219 Wacky Trivia

Marcia Smith 0:00
What country has a committee to assure that you don’t give your baby a weird name?

Bob Smith 0:07
That’s all we need. And what famous man’s family engaged in litigation over his reputation for 300 years?

Marcia Smith 0:17
Well, that’s quite a drawn out lawsuit answers

Bob Smith 0:19
to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. Wait a minute,

Marcia Smith 0:27
okay, move on.

Bob Smith 0:44
Welcome to the off ramp, a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy take a side road to Saturday with some fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Do you know I’ve heard of this Marcia, there is a country where there is a list of approved names you have to go through a process. Yes. And I know it’s in Europe. I can’t remember where it is, though.

Marcia Smith 1:05
Iceland, Iceland, Iceland. Yes, they take their culture very seriously. And they have a pre approved list of traditional names that citizens can use, which applies whether they’re newborn babies or older newcomers. If someone wants to use a name outside of the list, then you need to apply to the get this personal names committee. Oh, everybody loves the committee. New names need to fit the structure of Icelandic linguistics and alphabet be able to accommodate the language structure and not cause the bearer any

Bob Smith 1:39
embarrassment? Or how are we going to know that when the kids only an

Marcia Smith 1:43
infant, that committee only gets about 100 applications a year because pretty much everyone sticks to the list, but they reject half

Bob Smith 1:50
of them. They reject half of the ones that they get Yes, geez. This

Marcia Smith 1:54
sometimes causes conflicts as in the case of a British expat who couldn’t renew his children’s passports under Icelandic law, because their names were Harriet and Duncan. They couldn’t get their passports. Goodness. But here’s the kicker. Guess who else has committees for various reasons to approve your name? Cool. Germany, New Zealand, Sweden, Malaysia, China and Japan. Wow. There’s

Bob Smith 2:18
that many countries where they’re trying to do that? Yeah, for

Marcia Smith 2:20
one reason or another when it control the names that just blew me away?

Bob Smith 2:24
That’s quite an abridgement of freedom, I would say, Isn’t it in my world? Yes. Wow. Can you imagine if we would have had to go before a committee before we named our children and to explain why

Marcia Smith 2:36
I would get testy and get thrown me to Yes. Okay.

Bob Smith 2:39
Marcia, whose family was this? Its members were extremely litigious filing lawsuits on behalf of their founders accomplishments for decades after his death. Most court cases were settled 30 to 50 years later, but some went on for 300 years. whose family would do that though, whose family was this famous man everybody knows this person’s name. Everybody in America knows. Tell me Christopher Columbus, really after his death, his heirs waged a long legal battle with the Spanish crown claiming that the monarchy had shortchanged the family on money and profits that were due Him you know, for discovering the new world because they just began raking in millions and millions and millions of dollars worth of gold and silver and everything from the Americas. He sailed in the 1490s. And most of the lawsuits dragged on until 1536. Settlements included giving his descendants pensions or appointing them governors in the new world. But some family members kept suing the Spanish monarchy and legal proceedings dragged on for 300 years, the heirs of Columbus and the Spanish monarchy. Were still fighting in court in 1790 S. Now that’s one lawsuit happy family. But those lawsuits did benefit the world. Do you know why? No, because all of those court cases had witnesses that were brought by Columbus’s family or the Spanish crown to testify about his voyages. So we have an incredible history of his voyages to the New World. Amazing.

Marcia Smith 4:09
Okay, moving on to the movie world. Bob. How did a case of dysentery play a role in an iconic scene in the movie? Indiana Jones dysentery? Yeah. How did that play a role in one of the biggest scenes in that movie?

Bob Smith 4:24
Gee, I don’t know. Well, who had the dysentery is the question.

Marcia Smith 4:28
Harrison Ford. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Wow.

Bob Smith 4:31
That’s not an easy thing to take. No,

Marcia Smith 4:33
but the face off. We all remember this scene between India and the swordsman, right? Yeah, yeah, was originally supposed to be a prolonged scene with India and his bullwhip, you know, thrashing it about and the twirling sword. But Harrison Ford had come down with a really bad case of dysentery and he had to stay close to a bathroom and it wasn’t a lot of pain. So it was decided on the spot. We gotta get this over with quick so they said just pull out your gun and shoot him.

