What two U.S. states had stripes removed from the American Flag. And has the world ever been at peace? Hear the Off Ramp Podcast. (Art: Mrrebel1453 Wikimedia Commons)
Bob and Marcia discuss historical and trivia topics, including the rarity of peace in human history, with humans being at peace for only 268 years out of 3400. They explore the changes in the American flag, noting that Vermont and Kentucky had stripes removed in 1818. They delve into animal trivia, such as the platypus’s unique eating habits and the value of ostrich feathers. They also discuss the Amazon River’s volume, the first book written on a typewriter (Mark Twain’s “Tom Sawyer”), and the USDA’s Swiss cheese regulations. Additionally, they touch on historical wars, the tallest sand dunes in Colorado, and the world’s highest sea cliffs in Hawaii.
Outline
Has the World Ever Been at Peace?
- Marcia Smith asks Bob Smith if the world has ever been at peace.
- Bob Smith responds that he believes there has never been a time without war, citing the conflict between Adam and Eve’s sons.
- Marcia Smith clarifies her definition of war as an active conflict claiming more than 1000 lives.
- Marcia mentions a book by Chris Hedges stating humans have been at peace for only 268 years out of 3400 years, making up just 8% of recorded history.
Changes in the American Flag
- Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about the states that had stripes removed from the American flag.
- Marcia Smith guesses Texas, but Bob Smith corrects her, stating the original flag had 13 stripes and 13 stars.
- Bob explains that after Vermont and Kentucky joined the Union, two more stripes and stars were added, making the flag have 15 stripes and 15 stars.
- In 1818, Congress decided to keep 13 stripes and add stars only, removing the stripes for Vermont and Kentucky.
Platypus Facts and Animal Trivia
- Marcia Smith introduces the platypus, describing its bizarre appearance and lack of teeth.
- Bob Smith is surprised to learn platypuses use rocks in their cheek pouches to grind their food.
- Bob asks Marcia about animal products once as valuable as diamonds, and she guesses ostrich feathers.
- Bob reveals that ostrich feathers were highly valued in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Shark Attacks and Unusual Animal Facts
- Marcia Smith and Bob Smith discuss the odds of being killed by a shark, with National Geographic estimating one in 3.7 million.
- Bob asks Marcia about the only rock humans eat, and she identifies it as rock salt.
- Bob mentions a new measure determining the Amazon as the longest river, based on the volume of water it releases into the ocean.
- Marcia Smith and Bob discuss the first book written on a typewriter, which was Mark Twain’s “The Adventures of Tom Sawyer.”
Swiss Cheese Regulations and Historical Novels
- Bob Smith shares a USDA regulation about the size of Swiss cheese holes, which should be between three-eighths and 13-sixteenths of an inch.
- Marcia Smith is surprised by the specificity of the regulation.
- Bob asks Marcia about the world’s first novel, which was written by Murasaki Shikabu in Japan in the 11th century.
- Marcia mentions that the book, “The Tale of Genji,” had global influence after an English translation and a review by Virginia Woolf.
Tallest Sand Dunes and Sea Cliffs
- Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about the tallest sand dunes in North America, which are in Colorado.
- Bob then asks about the world’s highest sea cliffs, and Marcia guesses California.
- Bob reveals that the highest sea cliffs are in Hawaii, specifically the Kalapapa cliffs, which rise 3315 feet.
- Marcia and Bob discuss the longest recorded flight of a chicken, which was 13 seconds in 2014.
Pistol Shrimp and Mantis Shrimp
- Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about sea creatures louder than a gunshot, and she guesses the screech owl.
- Bob reveals the answer is the pistol shrimp, which can shoot bubbles at its prey at 60 miles per hour.
- Bob asks Marcia about an animal that can see more colors than any other, and she guesses a bird.
- Bob reveals the answer is the mantis shrimp, which can see 16 colors and has 16 color receptive cones in its eyes.
Screen Time Comparisons and Elephant Trunk Muscles
- Bob Smith compares screen time today with the 1960s, noting that kids today have more screen time.
- Bob shares statistics from Common Sense Media, showing that kids 8-12 years old spend 4 hours and 44 minutes on screens daily, while 13-18 year olds spend 7 hours and 22 minutes.
