230 Crazy Time Trivia

Bob Smith 0:00
How long were pig bristles used in toothbrushes and which world famous snack

Marcia Smith 0:05
food was invented at Disneyland.

Bob Smith 0:08
answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith.

Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. And today is our 230th episode of the off ramp. Marcia. Really? Yeah. Oh,

Marcia Smith 0:47
my word Time flies, doesn’t it? Well,

Bob Smith 0:49
are you having a good time? That’s the question.

Marcia Smith 0:52
I have to get our next office party ready.

Bob Smith 0:55
Because you weren’t too happy about doing this when we first began. You’re a little reluctant. I’ve

Marcia Smith 0:59
evolved. Okay. We’ll have a party on the 250th. Okay, that sounds good. Okay, good. I’ll

Bob Smith 1:04
start gonna have to wait for another 20 more weeks before

Marcia Smith 1:07
we have a party. That’s right. All right, but it’ll be a big one.

Bob Smith 1:10
Okay. All right. Let’s get to the topic of conversation for today. We have several good questions we started with there. My first one is this. We have spoken on this podcast before that. The original toothbrushes used pig bristles for the brushes.

Marcia Smith 1:25
And it’s correct. You could have bacon in the morning and then brush your teeth are with the same animal. Well,

Bob Smith 1:30
how long were pig bristles actually used in toothbrushes?

Marcia Smith 1:34
Well, pretty long. I’ll bet I’ll say 2000 years. No, it’s not. 1800 12

Bob Smith 1:43
This information is from the Library of Congress. Okay. I recently stumbled upon a page entitled, who invented the toothbrush with a lot of interesting stuff. The toothbrush goes all the way back to 3000 BCE. And that’s when ancient civilization used a chew stick, which was twigs with a frayed end, but the modern toothbrush, quote, modern unquote, was invented in China in 1498. And the bristles were stiff, coarse hairs taken from the back of a hogs neck and attached to handles made of bone or bamboo. Now I know what you’re thinking, though. Wow, how primitive. So how long were the pig bristles used by people to brush their teeth? Okay, I don’t know. Until 1938. Really? That’s right. The Library of Congress unambiguously states, boar bristles were used until 1938. Which means your family, your grandparents, your great grandparents, and if they were alive in 1938, your parents brush their teeth with wild pig

Marcia Smith 2:43
bristles. Wow. Okay, well, that surprises me.

Bob Smith 2:46
So what happened in 1938, then nylon? That’s right. That was the first nylon toothbrushes introduced by DuPont and the first nylon toothbrush was called Dr. West’s miracle toothbrush, which it was because you weren’t brushing your mouth with pig bristles anymore. When was the first electric toothbrush?

Marcia Smith 3:05
I’ll say the 60s 68 everything else happened then?

Bob Smith 3:10
About right. The first American Electric Toothbrush was marketed by the Squibb company in 1969. broxtowe dent it was called roxo

Marcia Smith 3:18
Dan Okay, and the food Bob, what famous snack food was invented at Disneyland. The famous

Bob Smith 3:25
snack food invented at Disneyland it’s not cotton candy, is it?

Marcia Smith 3:31
No, I’ll give you some choices. Okay how sure? Fritos Pringles bugles or Doritos?

Bob Smith 3:37
I’ll bet it was Pringles No. Oh, I bet it was bugles. No, I’ll bet it was Doritos.

Marcia Smith 3:43
Yes,

Bob Smith 3:44
that’s for you. Thank you very much. It just gonna popped into my head. Yes,

Marcia Smith 3:48
the happiest place on earth invented the beloved Dorito in the early days of Disneyland they had a restaurant named caso de Fritos. Vans of Fritos. Yeah, House of Fritos, right. They invented Doritos by repurposing stale tortillas they bought from a local vendor. They killer Yeah, they couldn’t go through a mall. So somebody I think from the local vendor said why don’t you just heat those up instead of throwing those all the way in the garbage can?

