Bob and Marcia engage in a thought-provoking conversation, exploring historical contexts and cultural significance. They discuss empathy towards animals, the origins of the term ‘ham’ in acting, and personal struggles of US presidents. The speakers also cover various historical events, pop culture phenomena, and transportation trends, highlighting the importance of empathy and historical understanding in shaping our perspectives. Through their conversation, they demonstrate the value of interdisciplinary dialogue and the richness of human knowledge.
Outline
Animal autobiographies and their impact on literature.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the Great Lakes Naval Airbase in Chicago, where 15,000 pilots were trained during World War II.
- Marcia Smith reveals that the US Navy converted passenger steamships into aircraft carriers to train both pilots and deck crew in the safety of Lake Michigan.
- Bob and Marcia discuss Black Beauty, a 19th-century novel written from a horse’s perspective, which was groundbreaking in its literary style and advocated for humane treatment of horses.
Music, history, and humor.
- Marcia and Bob discuss the thickness of ice sheets during the Ice Age, with Marcia providing information on its coverage and Bob expressing surprise at Cher’s longevity in music.
- Bob and Marcia discuss famous people who have made unusual requests, including composer Frederick Chopin’s fear of being buried alive and President Harry Truman’s quote “If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.”
Transportation history, food origins, and cultural trivia.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the history of emus in Australia and their conflict with the military in 1932.
- Marcia Smith explains the origin of the term “ham” to describe a bad or overly enthusiastic actor, citing the use of ham fat to remove stage makeup in the late 19th century.
- Bob Smith shares interesting facts about speed limits and paving technology.
- Marcia Smith joins in on the conversation, adding her own insights and questions.
- Marcia and Bob discuss pumpernickel bread, including its origins and digestive effects.
- Detroit’s Woodward Avenue played a major part in three stages of American transportation history.
Transportation milestones, Berlin Wall, and famous scientist’s astrology practice.
- Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss transportation milestones in America, including the first paved road and the first traffic light.
- Marcia Smith shares information about the Berlin Wall, including the number of people who escaped from East to West between 1945 and 1961, and the tragic consequences of the wall for those trying to cross it.
- Bob and Marcia discuss a future US president who slurred his speech during an inauguration, leading some to believe he was drunk.
- Galileo, a famous scientist, was also an astrologist, making him one of Europe’s most sought after astrologers in his time.
Various topics, including international law, remote cities, and Dow Jones companies.
- Bob and Marcia discuss the Hague, a city in the Netherlands, and its connection to the International Court of Justice.
- Bob explains that the US is not a member of the court and how this affects US military action.
- Bob and Marcia discuss the fastest growing period for children and the remote urban population of Honolulu.
- Bob and Marcia discuss Dow Jones companies, including MasterCard, Apple, and Boeing.
Bob Smith 0:00
What famous novel was one of the first written in the voice of an animal? And why
Marcia Smith 0:06
are there so many planes at the bottom of Lake Michigan?
Bob Smith 0:09
answers to those another questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob.
Marcia Smith 0:15
Hello and Marcia Smith. Sorry, dozed off there
Bob Smith 0:37
welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down, wake up, steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Well, Marcia, you just came alive there. And what was your question?
Marcia Smith 0:51
Why are there so many planes at the bottom of Lake Michigan? At least 411 aircraft more than any other great lake? Why think
Bob Smith 1:02
I know the reason was it because of the Great Lakes Naval airbase in Chicago. between Chicago and Milwaukee, they took the planes and tested them and flew them out and they were crashing.
Marcia Smith 1:13
Yeah, you’re right on the right track. Good for you. Yeah, I had some old boyfriends that went 15,000 young men were trained near Chicago during World War Two. The US Navy needed to train pilots to take off and land from aircraft carriers. Mm hmm. German U boats patrolled the East Coast. So the Navy turned to the Great Lakes for practice. In particular, Lake Michigan. I don’t think a lot of them died but they crashed in their crashed
Bob Smith 1:42
landed. And you’re right, the U boats. were sinking ships right and left in the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah. So they couldn’t use that.