- Bob mentions that preschoolers in the late 1960s watched TV for nearly eight hours a day.
- Marcia Smith and Bob discuss the number of muscles in an elephant’s trunk (44,000) and a caterpillar’s body (4000).
Word Origins and Historical Wars
- Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about the origin of the word “Pilsner,” which comes from Pilsen, Czech Republic.
- Bob explains that Pilsner is a pale lager created in response to dissatisfaction with the quality of beers in the Czech Republic.
- Bob asks about the origin of “balaclava,” which comes from a town in Ukraine where an important battle was fought.
- Marcia Smith and Bob discuss the countries that have fought the most wars with the United States, including Sweden and Denmark.
The Star-Spangled Banner and American Impressionism
- Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith about the size of the Star-Spangled Banner in the National Anthem, which was 30 feet tall and 42 feet wide.
- Bob explains that the flag was raised after a 27-hour bombardment by the British during the War of 1812.
- Marcia Smith and Bob discuss Mary Cassatt, an American listed among the pioneers of French Impressionism.
- Bob shares that Cassatt was born in Pittsburgh and lived much of her adult life in France, becoming a significant figure in the Impressionist movement.
Countries Declared War on by the United States
- Marcia Smith lists the countries the United States has officially declared war on, including Great Britain, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, and Japan.
- Bob Smith notes that the United States never declared war on Vietnam or Afghanistan, despite those being the longest wars in U.S. history.
- Marcia Smith concludes with a quote by Maya Angelou, emphasizing the lasting impact of how people make others feel.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith express their hope that their listeners remember them fondly and return for future episodes.
Marcia Smith 0:00
Has the world ever been at peace?
Bob Smith 0:04
Hmm, and what two US states had stripes removed from the American flag? Yes, answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. You
Unknown Speaker 0:19
Music.
Bob Smith 0:35
Welcome to the off ramp, a chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity. Well, if we ever had a time there wasn’t any war, that would be a time of sanity, I think, don’t you Yes? And that relates to your question, yes,
Marcia Smith 0:50
Bob, in the course of human history, has there ever been a time without war?
Bob Smith 0:57
I would imagine the answer is no. I’d say from, from the time of Adam and Eve and their two sons who fought each other. It’s always been
Marcia Smith 1:06
war, war, okay, well, if we define war as an active conflict that has claimed more than 1000 lives. Oh, okay, yeah. This is, according to New York Times, okay, over the past 3400 years, humans have been entirely at peace for only 268 years, no kidding, or just 8% of recorded history. Oh, my God, where was that from a book entitled what every person should know about war, hmm, by Chris Hedges,
Bob Smith 1:39
wow. Okay, very interesting. Oh, it’s
Marcia Smith 1:41
a lot of information in there. Okay, Bob, what’s your question? What
Bob Smith 1:44
two US states had stripes removed from the US flag from
Marcia Smith 1:50
the US? Well, it’s got to be someone like Texas. Is that one of them? No, no. How many? Oh, maybe one of the 13 states. No,
Bob Smith 1:59
okay,
Unknown Speaker 2:00
or or
Bob Smith 2:04
so, there were 13 stripes and 13 stars in the original flag. Yeah, that came from the first flag act in 1777, and then after two states were added to the Union, the first two states two more stripes and two more stars were added. Did you realize that at one time, the American flag had 15 stripes and 15 stars, and the two states were Vermont and Kentucky? Oh, okay, yeah, I didn’t know that. And that was the way this flag was for like, 15 years from 1794 on, George Washington made the change there because the flag. The Congress passed that flag in but why did they take them off? Well, because in 1818, they just started thinking as more states came into being, this is going to be pretty ungainly to have a flag with 15 stripes 15 stars. Now it’s not 20 stripes and 20 stars. Now 25 stripes and 25 stars, it’s going to really look bad. Okay, so they decided, let’s just keep the stripes at 13. Let’s remove those two stripes we had, which were for Kentucky and Vermont, and we just add stars from this point.
