Bob and Marcia Smith discuss the complex legacy of Sam Houston, an American historical figure, and the origins and evolution of the peace sign, a symbol of nuclear disarmament and anti-war movements. They also delve into various cultural and historical aspects, including the naming of the New World, the origins of Neapolitan ice cream, and the impact of legalizing marijuana. Through their conversation, they explore themes of cultural significance, historical accuracy, and the importance of understanding and appreciating the past.
Outline
Historical figures, including Sam Houston and Martin Waldseemüller, and their contributions to American and world history.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss Hitler’s obsession with kidnapping Clark Gable during World War II.
- Clark Gable flew missions over Europe as an aerial gunner and produced combat footage for a film.
- Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith a trivia question about Sam Houston, a former president of the Republic of Texas and governor of two US states.
- Marcia Smith is impressed by Sam Houston’s diverse and complex legacy, including his time with the Cherokee Indians and his role in the Texas Revolution.
- Marcia Smith: Amazon River has no bridges due to dense rainforests and seasonal flooding.
- Bob Smith: German mapmaker named America in 1507, recognizing it as a new world.
Canadian food, Japanese conformity, World War II novels, IRS catch-22, zipper history, and marijuana impact
- Marcia and Bob discuss poutine, a Canadian dish, and conformity in Japanese schools.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss World War II novels and the IRS catch-22 rule regarding property value.
- The IRS requires reporting property value as income, but returning it to the rightful owner before the end of the year avoids this requirement.
- Marijuana legalization leads to increased sales of snacks and sweets.
US presidents, peace signs, and country music radio play.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss various presidential programs and their corresponding presidents.
- They also test each other’s knowledge of historical events and figures.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the origins of the peace symbol, created by Gerald Holtam in 1958 as a visual representation of nuclear disarmament.
- Marcia Smith shares the interesting fact that the number 30 in copy or newspapers indicates the end of a piece, dating back to telegraph codes in the 1800s.
- Marcia and Bob discuss country music, with Marcia expressing surprise at low percentage of female artists played on country radio (9.8%).
- Study shows only less than 10% of country music songs played on radio are by women, despite many female pioneers in the genre.
Beer trivia, Neapolitan ice cream, and Franklin D. Roosevelt’s quote on drinks.
- Marcia and Bob discuss beer-related topics, including the patron saint of brewing and craft brewer definitions.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss Neapolitan ice cream’s origins and popularity.
- Bob Smith shares a quote from President Franklin Delano Roosevelt about the need for alcohol after Prohibition ended.
- The hosts invite listeners to contribute to their show with quotes, questions, or tidbits of information.
Bob Smith 0:00
Who is the only American to be elected Governor of two states congressman from two states and president of another country? What’s the story?
Marcia Smith 0:10
What’s the story Morning Glory? What actor did Hitler want kidnapped during World War Two ah,
Bob Smith 0:16
answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith
Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Well, Marcia, Adolf Hitler wanted to kidnap. Uh huh. An American actor. I think I know who that was.
Marcia Smith 0:57
But who?
Bob Smith 0:58
Clark Gable.
Marcia Smith 0:59
How did you know? Well,
Bob Smith 1:01
he was in World War Two. Yeah, he was on some bombing missions, I believe and I Hitler wanted him down and captured. Yeah, I thought that would really say something. The German
Marcia Smith 1:10
dictator was well known for his obsession with movies and was a big fan of American and British movies. Wonder why not German films. They were usually very depressing. And he was such a fun guy. During World War Two, the pure even concocted a plot to kidnap the Gone with the Wind star. He offered a $5,000 reward to anyone who could capture Gable and deliver him unharmed to Germany. Whoa, what Hitler wanted them for? Nobody knows. But it’s probably safe to say that the actor did not return the admiration No,
Bob Smith 1:47
I think Clark Gable said something about he felt he would be a monkey in a cage. He was haunted by the whole thing. Oh, I
Marcia Smith 1:53
would be too. He enlisted as a private and he was older. He attended officers Candidate School and trained as an aerial gunner. So he was no wimp up there. Yeah. And against the wishes of a studio. They wanted him in a non-combat row. Gable flew missions over Europe and he produced Did you know this footage for the film combat America? Oh, okay. Well, he was Ghana.