Marcia Smith 1:49
Yeah, so they had to practice being on aircraft carriers. You have to learn how to do that get on and off. But
Bob Smith 1:56
aircraft carriers, how could they get through the St. Lawrence Seaway in the Soo Locks? I mean, those are bigger ships. Massive. So were their aircraft carriers in Chicago. Funny
Marcia Smith 2:05
you should ask that US Navy converted to passenger steamships into aircraft carrier, oh, to train more than 15,000 pilots and 40,000 deck crew so it had to train both people how to do this stuff. Wow. In the safety of Lake Michigan, so they
Bob Smith 2:22
kind of flattened off the top of these ships and tournament aircraft carrier. Yeah. Wow. That’s fascinating. Yeah, I
Marcia Smith 2:27
had no idea. Okay, Marsha,
Bob Smith 2:29
what famous novel not a children’s book was one of the first bestsellers ever written from an animal’s point of view. Do I know this book? You’ve probably read this book and I thought it was a children’s book, but it isn’t. It was written in 1877 Beatrix Potter. No, it’s not the Peter Rabbit books. Was it a bunny? No. It was written from the point of view of a horse. It was a horse’s autobiography. Well, Wilbur, no, it’s not Mr. Ed. Okay. It was black beauty. Really. I remember reading that as a kid.
Marcia Smith 3:01
I guess I did. I remember the movie. It was written from the
Bob Smith 3:04
point of view of a horse from its idyllic childhood. Through its trials as a horse being beaten while pulling cabs in London. To its happy retirement. I didn’t know that it sold 50 million copies worldwide in 50 languages. In the late 19th century, Anna Sewell wrote it to start a discussion on the humane treatment of horses, which were used for everything in the 19th century, farming, labor, freight transportation and they were often beaten mercilessly. But in describing the world through the eyes of a horse, she broke a new literary ground. She died only five months after writing it. But she lived long enough to see its initial success. Here’s the full title Black Beauty, his Grooms and companions, The Autobiography of a horse. Oh, no kidding. Now talking animals in literature goes back to Aesop’s Fables in 550 BCE. And actually, you can go back to the talking serpent in the Bible, Genesis. But when did animal autobiographies become a fictional genre? When Yes, what century?
Marcia Smith 4:04
19th? No, 18th
Bob Smith 4:07
That’s exactly right. You got it. What are the first was called The Life and perambulations of a mouse that was written in 1783. The biography of a spaniel in 1806 adventures of a donkey in 1850, Black Beauty in 1877, and the curious adventure of a field cricket at 1881. And almost all written to encourage people to think of animals in a different way more humane way.
Marcia Smith 4:33
That’s good. That’s good. Okay, Bob, during the Ice Age, remember that 20,000 years ago?
Bob Smith 4:39
I think I was in high school.
Marcia Smith 4:42
How thick Do you think the ice sheet was that covered Canada and most of the northern United States?
Bob Smith 4:49
You know, I think I read something about this and I thought it was going to be like two miles deep, but it wasn’t that deep. It was half a mile deep or three or 400 feet deep. How far deep was it
Marcia Smith 4:59
to Miles,
Bob Smith 5:00
just like I said, two miles deep,
Marcia Smith 5:04
two miles thick.
Bob Smith 5:06
That is a big freeze.
Marcia Smith 5:07
You know, it covered millions of square miles, millions.
Bob Smith 5:10
So I guess our old ancestors didn’t do too much ice fishing back then. Did they have a hell of a drill to do that?
Marcia Smith 5:17
People lived through that, especially if you’re in the southern hemisphere Well, or Africa, but up here not so much. Okay,
Bob Smith 5:24
Marcia, only two musical acts have had number one records in seven consecutive decades. So this is a pop music quiz.
Marcia Smith 5:35
So there are people not bands. One is a band. One is a band one is a person that’s correct. Is one. Barbra Streisand. No it isn’t. And the band. It wasn’t the Rolling Stone.
Bob Smith 5:48
The Rolling Stones is one of them. Yes. One ding ding for
Marcia Smith 5:51
Marchionni meaning and then one person male or female, female female. Okay, well, this
Bob Smith 5:57
surprises me because I always liked her. But I never thought of her being that big of a star to have records in seven consecutive decades.
Marcia Smith 6:04
That is hard to believe. Who was it? Cher? You’re kidding. No.
Bob Smith 6:08
Wow, one new number one song on a Billboard chart in each of the seven decades from the 1960s to the 2000 20s. So amazing, isn’t it?