Marcia Smith 3:09
Well, that was smart. That was very smart. So the two states that had stripes
Bob Smith 3:13
removed from the flag were Vermont and Kentucky,
Marcia Smith 3:18
you know. And plus, it’s symbolically, historically interesting, because there were 13 original states, and that’s a tip of the hat to them, and then all the rest of us came on as a star. That’s nice. That’s
Bob Smith 3:29
it. The 13 original colonies are honored with those stripes, correct? That came from the flag act of April 14, 1818, ever since then, we’ve just added a star. Okay,
Marcia Smith 3:40
let’s talk platypuses, Bob, oh,
Bob Smith 3:42
yes, my favorite, one of those weird animals. Oh,
Marcia Smith 3:47
it is so bizarre, like nobody knew where, like a toy from hell just got that ridiculous mouth. You know, odd looking creatures, weird, weird, weird looking guy. They don’t look anywhere near real. But how do they chew their food, since they have no teeth? Bob,
Bob Smith 4:05
wow, I didn’t even know they had no teeth. That’s right, I didn’t know they chewed do they have gums that just kind of gum their food? Yeah, that’s
Marcia Smith 4:12
a good question. Very old people who’ve lost their teeth, they puree everything when, in a matter of speaking, they actually do what they do is they they pick up rocks and pebbles in their cheek pouches. They have pouches in their cheeks, and they keep them in their cheeks until it’s time to eat, and then they crunch the food with the rocks in
Bob Smith 4:32
their mouth. So they make it they make use of teeth they don’t have, that’s right.
Marcia Smith 4:35
They pretend that’s their teeth, and they grind their food with rocks. Wow, I didn’t know that. What an interesting evolutionary thing. How did they figure that out? That’s
Bob Smith 4:44
the interesting who was inside that platypus looking at those rocks you gotta eat. Okay, I’ve got some fun animal questions here. What animal products were once as valuable as diamonds. And when I say products, I mean, this is something that came off of. Came from an animal. What animal products were once as valuable as diamonds? Well,
Marcia Smith 5:05
oils, different oils were, no, I don’t think so. You’re shaking your head. I don’t think this is radio Bob. That’s
Bob Smith 5:12
right. I’m shaking my head. No, Marcia, okay, it’s ostrich feathers.
Marcia Smith 5:17
Oh, okay. Did
Bob Smith 5:18
you know that? No, I did for a long time in the late 19th and early 20th century, ostrich feathers were highly regarded fashion accessories and were as valuable per pound as diamonds. Oh, my God, that comes from Britannica, and I’ve got another one here. Okay, what are your chances of being killed by a shark? Marcia?
Marcia Smith 5:37
Are we talking percentage, one in so many or what do we how one in how many million, really? Okay, I wouldn’t have even said it, oh, well, one in how many? One in your chances
Bob Smith 5:48
of being killed by a shark are closer when you’re near the water, of course, yeah, I
Marcia Smith 5:52
was gonna say up here in the studio, not so much. Okay, so I’ll say one in 5 million. Well, the
Bob Smith 5:59
National Geographic has estimated the odds of being killed by a shark are one in 3.7 million. Yeah, so that’s less than it’s a lot less than most people think. Well,
Marcia Smith 6:09
then it’s easier to get eaten by a shark than winning the lottery.
Bob Smith 6:13
Let’s compare those two. It’s easier to be eaten by a shark than it is to win the lottery. That’s really apples and
Marcia Smith 6:22
oranges. Makes sense to me. Okay, Bob, all right, what is the only rock that humans
Bob Smith 6:27
eat? The only rock? Think about it. We eat rocks. We do. We eat rocks, not Grape Nuts, because those feel like rocks in my mouth. Those
Marcia Smith 6:38
are the pebbles you use to chew your food. Okay,
Bob Smith 6:41
gee, I give up on that one. I don’t know, rock salt. Oh, okay, that’s a kind of a term rock salt. It’s not really a rock but, okay,
Marcia Smith 6:50
it’s called rock salt. It comes from, it comes from sodium rock layers in the Earth’s crop. That’s true. That’s true. Yeah. And there’s a rock salt you put on icy road, and then there’s a more refined rock salt that you can use in cooking, which I do occasionally. It’s a type of salt that comes from the ocean bottom or rocky layers of the Earth’s crust, and it’s formed from the remnants of ancient bodies of water. Well, that’s good. Yeah, that was a good question. Oh, thanks, Bob.