Bob Smith 5:04
You remember that? Because everybody saw that Saint that how is he gonna get out of this when it became

Marcia Smith 5:08
one of the most remembered scenes in the movie and everybody always laughed.

Bob Smith 5:12
It looked like he was just bored with this skit. It was brilliant. Oh, my goodness.

Marcia Smith 5:18
And it helped cut the day shooting considerably timewise they made up for a lot of lost time with that last second change. So that

Bob Smith 5:27
was something that they just improvised. Marcia, what is the most populated island in the world? What’s the name of it? And how many people are on it?

Marcia Smith 5:36
Think I don’t know that.

Bob Smith 5:37
This is a synonym for coffee. So I’m helping you win a cup a Java. There we go. I know. You know the name of this. Thank you, dear. Java is an Indonesian island. It has 53,589 square miles 38 mountains, including a 12,000 feet volcano. How many people are on Java? The most populated island on Earth? Gosh, I

Marcia Smith 6:00
can’t even guess it’s in the millions is yes, it is. Okay. I’ll say is it more than New York City? Yes, it is. Wow.

Bob Smith 6:08
Yes, it is.

Marcia Smith 6:09
I’ll say 12 million.

Bob Smith 6:11
It’s 141 million people. Yes. The most populated island on Earth. Java has 141 million people living there. Wow. Now what’s the second most populated island on Earth? Any idea where that would be? In Asia? Yes. It’s Honshu island in Japan, it has 104 million people living there, including the citizens of Tokyo. All right,

Marcia Smith 6:35
middle names. You know, when middle names came into use? middle

Bob Smith 6:38
names came into use probably in the Middle Ages.

Marcia Smith 6:46
I don’t know what see. Okay, ancient Rome. Oh, really. But middle names as we know them today started in Italy, just as we were entering the Renaissance, the earliest middle names were Catholic saint names given to elite families. And in the early 1800s 45% of French boys were given at least one middle name. And by the end of the century, the number jumped to 69%. So there was a lot of growth with that practice. So here’s the question, who was the first president to have a middle name,

Bob Smith 7:16
the first president to have a middle name? Well, I know it wasn’t Ulysses S. Grant, because s did not really stand for anything in his middle name. So I will say it’s somebody in the late 19th century. Could it be somebody like Grover Cleveland. Now

Marcia Smith 7:34
this is a giveaway for you, Bob. He actually used his full name all the time to distinguish him from the second president.

Bob Smith 7:41
Oh, is it? Adams? Yes. John Quincy Adams. Yes. No kidding. So he was the first president to have a middle name. Yes.

Marcia Smith 7:48
First five presidents didn’t have them. And it was still unusual when John Quincy Adams who was born in 1767. It was still rare, but it ended up being pretty convenient as a way to distinguish him from John Adams. The next president with a middle name was number nine. William Henry Arison, William

Bob Smith 8:06
Henry Harrison was in the 1840s I think it was right. At least three

Marcia Smith 8:10
later presidents Bob went by their middle names, and you named one of them.

Bob Smith 8:16
I did Yes. Yes, I did. Who which was who was happy? Helped

Marcia Smith 8:24
me. You LISI? Oh, yes. That was his middle name. Well, I

Bob Smith 8:28
heard he didn’t have a middle name. Well, yes. Yes. Did

Marcia Smith 8:30
he put in as just for cadence? I think okay, but Ulysses was his middle name. His first name originally was Hiram. So he got rid of that. And the s doesn’t stand for anything. Grover Cleveland. His first name was Stephen. So he went by Grover.

Bob Smith 8:45
Wow. Would you go by Stephen if your name was Stephen Grover, Grover.

Marcia Smith 8:49
No kidding. And Woodrow Wilson, his first name was Thomas. Really? Yeah. Thomas Woodrow Wilson. And he dropped his first name and went with his second Woodrow. Yeah,

Bob Smith 9:00
that’s distinctive. Yeah. I’ve got more islands names.