Marcia Smith 6:20
Chips. He’s tramps and he did have she has a way of tapping into the time. Yes, she does. And obviously it worked. Well, good for her.
Bob Smith 6:30
Yeah, got another musical question went that sure what musician was so worried about being buried alive? He requested his heart be cut out of his body. Oh, God, once it was believed he’d passed away. Just to make sure he wouldn’t wake up in his grave. What decade are we talking? We’re talking the the 1800s he was a composer and a musician. He’s from Poland.
Marcia Smith 6:52
And wasn’t classical. Was he? Yes, he was. Oh, okay. That would be Stravinsky. No. Frederick Strauss, Frederick Chapa. Yes,
Bob Smith 7:03
Frederick Chopin. He had a very strong fear of being buried alive and while living in Paris. He requested that upon his demise, his heart be cut out of his body and returned to Warsaw to ensure he wouldn’t wake up after a false death in the grave. So his sister honored his request after his passing in 1849. She transported his heart back home, putting it in a jar of alcohol thought by many to be cognac and taking it back to Warsaw. So if you think I’m dead, cut my heart out. Cheese. Oh, I guess they if they think I’m dead. Wait a minute. Oh,
Marcia Smith 7:38
yeah. Oh, wait, stop. Stop the removal. Oh, Lord. Okay, who am I? Here’s a quote. If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.
Bob Smith 7:51
Let’s see this was a politician. Right was the president. If you want a friend in Washington get a dog. It wasn’t Lincoln. Now. It was. I think it was somebody with a interesting sense of humor like Calvin Coolidge. Somebody like that. No. Okay. Who was it? Harry Truman thought?
Marcia Smith 8:08
At all plain spoken wasn’t a
Bob Smith 8:10
plain spoken Harry Truman.
Marcia Smith 8:12
Was he the buck stops here? Yes, he was okay. And apparently the dog did too. Okay. In 1929 Lady Drummond hay, gained fame by being the only woman who made a round the world tourney? In what mode of transportation
Bob Smith 8:28
Her name was Drummond. Hey, yeah, Dr. u m, m o n D.
Marcia Smith 8:31
Ah ha ha why Correct.
Bob Smith 8:33
Didn’t help but okay, I just want to make sure I knew how to spell it. Obviously.
Marcia Smith 8:37
Two different is this an animal question?
Bob Smith 8:39
Oh, what mode of transportation? It was by balloon? No. Oh, that’s right. This is the woman who went around the world in a bicycle. No. Okay. This is the woman.
Marcia Smith 8:49
What do you mean by balloon? You mean a hot air balloon? Yeah.
Bob Smith 8:51
Hot air balloon.
Marcia Smith 8:52
Zeplin. Oh, no kidding. I didn’t know they could go around the world. Well,
Bob Smith 8:57
sure. They could go almost anywhere. Yeah, you have to have a place to dock and you have to have you know, people on the ground to help you at times. So I don’t know. Zeplin when was this?
Marcia Smith 9:06
1920 1929 Okay, okay, Marcia
Bob Smith 9:11
in 1932 What animals won a war with the Australian military? That’s right. 32 won the war. All right. Who
Marcia Smith 9:23
were they the kangaroos not the kangaroo. Okay. The right country but the wrong animal the wrong route. All right. It wasn’t the kangaroos but they have EU
Bob Smith 9:33
in the name. Be moves, Marcia. It’s true. The emos in 1932. An estimated 20,000 II moves plundered Australia’s wheat farms and so they call the military and to stop them. The Press dubbed the campaign the EMU war. Hmm. Well, the emus were smart, they were smart. They employed lookouts giving their herds to I’m gonna scatter and minimize the effect of the army’s machine gun fire. Because I’m quoting from Britannica this is true. The Lord eventually the cost of the operation became so hard to justify and the campaign became seen as so inhumane that the Australian military stood down and Australia’s emos won the EMU War II moves went back home,
Marcia Smith 10:22
and that’s the way it is the way it is. Bob, I sometimes call you this. Why do we call a bad or over enthusiastic actor a ham?
Bob Smith 10:34
You call me that?