Bob Smith 2:15
Well, he had a lot of people there in world war two that were American filmmakers there. Yeah, Frank camper did stuff like that, too. So did Jimmy Stewart of course. So
Marcia Smith 2:24
that was real footage in here, right. He was released from active duty and 44. So if Hitler wanted him captured 5000 bucks to the person would bring him home a lot, which was a lot more money back then. Oh, absolutely. No wonder it freaked out. Clark. Yeah. Think of the Chancellor of Germany once you kidnap that would freak you out, frankly,
Bob Smith 2:46
my fear. I don’t want to be kidnapped. Okay, Marsha American history, put your thinking cap on, who is the only American elected Governor of two different states? And I asked this question of somebody who’s pretty well steeped in history, and he didn’t know the answer either. So let me tell you again, who is the only American elected Governor of two different states. He also represented those two states in the US Congress. Oh, and one more clue. He was president. He was twice president of another country
Marcia Smith 3:18
of another country. Another country that did me and I don’t know that when I was gonna go for somebody from Texas or something. He is from
Bob Smith 3:27
Texas. There. I got that. He was known for Texas. Okay. There’s a city named after him in Texas. Austin. No, no, Dallas. No, no. Light. Hold
Marcia Smith 3:37
on. It’s coming to me. Allerton.
Bob Smith 3:40
No, no, Houston. Oh, yeah. Houston, Sam Houston. He is a remarkable man in American history, and certainly has a mixed legacy. Listen to this as a teenager in Tennessee. He ran away from home and lived for three years with the Cherokee Indians. He became known as Raven. Really? Yeah. He was like a teenage brave Raven. And they didn’t kill him. No, he became one of them. Later, he served under General Andrew Jackson in the War of 1812. And despite his earlier association with the Cherokee people, he presided over their mass removal from Tennessee. Oh, you’re kidding. Wonder what they thought about that scoundrel. Wow. Then he went to Congress for Tennessee following that he served as the sixth the governor of Tennessee, and later the seventh governor of Texas. He’s the only individual in history to be elected Governor of two different states. What was the other state Texas and what? Tennessee, Tennessee and I said he was the he was the president of a country I said, right. Yeah. Yeah. What what country would that be? Ah, the Republic of Texas. Yes. Okay. He became prominent in the Texas Revolution against Mexico. And Sam Houston served as the first and third presidents of Texas and helped it become a US state. So Governor of two states can congressmen have two States president of another country, and the city of Houston. Now the fourth most populous city in the United States is named after him. Sam Houston. Fascinating. It is. I had no idea that he did all those
Marcia Smith 5:12
things. Me that he sounds like he should be like the biggest name in Texas. Yeah, well, I guess he is. Yeah. Quite a adventure. Yeah. And iconoclast. Okay. We recently talked about bridges, Bob, you talked about it on infinitum I know, but denial. It has nine bridges alone in Cairo. Okay. And more than 100 bridges have been built across China’s Yangtze River in the last three decades. So my question for you, Mr. is how many bridges you think had been built across the almost 4000 mile long Amazon River? Wow.
Bob Smith 5:47
Now that’s probably one where there’s not that many because most of that river that’s in the jungle, so maybe a handful, maybe three or four, maybe none? Well,
Marcia Smith 5:58
one answer, Bob, okay, three or four? None.
Bob Smith 6:01
Okay, there’s no bridges over the Amazon River. You
Marcia Smith 6:05
got it right. Well, there’s nothing on either side rain forests, dense forests. And it would be extremely difficult to build any bridge because the Amazon has both a dry season and a rainy season. And during the ladder, the water rises 30 feet, causing three mile wide crossings to grow by a factor of 10. So these areas were previously submerged. So they can’t possibly build a bridge that would work and fit the need. The
Bob Smith 6:32
longest river in the world has no bridge. Yeah, it’s amazing, isn’t it? It is alright, Marcia. Now my question. Yes. Why should we credit a German publisher for naming the New World?
