed 98 pounds. Oh, that’s James Madison, isn’t it? Yeah, very good. Because he was considered a very small man. He was a diminutive guy.

Marcia Smith 18:46
Yeah, he was five feet four inches. That’s what I am. But he came in a little less than I did at 98 pounds and five foot four, very thin, a little man.

Bob Smith 18:53
He’s responsible for our Bill of Rights. So the the things that are really important in the Constitution. All right, here’s a music question for you. The compact disc, the CD launched a revolution in music, digital music. They were first developed by the Philips and Sony companies in 1976. But what year was the first album released on CD? From 1976 When that was invented to what year? When did the first album come out on CD? 1980 1982 who was the artist?

Marcia Smith 19:30
The first CD album, was it? Was it the Beatles?

Bob Smith 19:35
Nope. No, that’s the sets the next question coming up. Okay, Billy Joel, really his album 52nd Street which featured big shot in my life. That was the first album released on CD and the year again was 82, 1982.

Marcia Smith 19:47
That’s the year we got married, isn’t it?

Bob Smith 19:52
Yes, it is. That’s right. That’s right. Interesting. The first disc was pressed at a Polydor Records pressing plant in Hanover. It was a brand new factory. And it wasn’t far from the place where Emile Berliner manufactured the first Gramophone. 93 years earlier.

Marcia Smith 20:06
Cuz that interesting little, little serendipity.

Bob Smith 20:11
Okay, two more. CD questions, one on the Beatles. But first, what artists was the first to have his entire catalog released?

Marcia Smith 20:17
It his entire cat? Was it? Dylan? No, Elvis,

Bob Smith 20:23
No Beatles? No. David Bowie.

Marcia Smith 20:27
Oh really,

Bob Smith 20:28
His 15 studio albums were released on disk in February 85, along with the four Greatest Hits albums he had put out. Alright, so now that leads us to the question that you asked about when did the music of the Beatles first debut on CD? Remember, the first CD was 82. When did the Beatles finally let the world have their music on CD?

Marcia Smith 20:47
I’ll say 85. No,

Bob Smith 20:50
I would have thought that too. It was 93 Oh, my goodness. They were holdouts on vinyl. They were holdouts on that and they were holdouts on streaming as well. But you know, when you got gold, you can hold it. You know, it’s interesting, because I found this out when I was just stumbling around on YouTube the other day, and I found there’s a press conference in 1993 with George Martin and George Harrison. It was that big of a deal that the Beatles catalog was gonna be released and it was 1990.

Marcia Smith 21:16
I can’t believe that we all just continued to buy vinyl for all those years. Yeah, up from the Beatles said when CDs were out. Wow.

Bob Smith 21:24
And vinyl, of course has come raging back.

Marcia Smith 21:28
Oh, okay. Well, in February 1964 evangelist Billy Graham broke his lifelong rule against watching television on Sunday. What did he watch?

Bob Smith 21:39
What did you watch on Sunday? Oral Roberts.

Marcia Smith 21:43
No thank you. Though in February 1964, what did he tune into?

Bob Smith 21:47
He watched the Beatles. He did? On Ed Sullivan. Oh my God. He didn’t watch TV on Sunday.

Marcia Smith 21:53
No, that was his just his rule. Oh, Lord.

Bob Smith 21:57
All right. Voting Marsh. Yes. How old you have to be to vote here, here, 18?18. And it was 21 for years. We remember in our time that change. What is the youngest legal voting age in the world? I’ll give you four ages. Okay. 8,13, 16 or 17? Really? Which ones? 16? Yeah, these are nations where you can vote when you’re only 16 years old. This is interesting. Nicaragua, Scotland, Ethiopia, Ecuador, Cuba, Brazil and Austria. Now, Kitty. Yeah, the young age has been criticized by some but on the other hand, proponents of the lower age say helps the next generation get involved in politics, think things through for the betterment of their country.’

Marcia Smith 22:36
Don’t trust their judgment worth anything.

Bob Smith 22:41
Wow. Now as of 2021, most countries have 18 as their minimum but 16 years old.

Marcia Smith 22:48
Now that seems a bit early. Okay. All right.

Bob Smith 22:51
This is kind of funny. Here’s a factoid you probably didn’t know about who was the character of Yoda modeled after the character Yoda the puppet like oh,

Marcia Smith 23:00
he Star Wars. Who does he remind me? I don’t know who?