Marcia Smith 10:36
I call you my Hambone. Sometimes
Bob Smith 10:37
I didn’t know
Marcia Smith 10:38
that. This is to your girlfriend’s or what? Oh, to your face, but my face or my little Hambone? Gosh,
Bob Smith 10:45
okay. That’s because you show up. That’s why you call her Hambone? Somebody who’s kind of showing off and having fun all the time. Why did they call them that? That’s
Marcia Smith 10:53
actually that was more reflective of a bad actor. He’s a ham overacting and so forth. Yes.
Bob Smith 10:59
Did I have to do with what they ate? No, no, no. What what is the answer, Marcia? Okay.
Marcia Smith 11:06
In the late 19th century, second rate actors couldn’t afford cold cream to remove their stage makeup. So they used ham fat, and they were called ham fatter. They put him fat, and it got off their makeup. No kidding. Yeah. So they were called ham patters and ultimately, it was just reduced to ham.
Bob Smith 11:26
So hams were like bad actors. They
Marcia Smith 11:28
were poor. In Maine. They were bad actors, but other actors
Bob Smith 11:33
couldn’t afford the cold cream or whatever. Yeah. Interesting. Is that a curious? Yes. And how things like that stay
Marcia Smith 11:39
that fascinate. Yeah, right. That’s Bob Smith. Ham. Oh, shut off.
Bob Smith 11:45
All right, Marcia, let’s talk speed speed. What’s the highest posted speed limit in the United States? And where is it? Well, I
Marcia Smith 11:53
guess I have seen ad, you have seen
Bob Smith 11:55
ad Where did you see that? When we were in? I said well, this is Big Sky Country. Marshawn. Tana? That’s right. It was 80 miles an hour. And I think that was the first time I’d seen it on a on sign. But the highest speed in the United States is 85.
Marcia Smith 12:11
And where is that like in? Nebraska? It’s in Texas, Texas.
Bob Smith 12:16
everything’s big in Texas, including the speed limits? Yeah, it’s found on Texas state highway 130. On a 40 mile stretch between Austin and San Antonio. That is the highest posted speed limit in the United What
Marcia Smith 12:28
is it again? 9085. Where I suppose if there’s nothing there?
Bob Smith 12:31
Well, you just defended all of Texas, if there’s nothing there? What do you mean is if it’s kind of a sparse, wide open spaces, space, elbow room say a lot of positive things.
Marcia Smith 12:43
I’m sorry. I learned from you will be one. Okay,
Bob Smith 12:46
a question. Now speaking of pavement, as I was, where was the first concrete Street in America? Ah,
Marcia Smith 12:56
I was wondering when you’d asked me that. Mm hmm.
Bob Smith 12:59
What state was the first concrete Street in America? It wasn’t St. Augustine. No, no, this was actually a street that was intentionally paved and concrete as a experiment to see how it would work. Yeah, it wasn’t New York City. No, it was in a small town small town, then I don’t know. It was in Belle Fontaine, Ohio. And I got that 156 miles north of Dayton in the 1890s. The paving process was invented by George Bartholomew. He learned about cement production in Texas. He moved to Ohio, and he found a very good source of limestone and clay there to create an artificial stone for paving. So his company, the Buckeye Portland cement company, they paid a portion of Court Avenue surrounding the Logan County Courthouse in 1891. And it worked and he was honored at the World’s Fair in Chicago in 1893 First place for engineering technology advancement in Paving Materials. And his technique was quickly adopted across the United States internationally. The first paved street, the first concrete Street in America.
Marcia Smith 14:01
I bet you they have a historical marker up there that you would love to see. It’s in my
Bob Smith 14:05
home state. That’s right, Marcia. That’s the concrete reality of Ohio Marsh.
Marcia Smith 14:10
Time for him. Yeah,
Bob Smith 14:11
it’s time for a break. Time to take a break. Okay. Okay. You’re listening to the off ramp with bobbin Marcia Smith.
Marcia Smith 14:16
That’s right. I’m awake now.
Bob Smith 14:20
She’s putting words after she’s supposed to speak now. Okay, very good. We’re back. We’re back. Yes, we’re back in force here on the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We do this every week for the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and it’s internet radio station, Cpl. Radio. And after it airs on Monday nights. We put it on podcast platforms, and it goes all over the world. All right, now you’re awake. All right. We talked about concrete.