Marcia Smith 6:43
All right. I don’t know Bob, tell me because he did. Simple
Bob Smith 6:48
as that. America was not named by an Italian explorer named America Vespucci? No. It was named in honor of him by a German mapmaker in a landmark book, Introduction to cosmology in 1507. That’s when the name America was introduced. And guess what the name America that is considered a feminine version of America. And this fellow who did the maps used a feminine form of America his name because the continents of Europe and Asia had feminine forms, too. Did you know that? No, they’re named after ancient princesses, really. So he said, I’m going to name this whole continent, South America at the time, America in honor of America, Vespucci who he just thought was the greatest thing since sliced bread, as far as navigators go. So that’s the guy who named it Martin volson. Mueller. He is the person who applied the name America to the lands of the New World. So thanks to a German book, Introduction to cosmology, America became the official name of the new world. Now, what are the differences between America Vespucci and Columbus? They were contemporaries, they knew each other. I don’t Columbus may have been the first explorer to reach the new world. But Vespucci was the first to recognize it as a new world because he went to his grave thinking he had been to Asia. Yeah, after all those
Marcia Smith 8:08
voyages even after multiple voyage, yes, I didn’t know that. But
Bob Smith 8:13
in letters published in 1503 and 1504 America Vespucci called the land, he visited a new world and he was the first to do so and he said that because there were distinct species, he noted that he’d never seen anywhere else and the plants and the animals and Italian Well, yes, I guess they were both Italian. Yes, you’re right. That’s how we got pizza. That’s so best beauty recognize the new world but a German mapmaker named it?
Marcia Smith 8:39
Okay, Bob. You ever hear a poutine? Poutine?
Bob Smith 8:42
Yes, he’s the guy runs Russia these days. Poutine it’s the food. Oh, poutine is a food.
Marcia Smith 8:47
Yeah, I only know what it is because I read books that have it in and I looked it up. Explain. Oh, see. Poutine is french fries, topped with cheese curds and gravy. Wow. Cheese. And it is the national dish of which country? I’ll give you choice. Okay. Canada, US Becca, Stan. Greece or China?
Bob Smith 9:09
I’d say Greece. Yeah. Poutine No.
Marcia Smith 9:13
What is it french fries, Bob. Canada.
Bob Smith 9:15
Hello, Kitty. Yeah, that’s a national dish. Yeah,
Marcia Smith 9:20
if I guess we don’t go over the border. And now I don’t think so. It’s a big national. They haven’t on a lot of menus up there. Cheese curds and gravy. Who knew? And they’re just our neighbors and I didn’t know. Does that sound good to you? No, me neither. No. Okay. But I suppose it’s a learned delight. Marcia.
Bob Smith 9:36
This is not a delight in which country is conformity? So strong. School students without the dominant hair color may be forced to alter their appearance that’s
Marcia Smith 9:46
got to be North Korea or China. It’s not
Bob Smith 9:50
either one of those. It’s not no, it’s Japan. Yeah, Japan black is the dominant hair color in Japan and in many Japanese schools. Now this comes from britannica.com. In many Japanese schools conformity is so highly regarded that students who don’t have black hair have to prove they’re not dying at a different color for God’s sand as if that wasn’t bad enough in some cases students with naturally brown here have been told by teachers to dye their hair black every week. No
Marcia Smith 10:20
stress on these kids. Conformity is very stressful. Again, the source
Bob Smith 10:25
for that information is britannica.com. This is a brand new thing I read just the other day
Marcia Smith 10:29
very forced conformity in some countries and it makes for a highly stressed it does happiness, okay, by visitors to this landmark, climbed to the top of a castle, then leaned backwards over the parapet to give it a kiss.
Bob Smith 10:45
Oh, that’s Scotland, isn’t it? And then that’s the what’s the snow? Is it Ireland?
Marcia Smith 10:50
I’ll give you the choice. It’s the Blarney Stone is you don’t need to.
Bob Smith 10:54
I don’t need your stinking choices.