Marcia Smith 9:05
Well, gee, I’m not up on my islands today, Bob, but throw it at me. Well, I

Bob Smith 9:09
just thought this was kind of interesting. You we think of Japan and you’ve seen pictures of that island on the map. And you see, okay, there’s probably a one island there and maybe a couple of other. How many islands Do you think Japan has? The nation? How many islands we tend to think of the large island 107,000? Oh, 7000 islands and only 400 are inhabited. Wow. Okay, what is the third most populated island? The first one was Java, the second Honshu where Tokyo is what is the third most populous island in the world? Oh,

Marcia Smith 9:39
no. You’ve been there. I’ve been there, Hawaii. No, Bimini,

Bob Smith 9:44
it’s a big place marched. Oh, England. Well, that’s not the name of it. What’s the name of the Ireland Great Britain. That’s right. Home to three countries Wales, Scotland and England and 62 million people live on Great Britain.

Marcia Smith 9:58
That should have been obvious to me okay. Speaking of names, what famous artists signed his earliest paintings as P Ru is ru YZP ru

Bob Smith 10:09
yzp.ru S?

Marcia Smith 10:13
Who was it? And why is this

Bob Smith 10:15
a? who is an artist? Or is this somebody who’s still alive? Possibly not anymore? No. Is this somebody from the Renaissance era? No. Is this somebody from the 19th century? Yes. Okay. I don’t know.

Marcia Smith 10:29
All right. Most people know a certain influential surrealist cubist painter as Pablo Picasso or just Picasso. But the artist who was born in Spain actually had fifth teen named Noah. His family was inspired by STS and members of the family G so his full name and forgive me ahead of time for pronounciation Pablo Diego who Jose Francesco de Paula one Nepo Moochie no Crispin crispy and no Maria del lawless Ranbir Dios de la Assa T SMA, Trinidad rulez Picasso. He’s, at first he incorporated his second to last name rulez in his signature, P rulez. And his earliest paintings were signed P rulez. Then P rulez. Picasso, then PR Picasso. He finally just signed Rue is for some cartoons. And eventually he said The hell with it and settled on plain old Picasa.

Bob Smith 11:33
Wow, all those names that sounds like they’re taking attendance and that’s the name of all the kids in a nursery school.

Marcia Smith 11:38
Yeah, get that on the baptismal certificate.

Bob Smith 11:41
That’s amazing. Oh, gosh.

Marcia Smith 11:43
All

Bob Smith 11:44
right. I have a question about an actress Marcia. Okay. I’ll narrow it down to a Golden Girls actress. What Golden Girls actress was named honorary mayor of Hollywood in 1955 55. And why is either Betty White or Bea Arthur or Estelle Getty? Oh, McLennan. I didn’t

Marcia Smith 12:02
get that. Okay. Was one of the Golden Girls. I’ll say. Getty. What’s your name? Estelle Getty. Yes, no. Okay. Then I’ll say, Oh, she I think she was a child star. Was it be Arthur? No. I got two other chances. Betty

Bob Smith 12:16
White Ludden. They bite? Yeah. She was actually a pioneer in early television. Her career was over 80 years. She was one of the first women to work both in front of and behind the camera. She had a sitcom called Life With Elizabeth. In the early 1950s. I read that Yeah. And that contributed to Harry being named honorary mayor of Hollywood in 1955. So she was very popular back then. And then, you know, disappeared into the gods of television then came back out when he was in the golden password. Yeah, that was her husband’s show. Yeah. And then Golden Girls wasn’t Mary Tyler Moore before Golden Girls. That’s right. She was on Mary Tyler Moore Show. Yeah, happy homemaker. That’s right. I forgot about that. See? There you go. So she was on two big shows. Actually. She was on television in 1939 Because she went to the New York World’s Fair and she was on camera.

Marcia Smith 13:06
Oh, really? Oh, how cool off with their big dimples and all that experimental

Bob Smith 13:09
TV. Okay, have another one here. If this is interesting, what US actress once held the title of Miss Orange County 1978. Miss Orange County. I need a I’ll give you names here. Okay, Sharon Stone, Julie Roberts or Michelle Pfeiffer.

Marcia Smith 13:24
Michelle Pfeiffer.

Bob Smith 13:25
That’s who it was. I never think of these people as winning talent contests and stuff like that, but they did for years in the 30s and 40s. So a lot of women got into show business. Michelle Pfeiffer in 1978 was the Fountain Valley High School graduate and Vons supermarket checkout girl. She was 19 going on 20 when she won the Miss Orange County beauty pageant crown. And then she entered Miss California pageant in a very practical outfit, a swimsuit and high heels and, and a Hollywood agent was one of the judges she lost placing six but she went on to become more famous than any Miss California ever has. All

Marcia Smith 14:02
right. What do you think today are the most popular names for dogs for bigger

Bob Smith 14:05
names today?