Marcia Smith 14:50
I’ll talk about pumpernickel Okay, how did pumpernickel bread get its name Bob. What is a pumpernickel pumper
Bob Smith 14:56
nickel. Now that’s a good term pumpernickel. So we got a pump something pumping and you got nickel which is a mineral. Or an alloy. pumper nickel. pumper Nick. I don’t know I have no idea where that comes from. It’s
Marcia Smith 15:11
translation is a devil’s fart.
Bob Smith 15:17
You’re kidding. No pumper decal. That’s me. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, I like pumpernickel No, I don’t think I went nickel now originating in
Marcia Smith 15:26
Germany Bob. This dark and hefty bread combines rye flour, molasses and sourdough starter. it bakes at a low heat all day. Okay. German Baker’s of old acknowledge that this bread had gas inducing qualities. What was that again? It had gas inducing ability. Oh, tear, trying to be delicate here, ball.
Bob Smith 15:49
Gosh, this is from a gastronomical perspective. Yes,
Marcia Smith 15:53
yes. The Baker’s notice that they did a lot of wind breaking.
Bob Smith 15:57
I see when they were testing there. Yes. plumper nickel. Yes. So they called
Marcia Smith 16:01
it pump burn, which means to break when pumper they called it. And then nickel for goblin or devil. So if you put it together the translation reads devils fart. Oh god. I reference to how difficult pumpernickel could be on the digestive track. Put that on the bag. Oh
Bob Smith 16:20
my god. Yeah, you’re not gonna see that explanation. on your on your bread. pumpernickel bread guess what it needs temples fart Would you like some sliced or unsliced? Oh, my goodness. All right, I’m back to I’m back to streets and transportation. Oh, swell. Detroit’s Woodward Avenue, which you’ve been on, played a major part in three stages of American transportation history. Any idea what they were? Three different stages of transportation in
Marcia Smith 16:49
America. That’s probably started out as an Indian path. That’s
Bob Smith 16:51
right. The Saginaw trail a Native American footpath. But 100 miles long. Do you have any idea what cities that connected? No. What is now Detroit and what is now Saginaw. Okay. The second transportation milestone happened in 1909. And the idea there, it’s related to what we discussed earlier. Yeah, it’s
Marcia Smith 17:08
roads, car roads. Roads. What
Bob Smith 17:11
about a road for cars? What do you need a solid road?
Marcia Smith 17:14
South cement? Yes. Okay. It
Bob Smith 17:16
was the first paved road Okay. In America. What
Marcia Smith 17:20
was that other thing down in Ohio. That was
Bob Smith 17:22
the first concrete Street in it was just around the courthouse. That’s all that was. This went 27 miles. Okay, that was the third thing. The third thing was something to do with traffic signaling that was in 1919. The first stop sign or light, the first three color electric traffic light. All those things happen in Woodward Avenue in Detroit.
Marcia Smith 17:43
Thank you, Bob.
Unknown Speaker 17:43
You’re welcome.
Marcia Smith 17:44
Let’s go to the Berlin Wall, shall we? You
Bob Smith 17:46
don’t want to know the advantages of asphalt over concrete? Later.
Marcia Smith 17:49
Okay. Hello, talk, Bob. Okay, before the Berlin Wall went up, how many people escaped from east to west between the years 1945 and 1961. That
Bob Smith 18:04
was like a 16 years there before that wall went up. That’s right. But they had barbed wire and everything else. Yeah, people were getting caught in that it was horrible. There were 1000s I assume that went across
Marcia Smith 18:16
roughly 2.5 million people. Oh, my God really fled the state, a loss that threatened to up in the East German economy. Finally, after upwards of 65,000 citizens migrated to West Berlin, just between June and August of 61. They said that’s it. That’s too many East German leaders pushed Moscow to close the border and construct the damn wall.
Bob Smith 18:42
Well, it was a horrible country. They destroyed Eastern Germany. I
Marcia Smith 18:45
know why No. But here’s an interesting.
Bob Smith 18:48
So how many people did you say went across before they
Marcia Smith 18:50
built a 1.5 million? I
Bob Smith 18:51
had no idea was that many?
Marcia Smith 18:53
Then they said put up the wall. And they did. And that lasted for 28 years. That wall. That’s right. And how many people you think died, tried to cross the wall?
Bob Smith 19:02
I don’t know. That was hundreds. 1000s What? 100 people died? Well, that’s still terrible. Tragic. Yes.