Marcia Smith 10:56
Oh, you’re so talented. Explain that again. How does that work? You climb to the top of a castle and lean backwards over the parapet to give it a kiss. If you don’t do it, right. Yeah, your god they put up I think I read about a lot of safety things now because they did lose a few Horus. I can imagine it’s the Blarney Stone in Ireland. I wouldn’t mind going to Ireland. I haven’t been would like to. Okay,
Bob Smith 11:22
is that a hint? Yeah. Okay. All right. What are you talking about World War Two. What is the great interesting novels that came out of World War Two experience in 1961 was called Catch 22 by Joseph Heller. Do you remember reading that? Yeah, of course. Okay, the IRS has a catch 22. Regarding a crime, you must report if you commit it. What’s the crime? Well, a catch 22 is a regulation that creates a no win dilemma or paradox, right. Sort of damned if you do damned if you do. Yeah. So what’s the IRS catch? 22 rule
Marcia Smith 11:56
the whole 1040 farm?
Bob Smith 12:00
Yes, I’m sorry. Yeah, that’s true. It is, isn’t it? The old 1040 form is a catch 22? No. It’s regarding a crime, you must report if you commit it. Otherwise, you’ll be charged with evading taxes. What is it? If you steal property? Oh, you you got clarity. Internal Revenue Service requires you report its value as income when you file your taxes. You can avoid this by returning the property to the rightful owner before the end of the year.
Marcia Smith 12:27
Kidding. Funny to clarify, then you don’t have to declare it
Bob Smith 12:32
if during the tax, if during the taxable year you return the property. You don’t have to declare it that is
Marcia Smith 12:37
nuts. Isn’t that a year? Rule? Yeah. Okay. Deal
Bob Smith 12:42
property the IRS requires you report its value as income when filing your taxes. But you can avoid that by returning the property to the rightful owner before the end of the tax year. All right.
Marcia Smith 12:53
Well, that’s that’s a new one on me. Okay, Mr. History Chicago engineer with Tom Jetson. That’s a great name, patented the first zipper in 1893. And it exhibited at the were Chicago’s World Fair, a lot of stuff came out there and yes, a lot of things, but it was called the hookless fastener, and it didn’t catch on until BF Goodrich renamed it the zipper and put it down what they had
Bob Smith 13:20
boots that were called zipper boots. And that’s how it got its name. Rubber
Marcia Smith 13:25
galoshes. Absolutely right. Yeah,
Bob Smith 13:28
so the fastener itself wasn’t called a zipper until it was on zipper boots. Yeah, zip meaning fast. That was the term so hey, these boots are faster put on their zipper boots. And then the fastener became known as the zipper after that. Right.
Marcia Smith 13:40
Okay. Bravo, Bob.
Bob Smith 13:43
Glad I could tell you that. Yeah. Okay. Marcia, what impact has the legalization of marijuana had on states that have relaxed their laws? What has happened? Now, today? 24 states have taken that action. When answering that question. What has happened, folks tend to focus on tax revenues, crime rates, traffic accidents, but let’s look at what’s really important according to britannica.com, shortly after legalization US states which adopted recreational marijuana laws saw ice cream sales increase 3.1% cookie sales grew 4.1% and chip sales went up
Marcia Smith 14:22
5.3% That’s precisely why I don’t do it. No, but this is
Bob Smith 14:26
precisely what you could have predicted
Marcia Smith 14:28
Yeah, has something that would happen one cheese Oh, that’s how I actually
Bob Smith 14:31
have statistics or Nielsen IQ data shows that growth rates for both candy and snacks are rising faster in these areas than in geographies where cannabis has yet to be legalized for recreational use has gone up. 7.2% Nielsen IQ says that the edible hemp based cannabidiol products represent a $6 billion opportunity for the food and beverage industry. So it’s an opportunity to monetize the munchie sad Sit
Marcia Smith 15:00
monetize the munchies increase the taxes. Okay, well, very interesting. All right, Bob. Now I want you to match the president with the name of his domestic program. I’ll give you the program and you give me the present. Okay. Sure. The fair deal, the
Bob Smith 15:16
fair deal. The fair deal. That was, huh. That was either before or after FDR, because FDR had the New Deal. Was the fair deal, Woodrow Wilson.