Bob Smith 23:06
lbert Einstein.

Marcia Smith 23:09
Oh, yeah. Hair and all that yes, yes. Adorable. Yeah.

Bob Smith 23:13
So he was partly modeled after a photo of Albert Einstein.

Marcia Smith 23:16
Yeah, that is cute. That’s it. That was pretty funny. Okay, Bob. Gobble, gobble, gobble. That’s coming up soon.

Bob Smith 23:23
Thanksgiving.

Marcia Smith 23:25
All right. What’s the most popular food at Thanksgiving? Turkey? I would assume. Oh, you’re right. The majority of people want turkey for Thanksgiving more than any other dish as the favorite choice. Okay, Gardner Martha Stewart and who else would know 29.5% of people

Bob Smith 23:43
that’s a majority Yeah, that doesn’t seem like a majority only 29

Marcia Smith 23:46
Well it cuz that was the highest number. Wow. Yeah. All right. Every some people liked him like wah. Or other things standing rib roast, you know, things like that. And according to Fox Business News, their survey shows what are the three top side dishes that people liked the most?

Bob Smith 24:09
Well,Chris I always liked sweet potatoes but I’ll say mashed potatoes.

Marcia Smith 24:14
Ding ding ding Oh, okay. 33.84% people that’s the number one and and of course I hate mashed potatoes but we’re not talking about me here and

Bob Smith 24:24
you’re not crazy about Turkey either. Obviously. You like ham and something else sweet potatoes.

Marcia Smith 24:28
Okay, all right. What are the others stuffing? I love stuff. Okay, that makes sense. 27 point 28% And this Have we ever had mac and cheese for Thanksgiving? I don’t think so. On the side yeah, that’s the third most popular almost, you know 11 and a half percent and according to this particular survey from Fox Business News, the least popular on the lists are green beans and salad. Really

Bob Smith 24:57
now salad I like but green beans I can see That being lesser Yeah. Interesting. You’ve just told us there indicates that after all the culinary improvements supposedly made in the diet we’re a meat and potatoes country. Yeah. We really are. You know, you and I like ancient trees. We loved the redwoods when we were out on the West Coast, which US state is home to the world’s oldest individual living tree. California.

Marcia Smith 25:22
Where is it? It’s in the redwoods.

Bob Smith 25:25
It’s in the Indian National Forest near Yosemite Park. It’s a great basin bristlecone pine, has been verified to be 5062 years old. Right now what’s the tallest tree in the world? What’s it called? It’s deep in the Redwood National Park. It’s a monster that’s got the name. Hyperion stands at 380 feet tall. Twice the size of the Statue of Liberty. Oh my gosh. And amazingly, it wasn’t discovered until the mid 2000s. its exact location is kept under wraps to protect the tree. Oh,

Marcia Smith 25:58
that’s good. Makes sense? Yes. I’m glad.

Bob Smith 26:03
Hyperion. Okay,

Marcia Smith 26:05
I’m going to finish up now with some quotes bad quotes.

Bob Smith 26:07
All right. Quotes are always good for pretty much for last words.

Marcia Smith 26:12
Whoa, not today. No. No dying words. Okay. I think that for upcoming Thanksgiving we’re going to end with a few thoughts about that Billy Shakespeare always has a word or two. He says small cheer and great welcome. Makes a merry feast. Sounds good for Thanksgiving and Christmas to me yesterday, Hanukkah, whatever. You got it all covered. So that again, small cheer and great welcome. Make some merry feast. That’s pretty good. That covers, you know, your Thanksgiving, your Hanukkah, your Christmas. It’s all covered with Bill there. Okay. How about Maya Angelou. Okay, be present in all things and thankful for all things at all times.

Bob Smith 26:53
Yes, we should just add that to our quote. It’s better. Okay.

Marcia Smith 26:58
I did write my own quote here at the end. Okay. This Thanksgiving Day, even if you’re alone with just a pumpkin Pop Tart. See what’s there and not what’s missing?

Bob Smith 27:12
Desh Marcia Smith. Wisdom from the ages. From Marcia from the off ramp, okay. Yes. And on that note, it’s time to go I guess it is. Thanks for listening. We wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving in the United States and a good weekend for everyone else listening in other parts of the world. Join us again next time when we return with more trivia here on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin.

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