Marcia Smith 19:08
Not that many people obviously tried. Well,
Bob Smith 19:10
it was huge. It was there. You can see it crossed it. So came
Marcia Smith 19:13
down in 1989. And Germany became whole again. And
Bob Smith 19:17
that’s where Ronald Reagan stood in front of it. So tear down this wall down that wall. All right, Marsha, what future US president slurred his words during his Vice Presidential Inaugural Address
Marcia Smith 19:30
slurred up because he had an impediment or because he was drunk because he was a little tipsy. Tipsy during the inauguration. Hmm.
Bob Smith 19:38
So this was in the 19th century. What future US president slurred his words. He’s not considered one of the greats at all. I don’t know. The man who succeeded Abraham Lincoln. Oh, that terrible guy Andrew Johnson. He drank three glasses of whiskey before his 1865 inaugural speech. He claimed it was to aid his recovery from a cold yeah, I got The call and his slurred speech led many in attendance to believe that he was drunk and several senators even called for his resignation at
Marcia Smith 20:07
that point, and he tried to undo Lincoln, sir. Oh, Lincoln’s work.
Bob Smith 20:12
He tried to undo the Civil War, a lot of stuff. And then he was impeached. He was the first president to be impeached to the crazy guy. If you read some of the things he said in speeches. Yeah, yeah. So
Marcia Smith 20:21
crazy isn’t new? No, it’s
Unknown Speaker 20:22
not? Well, here’s
Marcia Smith 20:24
a fun question. Okay. What famous scientist was also a sought after astrologist, famous
Bob Smith 20:31
scientist, also a sought after not astronomer, but astrologists. Yeah, yeah. So we’re talking about Virgo. All those? Yes. Okay. If it
Marcia Smith 20:40
helps, this guy was a Pisces, like your beloved wife. Oh, so
Bob Smith 20:43
he was a brilliant person. Yeah, but you say? Brilliant, charming and charismatic. Yeah. Wow. Have I atone for not getting you a Mother’s Day gift yet or? Okay, was this Hubble? No. Okay, who has Galileo?
Marcia Smith 20:58
Oh, no kidding. Yeah. He made some major scientific strides. Yes. Time, particularly in the field of astronomy, right with the telescope. That’s right. But he was also one of Europe’s most sought after astrologers in his time. So he gave readings, he wrote horoscopes for Italy’s elite. Oh my god, some of his astrological tools are even on display in the Galileo museum today in Florence. Wow.
Bob Smith 21:24
I didn’t know that. It’s so fun. Yeah, so he would tell you about the stars and then he would say what the planets are aligning with that means
Marcia Smith 21:31
I have consulted him for guidance on illness, travel, love and other major event. Oh, that is funny. He wrote birth charts, including for himself and his children. So inextricably,
Bob Smith 21:41
they were linked from the beginning astronomy and astrology. They have the same route. If they’re with Galileo, I had no idea. Oh, me that makes me think about it again. I want to think about that again. Okay, maybe I’ll think more seriously about those.
Marcia Smith 21:56
Oh, no. The ones in the new you know, the newspaper are nothing but the people who get your time and your date and really know how to study it. There might be something to it. I find it amusing. If it says something I like
Bob Smith 22:09
I believe it, but it’s not amusing when it’s bad, is it?
Marcia Smith 22:11
I’m sorry, you’ll probably die tomorrow stranger will be coming into
Bob Smith 22:15
your life. Alright, Marcia, what foreign city? Has the US President been pre authorized to invade?
Marcia Smith 22:24
Our base kidding me know, is this today yet?
Bob Smith 22:27
This is a result of the acts that Congress passed after 9110.
Marcia Smith 22:31
It’s a Middle East thing. No, it’s not. Oh,
Bob Smith 22:36
The Hague. you’ve ever heard of The Hague. And that’s where the International Court of Justice is. Yeah. Well, we’re not a member of that. We never joined it. The Hague is a coastal city in the western Netherlands. It’s the capital of the South Holland province, famous for the permanent home of the United Nations International Court of Justice. Well, there was an Act that was signed, it was a result of terrorist attacks on September 11 2001. The thinking was, since the US is not a member of that international court. An Act was needed to allow the President to order US military action against it to protect American officials and military personnel from prosecution or rescue them if they were taken into custody. It was signed into law by President George W. Bush on August 2 2002. And despite several attempts, it’s never been repealed. So we can go into the Hague anytime we want to apparently. Isn’t that weird?