Bob Smith 7:18
All right, another water question. All right, for years, experts have argued which river is longer, the Amazon or the Nile, because they’re almost the same length, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now there’s a new measure of size that’s determined the answer is the Amazon, it’s bigger than the Nile. What’s the new measure of size
Marcia Smith 7:40
tributaries?
Bob Smith 7:40
I think that was actually solved in 2007 there was a Brazilian scientist that actually had a 14 day excursion, and they measured all of the tributaries. They measured it and it was longer. It was 4225 miles to 4160 miles the Amazon. But the answer is a new measure, and the measure is the volume of water that goes out into the ocean. That’s a new measurement, and measured by the volume of water it releases into the ocean. The Amazon is now considered the largest river in the world. How big is it? Every year, the Amazon releases the equivalent of a dozen Mississippi rivers into the Atlantic Ocean. Wow, that’s amazing. So
Marcia Smith 8:23
the Amazon wins on both counts. Yes, okay, all right, Bob, what is the first book written on a typewriter?
Speaker 1 8:31
The first book written on a typewriter? Well, supposedly it was Mark Twain’s. It was either The Adventures of Tom Sawyer or it was Life on the Mississippi, which I think was about you think,
Marcia Smith 8:44
yeah, yeah, no, you’re right. Tom Sawyer, good for you. And Mark Twain was the first one to do it. He used a 1904 Remington, which had no shift key. So he wrote Tom Sawyer in all capital letters, and that was the very first book written on a typewriter. Oh,
Bob Smith 9:02
and that was a headache for the typesetter. Then he had to determine what was upper case and lowercase. Oh, I did think of that. And that was all probably done with a line of type machine, yeah. So there was an operator there going, Oh, no. And I kind of print this whole thing in all
Marcia Smith 9:14
caps. What’s interesting? Mark Twain, is not that long ago in our world, and to think that was the first type written book is amazing. It is amazing
Bob Smith 9:23
when you think of that. Another century later, we were just getting into really digital stuff. Yeah, you know, fantastic. Okay, Marcia, did you know that there is a USDA regulation that controls the size of Swiss cheese holes?
Marcia Smith 9:39
Well, okay, now there’s,
Speaker 2 9:41
yes, there is coveted position, and it’s precise too, is it? Yeah, all right. What is it? Well,
Bob Smith 9:47
according to Britannica, the US Department of Agriculture says the majority of holes in Swiss cheese sold in the United States should be between three eighths and 13 sixteenths of an inch. Oh, forget. See that is the regulation.
Marcia Smith 10:01
Well, is there a cheese hole counter that goes out measuring this stuff? Yeah, an
Bob Smith 10:05
inspector that comes into the cheese factories. Wait a minute, your holes are a little
Marcia Smith 10:09
big here. Really. Why would you go with three? We can’t
Bob Smith 10:12
call this Swiss cheese. Oh God, Harry, the cheese inspectors back, you know, get the cheese holes down. What
Marcia Smith 10:21
a day I had at the factory. Honey. Those holes just too big, too small.
Bob Smith 10:26
If that cheese holes gets any bigger, that’s gonna be a cheese Head hat.
Marcia Smith 10:29
What a nightmare. Okay, okay,
Bob Smith 10:33
boy, that went off on a diversion. I
Marcia Smith 10:34
didn’t mean to go there, but I’m going back to books. Okay. Do you know that you can buy what is considered the world’s first novel on Amazon books? Well, you can’t, do you know the name of the book or its author, the
Bob Smith 10:48
first novel? Yeah. So was this the world’s first the world’s first novel? Was this in what was this in English? Eventually, okay. Was it in French? What was the original language?
Marcia Smith 10:58
Japanese? Japanese?