Marcia Smith 15:28
Now,
Bob Smith 15:29
was it Harry Truman? Yes, it was okay. Okay. Very
Marcia Smith 15:33
good. Okay. You’ll get this one right away. New Frontier. Oh,
Bob Smith 15:37
the new frontier. We stand on the edge of a new frontier. That was JFK. That’s correct. Kennedy. Yeah. New
Marcia Smith 15:43
Freedom. New
Bob Smith 15:45
Freedom. New Freedom.
Marcia Smith 15:47
Who said that? Wow.
Bob Smith 15:49
I don’t know that one. Yeah,
Marcia Smith 15:50
I never heard of that. Who was that? That was Woodrow Wilson. Oh, really? Yeah. Didn’t know we had a plan. You know, some of these are just buried in history. Yes. Okay. Here’s one new No. New Deal. Yes, of course. FDR. Yes. And the square deal, which I never heard of
Bob Smith 16:07
square deal was, was that Herbert Hoover? That
Marcia Smith 16:10
was Theodore Roosevelt. Theodore Roosevelt.
Bob Smith 16:13
Okay, Edie Roosevelt. So he had the square deal. And then his nephew came up with the New Deal. So he played on that. Yeah, I see. Okay, the square deal a new deal. And then a fair deal was Harry Truman.
Marcia Smith 16:27
And how about the no deal president? The no deal President?
Bob Smith 16:29
Well, that that guy never got elected.
Marcia Smith 16:32
made no deal. Okay.
Bob Smith 16:33
I think it’s time for a break, don’t you? You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We’ll be back in just a moment. Okay. All right, we’re back. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We do this every week for the Cedarburg Public Library. Cedarburg, Wisconsin, because we believe in lifelong learning, they use our show on their internet radio station, Cpl. Radio every Monday night. And then our show goes on podcast platforms all over the world. Marcia, where? And when did the peace sign design first appear? Oh,
Marcia Smith 17:08
wasn’t the 60s? No, it was before that World War?
Bob Smith 17:13
No, no, three. No, it was in between wars. Oh, it was and it was a reaction to a new technology a new Wartime Technology. Oh, the nuclear bomb. That’s it. Okay. Yeah, it was created by an activist and designer Gerald Holtam for a march protesting nuclear weapons in England. He was out of England. This gentleman was a graduate of the Royal College of Art in London. He’d been a conscientious objector in World War Two. And in February 1958. While working for the British Ministry of Education, he created design for the British nuclear disarmament movement. So guess what it is? Does he know what a semaphore is? They use those flags back in the day on ships, you know, they would signal Yeah. Okay. So he basically overlapped the flag semaphore signs for the letters n and d meaning nuclear disarmament. Really? Yeah, the isn’t that clever. Visualize this. Now, when you use a semaphore flag, the n is signaled by two outstretched arms pointing down. Yeah, at 45 degree angles. Yeah. And then the D is signaled by one arm raised over the head. So that’d be like a solid line vertically, put those together, placing them over a circle background representing the globe, and you’ve got the peace symbol. That’s lovely. And from the beginning, he said he didn’t want it to be patented or trademarked. So it was public domain.
Marcia Smith 18:33
Yeah, that’s cool. And of course, it’s still used very much to this day. And by 1968,
Bob Smith 18:37
it was everywhere. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It became a symbol of the anti war movement. But originally nuclear disarmament.
Marcia Smith 18:44
They were ubiquitous. I had one in the 70s. Did you have one? Oh, yeah. They were mandatory if you were a college student, and
Bob Smith 18:51
because there was no protection for them. They’ve gone into everything from posters on sunglasses to packaging for Ben and Jerry’s piece. Pop cookie dough. That’s
Marcia Smith 18:59
great. Well, it’s a good thing.
Bob Smith 19:01
It’s a good. Gerald Holtam. The designer died in 1985 at the age of 71. Okay,
Marcia Smith 19:06
if you ever see that number 30 At the end of copy or the end of a newspaper article when you know in
Bob Smith 19:13
rough draft, yeah, I used to do that on my copy when I was on radio. Sure.