Marcia Smith 23:26
Yeah, it is. That’s I think that’d be more common knowledge.
Bob Smith 23:29
Now. I always thought the Hague was the court. Uh huh. That’s the actual name of the city.
Marcia Smith 23:35
Why do they call it the Hague like saying, The Paris he wouldn’t say that?
Bob Smith 23:40
I know. I’m asking you. Oh, I don’t know. Okay. All right. The city’s original title was graven Hage, which translates into the counts hedge. During the Middle Ages, the city was known for its vast expanse of forests, where the counts of Holland indulged in the sport of hunting. The counts hedge. That’s what the Hague means. All
Marcia Smith 24:01
right, Bob, when tell me when do children grow the fastest during
Bob Smith 24:06
any given year? Yeah. Okay, I’ll bet it’s the summer. That’s when they grow because they get the most sunshine and fresh air. So I say in the month of July and August, the hottest months of the year, well,
Marcia Smith 24:17
depending on the study, spring in summer, because the sun is out longer, just like you said, Oh, and other thoughts about why kids are growing so fast, the food gets better. There’s more fresh food. There’s also more healthy activities in the summer and spring you could get outside and play.
Bob Smith 24:33
Alright, Marsha, I have a question for you. What island city? Island City AHA is considered the most remote urban population on Earth. Oh, dear Singapore. No, no, Singapore is in Asia. There’s a lot of people in Asia so it’s not remote. What island city is considered the most remote urban population on Earth, remote, so remote,
Marcia Smith 24:58
so it’s like in some days Didn’t Hawaiian island or some what was that? Some distant Hawaii?
Bob Smith 25:06
Alright what city though? Honolulu that’s what it would be marshy Darn
Marcia Smith 25:09
I didn’t expect to get that one.
Bob Smith 25:11
Yeah, Honolulu. Hawaii is the most isolated urban population center on earth. Because its citizens are 2390 miles from California 3800 miles from Japan and 4900 miles from China. You know, we’ve been there you we know that it is isolated, but you don’t think of it being the most isolated urban population on
Marcia Smith 25:34
earth. It is very urban, isn’t it? There’s this freeway. Yeah, all these things going on here and all the Downtown it’s like New York City. It
Bob Smith 25:41
was beautiful. Wonderful. But yeah, that is the most isolated urban population on earth. All right,
Marcia Smith 25:47
Bob time for aka also known as Okay, the category today is Dow Jones companies you’d like this All right. For instance, if I say MasterCard rival you’d say MasterCard, right visa. That’s right. That’s a Dow Jones companies are
Bob Smith 26:06
listed on the Dow Jones Stock Exchange. Okay, good. Okay. Teachers,
Marcia Smith 26:09
fruit, teachers, fruit, Apple, Apple Magic and Dwayne. Match. You can Dwayne, you know, this magic
Bob Smith 26:17
and Dwayne Johnson and a Johnson. Magic Johnson and Dwayne Johnson. Okay. Because the movie star and the basketball player. Very good.
Marcia Smith 26:25
I get it now. Military information. Military information. Dow Jones company military information at Dow Jones coming out with this. I think you’ve visited them. I’m not sure. Oh, really? Intel.
Bob Smith 26:38
Oh, yes. I have. I’ve been in Intel plants. Yes. Okay.
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Sound a spring makes Boeing
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Boeing aircraft. Okay, gotcha.
Marcia Smith 26:47
And finally, my favorite mini flaccid word, mini
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flaccid? Uh huh. Oh, Microsoft.
Marcia Smith 26:57
All right, I have a quote to wrap it up. Okay. It’s actually a model. And it comes from the Mayflower coffee shop. They were in New York In New Jersey in the 1920s and 30s. All right, and their motto was as you travel on through life, brother, whatever be your goal. Keep your eye upon the doughnut and not upon the hole.
Bob Smith 27:19
I love that. That’s great. Keep your eye on the doughnut and not on the hole. Good luck to him. As we leave this episode of the off ramp. We hope you’ll join us again next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. I’m Bob Smith.
Marcia Smith 27:36
I’m Marcia Smith, you’ve
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been listening to the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarbrook Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, visit us on the web at the off ramp dot show.
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