Bob Smith 11:00
Well, then it have to be in the 1500s if it was printed. Well, no, they made books here. I don’t know. I have no idea. What’s the answer Marsh, it’s
Marcia Smith 11:09
1000 year old epic written by a woman, Murasaki shikabu, and it’s called The Tale of Genji. It’s a prose narrative, 1300 pages long, written in the 11th century in Japan, and it’s a novel that follows the life and romances of a young man named he car Genji. Wow. The tale had global influence in 1925 after an English translation was done and a review was written by no one less than Virginia Woolf, oh, really, yeah, in British Vogue magazine, and got written up, and then people started reading it again, so she liked it. Then, yeah, anyway, you can get it for 99 cents on your Kindle. Wonder
Bob Smith 11:52
who gets the royalties? The question is, who gets the royalties these days? That’s a good question. 1000 years old, yeah, no wonder what constitutes a novel, because some of those early, you know, mythic tales, you could think were, is a tale
Marcia Smith 12:04
there, but this was an actual one person romance, ups and downs of a guy named Genji.
Bob Smith 12:12
Genji, all right,
Marcia Smith 12:12
tales of Genji, Marcia,
Bob Smith 12:15
I had a question a couple weeks back on, what were the tallest sand dunes in North
Marcia Smith 12:19
America? Yes. And they were in Colorado, that’s correct. All
Speaker 1 12:23
right. Now the answer now we’re moving to another high, highest kind of thing. Feature, Marshall, okay, where are the world’s highest sea cliffs? Now I’ll give you choices here. Okay, thank you. The White Cliffs of Dover in England, New Zealand, Hawaii, Australia, or Big Sur in California. Where are the world’s highest sea cliffs?
Marcia Smith 12:44
I haven’t been to all those places. I’ll just guess
Bob Smith 12:49
again, England, New Zealand, Hawaii, Australia or California, I’ll
Marcia Smith 12:54
say California. And
Bob Smith 12:56
you’ve seen those big ones on Big Sur. Those are 1600 feet to 3280 feet tall.
Marcia Smith 13:02
These are even taller, yeah, not big enough. These
Bob Smith 13:04
are 3315 feet tall.
Marcia Smith 13:07
Is that one in Dublin? No,
Bob Smith 13:09
they’re in Hawaii. Okay. Been there? Kalapapa cliffs on the north shore of the Hawaiian island of Molokai. They rise an incredible 3315 feet over the Pacific. It’s a 3315 foot drop, and you can’t reach the cliffs by car. You have to hike a 3.5 mile trail with 26 switchbacks at a 2000 foot descent. Kalapapa cliffs. In kalapapa,
Marcia Smith 13:35
I just like to say that, hey, I’m calipa. Okay, let’s get serious. No, I’m
Bob Smith 13:40
being serious. Want
Marcia Smith 13:41
to guess what is the longest recorded flight of a chicken
Bob Smith 13:49
in Hawaii? Those little chickens in Hawaii, kalapapa. Oh, see, the longest recorded flight of a chicken. I never think of chickens as flying. They’re like turkeys. They don’t fly very far. I don’t believe, but Okay, I’ll go for 2200 miles.
Marcia Smith 14:07
No, no, no talking in time.
Bob Smith 14:09
But you mean time? How
Marcia Smith 14:11
long? How long did they Okay? So
Bob Smith 14:13
then, then it is what I suspected. I’ll take 35 seconds. Well,
Marcia Smith 14:17
that would be long. It’s recorded in 2014, 13 seconds,
Bob Smith 14:25
the flight of the chicken, that’s right. And
Marcia Smith 14:27
in case you’re wondering, the longest distance recorded so far is 301 feet. Well, chickens
Bob Smith 14:34
just can’t make it real. Well, no,
Marcia Smith 14:35
and you’re asking, why are they so bad? Well, their wings probably their wings are too small and their flight muscles are too large, so they’ve evolved in the wrong direction. It makes it hard to take off or stay up. So what was WKRP? What was the birds that turkeys? Turkeys? Yeah, God is my witness. I thought turkeys could fly Exactly,
Bob Smith 14:56
exactly. So neither one can fly, and they both. Both birds that are eaten. So do you think there’s any connection now? I
Unknown Speaker 15:03
think so. Okay, although
Bob Smith 15:04
we did have that one question of some time back about how chickens, for centuries, were considered exotic beasts and they were revered, and then somebody said, Hey, these taste pretty good. Is the end of that.