Marcia Smith 14:06
Yes, well, I did have a rabbit hole Bob dogs

Bob Smith 14:08
big name for dogs. I think they’ve gone away from Rover and names like that. So are they like Reginald and

Marcia Smith 14:17
according to the posh shame is harsh names. According to the pet care company rover. The two most popular names for dogs are Charlie for male dogs and Luna for a female dog really? That’s only among dogs that are registered with this service but they have more than a million clients. So it’s a big it’s a big sample Charlie? Yes. Other incredibly common dog names are Max Bella Cooper and Daisy.

Bob Smith 14:41
I don’t know I guess people name their dogs normal they name their kids weird. Yeah. Remember travels with Charlie. That was a good book. Do you remember that?

Marcia Smith 14:52
I’d never read that

Bob Smith 14:53
that was famous author of a famous American author kind of can’t remember his name now.

Marcia Smith 14:57
Is it time for break?

Bob Smith 14:59
It is time for a break time to look up that name. We’ll be back in just a moment. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We’re back Stein back John Steinbeck. Thank you as who wrote the book travels with Charlie. It’s about him going across the country, them in the car and just talking about places he went and things like that. One of the last things he wrote and I think the only thing I ever read of his but like it was, it was pleasant. I never really re Nice. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We do the show for the Cedarburg, Public Library, Cedarburg, Wisconsin. Every week. It airs on Monday night, and then after that, it goes on podcast platforms all over the world. That’s right, Marsha. All right. What do you got there?

Marcia Smith 15:43
What percentage Bob of women today take on their husbands name when they marry? Oh, that’s

Bob Smith 15:49
a good one. I always thought that that was something that should be about moated. We should get rid of that. Because everybody should have a very distinctive name. We can be the Smith couple, but you can keep your name Marcia Drew? Oh, thanks. I’ll keep mine Bozo the Clown. And then, you know, then we both have our own personalities.

Marcia Smith 16:06
You are an enlightened man.

Bob Smith 16:07
Thank you very much. You’re

Marcia Smith 16:08
welcome. So what’s the percentage? Oh, no, no. Just take a stab. Okay, the percentage of women who take their husbands take their

Bob Smith 16:16
husbands name, I would say that’s probably about 60 to 70%. More

Marcia Smith 16:21
79%. Okay. When a woman marries a man in the United States, it’s more common than it used to be for her to keep her own last name. But according to a Pew Research study around 79% Still adopt their husband’s last name in the study. 14% keep their last name and 5% hyphenate. Both names. And more than 90% of men keep their last names with 1% hyphenating and 1%. Taking their spouses last name. Wow. Yeah. Okay.

Bob Smith 16:52
Now you used to hyphenate. Your last name. When you started? Yeah. When we started. You were in journalism. And it was Marcia Drew and Smith.

Marcia Smith 16:59
Oh, yeah. You’re right. The newspaper? Yeah, absolutely. When I would had a byline, I would do it because I wrote under my maiden name for a long time and I wanted to have that recognition from my Legion. A follower.

Bob Smith 17:13
Legion, not Legion. Legion is something else. All right, Legion is something you need to go to the doctor. Okay. All right. I have a couple of questions for you here. But tourist attractions. This country has the largest Gothic church in Northern Europe. What country? And how much time did it take to build?

Marcia Smith 17:31
Okay, say it again?

Bob Smith 17:32
What country has the largest Gothic church in Northern Europe? What country and how much time did it take to build?

Marcia Smith 17:39
Well, I read Pillars of the Earth and am I wrong? If I say England or Great Britain? Yes, you are. Oh, is it Spain? Is it Catholic? Yes,

Bob Smith 17:50
of course. It’s Catholic. It’s an old church. Yes. What country motion? I don’t know. Germany. Oh, Germany is the country and the church is the Cologne Cathedral. It’s famous twinspires dominate the city skyline. It took more than 630 years to build. My word started in 1248. Was it done till 18 ad, and about 6 million people visited each year to witness its artworks and artifacts.