Marcia Smith 19:17
And I did it all the time in newspapers. But didn’t you ever wonder how did 30 come to mean that this was the end? That is a good question. Yes. Well, I have found the answer. Okay. And the answer is back in the 1800s. There were numerous telegraph codes for common expressions in the codebook for telegraph codes. 30 stands for finais or finish. Well, how about that 31 stands for do you understand? 32 is I do understand, so there were common expressions were given numbers for the telegraph code
Bob Smith 19:52
that was shortcuts just like lol means laugh out loud today and all the
Marcia Smith 19:55
1800s they had their own lol Yes, right
Bob Smith 19:58
because the operators We’re talking to each other. Yeah. So let’s invent some terms that are quicker. Faster don’t have to do
Marcia Smith 20:05
something the other day. I don’t even know what it was. And I put 30 at the end. I love old habits die hard. Oh, well,
Bob Smith 20:11
yes, yes. Okay, you got one. Yeah. For what it’s worth. Here’s a statistic on music, specifically country music. This was something that just came out. I just read it and I was surprised. You know, we all know the names of many great female stars of country music, even if you’re not big on country music. You’ve heard of Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette, and more recently, Dolly Parton, Shania Twain, Kelly Clarkson, Reba McIntyre, they were all big female country singers. Well, heck, even Taylor Swift. She started out as a as a country artist. So what’s the percentage of songs by women played on country music radio today? That’s the question.
Marcia Smith 20:48
I’ll say. I think it’s pretty even. But maybe it’s more, maybe there’s it does. I’ll say 65%. Oh, that’s
Bob Smith 20:57
pretty good. You think that with all those female pioneers, the ratio of female to male airplay on country stations would be something close to 5050? Well, you’ll be surprised at this. According to one study of industry data, just 9.8% 9.8% of airplay on country music stations in 2023 was songs by women.
Marcia Smith 21:19
I’ll be darned. I wouldn’t have guessed that because I don’t listen. So I don’t really Yeah, I haven’t listened
Bob Smith 21:23
to it a long time either. But less than 10% of country music songs played on the radio, not much diversity there now.
Marcia Smith 21:28
And when I do hear it, I think I’m hearing the same guy all the time. That’s right.
Bob Smith 21:32
They all sound alike. Now, some of those styles are very much like, I think Garth Brooks. I think he started that vocal quality he has and everybody imitated him for a while. Anyway. Not much diversity there. So only less than 10% of songs played on country music or female. Anyway, those are the facts. And that’s from an article entitled a radio station format that still plays gatekeeper. Yeah.
Marcia Smith 21:55
Okay, Bob. Ready? Yeah. Fear trivia. Oh, right off my placemat at Water Street Brewery. Oh, god. Okay. All right, Bob, how many 12 ounce bottles of beer? Can you get out of one half barrel of beer?
Bob Smith 22:13
How many? 12 ounce bottles of beer from a half barrel? Yeah. You should have asked me this when I was in college. I could have told you is take a half a barrel. Let’s see. Would that be like 20 bottles of beer 2012 ounce bottles of beer. I’ll say 25.
Marcia Smith 22:30
You think you’d go out and spend all that money on a half barrel and only get 25? Let’s say 50. All right. 50. Good guess. 165 baht holy cow.
Bob Smith 22:40
Well, I see that shows you how out of touch I am with overconsumption.
Marcia Smith 22:44
Yeah, you’ve temper. You’re just not a kegger guy. All right, who is the patron saint of brewing, Bob? Is it St. Joseph St. Anthony St. Paul or St. Arnold?
Bob Smith 22:54
I thought it was St. Augustine. You did? Well, he’s
Marcia Smith 22:57
not even in the listing here. Or maybe it’s a
Bob Smith 23:00
saint. St. Busch over in St. Louis.
Marcia Smith 23:04
Now Bob, it’s Arnie St. Arnold. Really? Yeah. Never heard of him that he’s a Catholic saint who was the patron saint of hop pickers. For Belgian brewers
Bob Smith 23:14
Oh of hop picker. So the people who work the fields Yeah, interesting.