Marcia Smith 15:15
Someone invented barbecue sauce. That’s what happened. All right,
Bob Smith 15:19
let’s take a break. Here. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia. We’ll be back in just a moment. Take
Marcia Smith 15:24
those little wings and you sauce them up. Okay, go watch the football game.
Bob Smith 15:32
Okay, Marcia, we’re back again. And I have a, I have a animal question for you. Alrighty, I found a couple of these out of Britannica. They have a daily feature, and it pops up, and I get that. And this one was interesting. What sea creatures are? Louder than a gunshot? There’s a sea creature really louder than a gunshot, and it’s named aptly. It’s kind of funny.
Marcia Smith 15:54
No, the screech owl that no makes sense. That’s not, that’s not sea creatures. Sea creatures, I’m thinking it’s named, lives in the water and has a loud name like the Banshee. No,
Bob Smith 16:06
it’s the pistol shrimp, aptly named by snapping their claws. Pistol shrimp can shoot bubbles at their prey at the rate of 60 miles per hour, stunning them, and the sound is louder than a gunshot. Wow. Pistol shrimp. Well, oh,
Unknown Speaker 16:24
isn’t that interesting? Yes.
Marcia Smith 16:26
Well, going on that theme, Robert, what animal can see more colors than any other animal on the planet, including humans, really
Bob Smith 16:34
see more colors? Sounds like a friend of mine in high school.
Unknown Speaker 16:39
I used to go out with him. Hey, see you more. Yeah,
Bob Smith 16:41
I think it’s some kind of a bird. Yeah, because birds can see some kind of ultraviolet rays and things that we can’t see, yes, different parts of the spectrum. So Correct. What’s the answer?
Marcia Smith 16:52
The mantis shrimp
Bob Smith 16:54
still in the water. We’re
Marcia Smith 16:55
still with the shrimp. Bob, wow. Okay, the mantis shrimp can see 10 times more color than humans, and can see 16 colors in all Wow. Isn’t that amazing? Again. How
Bob Smith 17:06
do they figure this out?
Marcia Smith 17:08
I know shrimp so humans have three color receptive cones in their eyes, okay? And the shrimp, mantis shrimp, has 16 color receptive cones, okay, I stupidly wonder what the colors were, and I wanted to see them. But of course, I could see, if you can’t see him, you can’t see, oh, I would like to Google. I want to see what they look like. Well, da,
Bob Smith 17:32
oh, my, we think we’re superior to them. But no, no, no. You know, I was reading something the other day, and they were talking about screen time. You know, parents are rightly concerned about the amount of screen time correct kids have with today’s digital devices. So then I remember when we were kids, parents were always talking about screen time back then, but it was always about the television. So how does screen time today compare with the 1960s Well, that’s curious. My own little weird question.
Marcia Smith 18:00
Well, I have to think twice as much screen time today, because they’re doing it day and night, and we just watched it all night back then. So I’ll say it’s tripled. Well,
Bob Smith 18:12
it’s kind of apples and oranges, but I got some interesting stuff here. Okay, okay, according to Common Sense Media, the average screen time today for kids, kids, not including schoolwork or homework, is four hours, 44 minutes for kids eight to 12 years old, that’s on a daily basis, and seven hours, 22 minutes for 13 to 18 year olds. So the higher up you go, the more. Yeah, more screen time. Okay, well, guess what preschoolers in the late 1960s were looking at TV screens nearly eight hours a day on average. That’s according to the Atlantic magazine. In fact, parental worries about media stretch all the way back to the early years of the 20th century, from the Washington Post in 1931 the radio seems to find parents more helpless than did the funnies, the automobile, the movies and other early invaders of the home, because it cannot be locked out or the children locked in. So they were worried about the radio, just like TV and now computers. I just thought that was quite interesting.
Marcia Smith 19:13
Well, the trouble today, though, I mean, kids don’t even interact anymore. They just text, even if they’re in the same room.