Marcia Smith 18:18
And Bob, Mr. Smith, according to the American Thank you.

Bob Smith 18:22
That’s what I expect on this show.

Marcia Smith 18:26
Respect. All right, Mr. Smith. Yes. According to the American Kennel Club, what are the most popular breeds of dogs today? Can you name any of the top five?

Bob Smith 18:35
Oh, let’s see. This is America cocker spaniels? Are they still on the list?

Marcia Smith 18:39
Not on the top five. Not on the top five. They are cute, aren’t they? Do we have something

Bob Smith 18:44
like German shepherds or something? Number four. Number four. I’d say Golden Retrievers have to be on there.

Marcia Smith 18:50
Those are three number three Scottish terriers or something like that. No. Okay. I don’t know what what. Okay, the number one dog is French Bulldogs. French Bulldogs. their cute little thing. I saw a picture of them, but I don’t know anybody with a French Bulldog. I don’t know what they even look like number two Labrador Retriever Golden Retrievers. Number three for German Shepherds. And number five, the poodle.

Bob Smith 19:13
The poodle is one of the top five. Yeah, I

Marcia Smith 19:16
wouldn’t have guessed that. Wow. And the bottom of the list. Bob comes in at 199 It’s the English FOXHOUND. Poor guy. Yeah. Sometimes

Bob Smith 19:26
contests lead to advances in technology they have in the past anyway. I mean, I think back to that contest, I think it was a Napoleon had he wanted to have a way that they could protect food for their armies and somebody came up with a tin can you know the whole idea that that was a contest. Okay. So how did a York Pennsylvania inventor advance railroad technology with a contest?

Marcia Smith 19:51
Um,

Bob Smith 19:52
what did he build?

Marcia Smith 19:53
What did he build? He did this and switching device

Bob Smith 19:57
No. 1832 Phineas Davis was his name any he’s known in New York, Pennsylvania. He’s a local hero.

Marcia Smith 20:05
Okay. What did he do? The it wasn’t the steam engine. Well,

Bob Smith 20:09
it was a coal burning locomotive. Okay. Yeah. Which is essentially a steam engine on wheels. And I’m right. The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad offered a $4,000 prize to anybody who could invent a successful coal burning engine up into that time only wood was used. That’s a lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, Wood was harder and more expensive to harvest ship and store than coal which could be mined by the time. He imagined cutting down trees to put in a locomotive and it burns fast. He built his coal powered steam engine in July 1832 at his foundry in New York, and when it was finished, it had to be taken by wagon to Baltimore because no trains connected the cities in 1830 Nights okay, but after he won the contest, the b&o Railroad made him manager of their shops and he began building all kinds of insurance in them. So he became very successful his name again, Phineas Davis. Sadly, three years later, while testing one of his engines, he died when a wayward rail caused a train to wreck. He was only 40 years old. He could have been one of the great inventors of the 19th century. He died, Phineas Davis, and he won a contest to build the first coal powered locomotive.

Marcia Smith 21:18
It’s time for who am I? Whoa,

Bob Smith 21:23
gosh, that scares me. I just shiver every time I hear

Marcia Smith 21:26
that, I thought was just because you’re looking at me. All right. Yeah, all right. This writer, critic and humorist once arrived simultaneously at a narrow doorway with the playwright journalist and politician, Clare Boothe Luce Age before beauty said Mrs. Luce pearls before swine proto writer gliding through the doorway. Who is this person this writer critic and humorous who was it? Was

Bob Smith 21:53
it eventually Robert Benchley Laney chan now? Was it one of the Marx Brothers?

Marcia Smith 21:59
Sounds like Groucho It does, doesn’t it? But no, it was the fabulous Dorothy Parker.

Bob Smith 22:05
Oh, I thought you said one was a man and one was a woman. No, I

Marcia Smith 22:07
always careful not to do that. That’s why I was. These are

Bob Smith 22:11
two women going through it once at age before beauty and the other one said pearls before swine. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Marcia Smith 22:17
That was Clare Boothe Luce, who said, you know, Age before beauty to stab it. And she just oh man got her right back. That’s quick thinking. And I like quick thinkers. Okay, quick thinkers

Bob Smith 22:28
in an awkward situation. Speaking of awkward situations, we’ve got all this technology today. How do people want to handle difficult interactions? Now we have voice to voice with video we have face to face. And we have word to word. So how do people want to handle interactions? There was a study done in Australia, of the people who are 18 to 26. How do they prefer to handle unpleasant dialogues? Text? That’s exactly right. Text instead of phone nearly half said phone calls made them anxious. Yeah. Isn’t that interesting?