Marcia Smith 23:18
And this I found interesting to be classified as a craft brewer in the United States. You must have an annual production of no more than how many barrels of beer Wow, there’s a maximum 1000 Barrels otherwise you’re now at Kraft I don’t know 50,000 6 million. Why? Yeah, 6 million barrels of beer or under and you can be considered a craft brewer. I
Bob Smith 23:46
thought it had something to do with the quality of the beer not in the way you made it. It’s the quantity its volume. Yeah, hold dear. I
Marcia Smith 23:52
had no idea that was such a big number to me. I double checked it with the Brewers Association. And yes, it is if you make 6,000,001 You’re not a craft brewer. All
Bob Smith 24:02
right, Marcia talking about something to consume food. I have another question. Okay. What famous ice cream is misnamed? Because people thought it came from the wrong country. We still call it this today. I’ll jump chocolate. That’s an ice cream Belgian chocolate. Sure. Where do you get that? I mean, no, that’s not the answer. Marsh so simple. I don’t know what ice cream was Miss named because people thought it came from the wrong country. Neapolitan ice cream. Oh, okay. Do politan is Latin for the citizens of Naples, Italy. And Americans in the 19th century called the three flavor ice cream, vanilla, chocolate, strawberry, Neapolitan. And they did that because they assumed it came to America with immigrants from Naples who were known for their expertise in frozen desserts. But actually, Neapolitan ice cream was a German invention really so Neapolitan, the first ice cream to combine three flavors was created by the head chef of the Royal Prussian household. Louise Ferdinand you Jungus in 1839, He dedicated the recipe to first Pickler that’s the German name for Neapolitan ice cream is first popular ice. That’s the name. Okay. But people thought it came from Italians from Naples. That’s why they call it Neapolitan. I liked that ice cream. Oh, yeah, that was kind of exotic as a kid to get that
Marcia Smith 25:19
my family would buy that a lot. Because we, me and my brothers, we’d all fight I want chocolate, I would strawberry. That’s right,
Bob Smith 25:25
whatever your favorite flavor was, there wasn’t enough of it. But at least you got a little of it. Right? That’s
Marcia Smith 25:30
right. I’d slice it, you know, and divide it and okay, that’s funny.
Bob Smith 25:34
I don’t think that’s a big deal anymore. Because so many individual flavors people can get from Ben and Jerry’s and Baskin Robbins, and all the other places these days. It’s a totally different ballgame. But that was pretty exotic when we were kids. Ooh, three flavors at once. Then they’ve added nuts and stuff. It’s like, ooh, three flavors and nice, you know, and then went from there.
Marcia Smith 25:52
Okay, I’m going to finish with a quote from my beer trivia, placemat
Bob Smith 25:57
trivia. And then I’m going to do something for my Chinese dinner placement. No, no, I don’t just get
Marcia Smith 26:03
a year of the dragon. Yeah. Okay. And this came from President Franklin Delano Roosevelt when the US Prohibition ended in 1933. I know I’ve heard this quote. He said, quote, what America needs now is a drink. And it was true. Well, yeah. I think he kind of fudged on that law through the whole his whole president, I imagine in the White House. They were drinking. He had a little cocktail party every night. Yeah. Anyway, everybody was sneaking it but he said what we all need to doubt you know, to a little tool
Bob Smith 26:35
so they did a little toast. We’d like to toast you and thank you for listening to our show and welcome you to contribute by going to our website, the off ramp dot show, scrolling down to contact us and giving us a thought for the day a tidbit of information or a question you think we’d like to have one of us answer we’d love to do that. And we get great quotes and things like that from listeners all the time and have used them. Some people say Don’t say I gave you this. We don’t but we will if you do
Marcia Smith 27:05
they just don’t want all the fame Bob that
Bob Smith 27:07
I guess that’s it. I can understand that reflected on the street reflected glory from you and me. Okay, that’s it for now. Thanks again for listening. I’m Bob Smith. I’m
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Marcia Smith. Join us again next
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time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp.
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