Bob Smith 19:19
Well, interestingly enough, in that 1931 article, Sydney master Greenberg, the director of the Child Study Association of America, what did she say the biggest worry radio gave parents? What how it interfered with conversation, music, practice, group, games and reading and around it goes, yeah. So the more things change, the more they remain the same. Remember,
Marcia Smith 19:42
last week, Bob, we talked about the elephant trunk and all its muscles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember how many it had in its trunk? 44,040 40,000 Yeah, muscles and tendons. Amazing. How many think a caterpillar which is a little smaller than a elephant? Oh, thank
Bob Smith 19:59
you. Very much.
Marcia Smith 20:00
How many muscles in their bodies? Now, the human being has about 600 muscles in our bodies.
Bob Smith 20:07
Okay, I would say like 2000 for the caterpillar, because it’s smaller and it needs a lot of muscles, just like that, just
Marcia Smith 20:14
that for wiggling and squiggling. But it’s twice that, 4000 muscles, 4000 so it’s a 10th, oh, a 10th of the elephant. Yes, you’re right, exactly. The head alone of a caterpillar has 248 muscles, so it does a lot of stuff going on. Wow. They are very I
Bob Smith 20:31
wonder how that compares. When they become butterflies.
Marcia Smith 20:34
I think about it. Well, where do the muscles go? Yeah, do
Bob Smith 20:37
they lose them?
Marcia Smith 20:38
Amorphic, I
Bob Smith 20:39
don’t know, very interesting. Oh, my God, I’m just thinking so many things here. I can’t come up with the answers, but I do have some answers for you on word origins. I like word origins. Okay? Pilsner beer. Where did that name come from? Pilsner
Marcia Smith 20:52
England, no pilsley England, no pillstown, no John. Pilsner, you’re on
Bob Smith 21:00
the right track, Pilsen, Czech Republic. Okay, the pale lager was created in response to the dissatisfaction with the quality of beers in the Czech Republic, what is now the Czech Republic, during the 1800s and in 1842 a brewer in the town of Pilsen created a new style of beer. It was a big hit. Oh, okay, that’s,
Marcia Smith 21:21
it’s good beer, too.
Bob Smith 21:22
All right, another one, baklava.
Marcia Smith 21:25
Baklava, good, good Greek dessert. Well,
Bob Smith 21:28
this is the head gear of skiers and robbers. Oh, Bala clava,
Marcia Smith 21:32
I guess. Oh, yeah, that’s
Bob Smith 21:33
a little different balaclava. Okay, tell me where that comes from. Where does the name come from? The Balkans? No, it comes from Ukraine, okay. It comes from a town of the same name in Ukraine where an important battle was fought. Okay,
Marcia Smith 21:49
okay. And speaking of wars, what two countries in the world have fought the most wars? Bob, what
Speaker 1 21:57
two countries have fought the most wars now? Are these modern countries. I mean, are we talking in world history, there are two countries, yeah, because a lot of countries weren’t around 300 years ago. Yeah. So I can’t tell you the answer. Okay, no, no way to know. Okay, tell me the answer. All
Marcia Smith 22:13
right. This is, this knocks me out Sweden and Denmark,
Bob Smith 22:18
really? Yeah. Do you think of them as very peaceful? Yeah, you
Marcia Smith 22:21
always think of them as that. There was these
Bob Smith 22:22
peace loving people, so the Scandinavian region
Marcia Smith 22:26
and all their Hiku or Haiku, no, not hiccu. Wait, hold on, what is that? Iggy, all the Higgy. Yeah, they got the Higgy, but they got the war too. Okay, they have fought each other for centuries. I mean, they hold the record for around 30 wars since the 15th century. Wow, that’s a lot, 30
Speaker 1 22:46
wars since the 15th century in those two What are now those two countries? Yeah, of course. You had before that. You had the Vikings coming from that area. So yeah, they do have some problems.
Bob Smith 22:59
Okay, Marshall, let’s go back to that first question I had about the states they had the stripes removed. Okay, let’s go back to the big flag that we have. The name of the song for the Star Spangled Banner. How big was the Star Spangled Banner in the famous song? How big was the Star Spangled Banner in our famous National Anthem song?