Marcia Smith 23:03
I’ll give you choices with this one Bob. This stone structure was designed to protect Roman interests in Britain. Was it N tones wall, Stonehenge Roman baths, or Hadrian’s Wall? I thought it was Hadrian’s Wall. And you thought correctly?

Bob Smith 23:20
Yes. Well, you know the story behind that they were trying to go north and trying to tame the Scots and they just couldn’t do it. The Romans the greatest army on Earth. They couldn’t deal with the Scots people. So they pulled in Indiana Jones. They said we’ll just build a wall behind it. It’s funny don’t have to deal with these people. That’s

Marcia Smith 23:39
good. All right, Warwick Castle, one of the best preserved castles in England became a museum in 1978 when it was purchased by Ripley’s Believe It or Not the Walt Disney Company, Madame Tussaud’s group or the National Trust?

Bob Smith 23:56
I would think it would be the National Trust that’s like the Smithsonian bioethics in our country.

Marcia Smith 24:00
Right. But you’re wrong. It was madam to so Oh, no kidding. Yeah, they bought it and fixed it all up. We went to the Madame Tussauds Museum and Oh, that’s right. The kids there. That was fun. And they were posing with Einstein. Yes. And other people. Yeah.

Bob Smith 24:14
I’m going back to texting here. You know, we talked about texting. And that’s something we use a lot these days. I know you and I do with our kids and so forth. How long has it been possible to text multiple people simultaneously? There was a time when you could only text one person at a time. So how long has it been? Since you could text multiple people simultaneously? Six years. It’s been longer than that. Okay, tell me and you can thank Apple computer for that Apple launched the modern smartphone in 2007. And in 2008, it made it possible to text message multiple people at the same time with its I message system, so it collapsed group conversations into a single organized chain. They also pioneered the transmission of photos, videos and audio notes. via text to Yeah,

Marcia Smith 25:00
Bob, the biggest loss of life on a naval ship that was not in combat was what vessel? Was that the Lusitania? No, you know, this one the Titanic? No 306 people disappeared. Okay, what was it? The USS Cyclops?

Bob Smith 25:18
Oh, the one we talked about. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 25:20
that was the one that disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle or 300 people were on the 306 Wow. disappeared without a trace sometime after March 4 1918. And it remains a mystery today. Geez, I didn’t know there were that many people missing? Yeah, it just there was no debris, no trace of it from anywhere and nothing was ever recovered. Okay,

Bob Smith 25:42
back to texting one more thing. The first time there was actually a text message as opposed to Tata, Tata, Tata telegraph, when it actually printed out when it was actually transmitted and printed out as a sentence. When did that begin? 1935 It was 1926 and it was Germany Telex. telex, whose name means telegraph exchange. That was a public network of tele printers. And it began in 1926 as a research and development program in Germany, so the German government launched it as a service in 1933. And then later, it’s spread around the world. But that was the first time you could actually text a sentence to somebody. Okay,

Marcia Smith 26:22
that goes back farther than I thought. Anything else?

Bob Smith 26:25
I’m looking forward to your wisdom in a quote. Well, actually,

Marcia Smith 26:29
it’s the wisdom from one of my favorite people, Lao Tzu from 200 BCE, Bob. Oh, he was just strolling by here the other day. And he wrote the Tao Te Ching, which roughly translates from ancient wisdom to the book of the way, okay, okay. If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. Oh, I love that. Isn’t that nice?

Bob Smith 26:56
That’s a nice way to look at not being anxious, right? Yeah. Could you read that again? Sure.

Marcia Smith 27:01
If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. That’s

Bob Smith 27:10
just beautiful. I love that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that great Thought for the Day. Varshney

Marcia Smith 27:15
and Lao Tzu we hang out. We talk philosophize,

Bob Smith 27:20
we hope you’re hanging out with us again when we return next time I Bob Smith. I’m Marcia Smith joins us again when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarbrook Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, visit us on the web at the off ramp dot show.

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