Marcia Smith 23:20
Okay, five by 10. Five foot by
Bob Smith 23:23
10 foot. No, it was absolutely huge. It was 30 feet tall and 42 feet wide, so big that every star was two feet tall. What kind of flag pole? It’s called a garrison flag, and it was raised after the battle. And because of it being so huge, it was seen, and that’s what Francis Scott Key saw. Oh, really realized. Oh, the Americans won the battle. Oh, no kidding, yeah, it was a huge flag. What
Marcia Smith 23:52
did they hang it on? Well,
Bob Smith 23:53
they had a they had a flagpole there, but they had an all night bombardment by the British. Uh huh. That’s one of those battles you don’t think much about. But it was right after the war of 1812 began. They burned the British burned Washington and the White House. Then they set their sights on the nearby city of Baltimore, which was the third largest city at the time. Fort McHenry was there, and the British couldn’t bring in their big battleships, so they brought in rocket ships. They had actually a ship called a rocket ship, and then they had these others that fired all these there were like six different battleships that fired mortars and rockets, brand new, newly invented rockets, and the flag was still, well, the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air, because it comes from the concrete rockets. But 27 hours in driving rain of a bombardment, and then they hoist that huge flag, and that’s how everybody must
Marcia Smith 24:43
have been thrilling the
Bob Smith 24:44
British laws, yeah, after all, it was the beginning of the end of the war of 1812 Okay, Bob, who is the only
Marcia Smith 24:51
American listed among the pioneers of French Impressionism. I didn’t, I didn’t know there were any Americans. Yes, there is one. And. That person is right up there with Monet who began it? Okay, yeah, man, a Renoir Passaro Suzanne, and I would
Bob Smith 25:07
know this person. Yes, the person’s name is, I don’t know.
Marcia Smith 25:12
Well, would it help you if I tell you it’s a woman?
Bob Smith 25:16
No, I can’t remember her name. Mary cassad, yes, I do remember that. Yes.
Marcia Smith 25:21
And we have a book downstairs with her face, that’s
Bob Smith 25:24
right. So tell me about her. Born
Marcia Smith 25:26
in 1844 and what is now Pittsburgh, she lived much of her adult life in France, where she developed her art and became one of the most important figures in the Impressionist movement. So
Bob Smith 25:39
the first impressionist painter in America was a woman. That’s quite a distinction. Yes, it is. Okay. Marcia, what do these countries have in common with? The United States? Okay? Great Britain, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Austria. Hungary, Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania and Japan. Now you notice Hungary was mentioned twice in there, because at one point it was Austria, Hungary, and then it was Hungary. But all those countries, there’s 10 countries there. What did they have in common with the United States? This goes back to one of your questions. Oh, gosh, they are the only countries that we’ve officially declared war against in our history.
Unknown Speaker 26:21
Oh, really. Oh, it
Marcia Smith 26:22
didn’t ring any Bell, yeah. Again, Great Britain,
Speaker 1 26:24
Mexico, Spain, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and Japan, wow. Now, ironically, we never declared war on Vietnam or Afghanistan, even though those wars, they were the longest wars in our history. We never voted on declaring war, but it was war. The presidents never asked for a declaration of war, and yet those wars lasted longer. But yeah, those are the 10 countries. That’s what they have in common with the United States, we declared war on them.
Marcia Smith 26:52
Okay, I’m finishing up with a quote by Maya Angelou. I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. Well, that’s
Bob Smith 27:06
absolutely true. That is what people remember. And you and I believe that, yeah, okay. Well, we hope you remember us in a good way and return again later. Hope
Marcia Smith 27:15
we made you feel good our one of our listeners, Val, wrote us a letter and said her dad had to put his dog down and to cheer him up, she put on our show. Oh, is
Unknown Speaker 27:26
that right? Yeah, and he
Bob Smith 27:27
liked it. He loved it. Oh, that’s wonderful. Well, that’s a good way to end the show. We hope that you return when we return. I’m Bob Smith,
Marcia Smith 27:36
I’m Marcia Smith. Join us again
Bob Smith 27:38
next time for the
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off ramp.
Bob Smith 27:42
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