Bob Smith 4:16
Well, that’s just like the whole kinds of things were invented that way. Yeah, that was

Marcia Smith 4:21
such a waste so they did they heated them up and Chris the mop and the chips were so popular. They were eventually rolled out by Frito Lay in 1966

Bob Smith 4:32
rolled out did they crunch when they rolled them out? Or no?

Marcia Smith 4:35
I don’t know.

Bob Smith 4:39
66 and it was Disney Land. That’s where they got their start. I

Marcia Smith 4:42
didn’t know that or no end to the magical kingdom. Okay, Marcia,

Bob Smith 4:46
what sound makes beavers get to work. There is a sound that makes beaver start working.

Marcia Smith 4:54
The wife yelling do something.

Bob Smith 4:58
That’s Mr. Beaver Yeah, and Mrs. Be very shouts to Mr. Beaver correct

Marcia Smith 5:01
Get your butt off Get your damn get your tail working. No, I don’t know, running water. Really this is according to my they’re working all the time like a busy beaver This

Bob Smith 5:12
is according to britannica.com the sound of running water will make beavers start to build even without water around. mammalogists Lars Wilson plays stereo speakers in various parts of a terrarium, and the beavers would instinctively build over the speakers thing. When he played water sounds. They just started building over the speakers put

Marcia Smith 5:34
him in the bathroom and keep flushing the toilet and they build a little think what you

Bob Smith 5:38
could do if you could train these beavers to work every time you play water, just water sounds that’s fast do some home repairs or something? You know, I

Marcia Smith 5:45
have five year you know, the American Gothic painting the Yeah, the guy and the gal and the painting with a

Bob Smith 5:53
pitchfork. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 5:54
Who do you think those are? Well, that’s

Bob Smith 5:56
the neighbors of the artist. Yeah, but

Marcia Smith 5:59
who are they to each other?

Bob Smith 6:01
Their brothers and sisters, aren’t they?

Marcia Smith 6:02
I thought they were husband and wife, their father and daughter. Oh, really?

Bob Smith 6:05
Okay.

Marcia Smith 6:06
Poor daughter. Didn’t look really young in those days did she know looked a little severe and look really happy. When your dad says pose for this picture? It’s just like our kids. Right? That was the artist Grant Wood grant

Bob Smith 6:20
woods from Iowa?

Marcia Smith 6:21
I guess so. But here’s the question. Where does that famous Grant Wood picture? American Gothic hang?

Bob Smith 6:28
Where does it hang today? Yeah. Is it in the National Gallery in Washington DC? Or is it in New York City somewhere?

Marcia Smith 6:35
I’ll give you clues. Was it the National Gallery of Art, The Field Museum, Smithsonian Institute or the Art Institute of Chicago.

Bob Smith 6:43
Wait a minute, that reminds me that reminds me.

Marcia Smith 6:46
I thought it was Oh

Bob Smith 6:48
my god. It was in Chicago with the Art Institute, one of the worst moments in my parental life, my young parental life. And it was because of our son, Benjamin Christopher, who today loves art and lives in Los Angeles. We walked in there and Ben had seen that the American Gothic painting in a Kellogg’s cornflakes commercial and he ran right up and slapped his hand on the painting

Marcia Smith 7:11
why the the guards came out of the woodwork with that one did remember

Bob Smith 7:15
and there was that one rather large lady who stood there and she was not happy,

Marcia Smith 7:20
bent that they would be smiling at him. But they weren’t. No, nobody was.

Bob Smith 7:24
I just remember seeing him running up to that painting. He’d slapped his hand on it and it just killed me.

Marcia Smith 7:30
Okay, you got something, Bob? Marcia.

Bob Smith 7:33
This is an interesting little fact. What university is older than the Aztec empire? Say again? What university still in business today. Still teaching people today is older than the Aztec empire. Oxford? That’s it. All right. How many years? Do you think it’s been going? When do you think it

Marcia Smith 7:54
started a boy Marsha. Good job.

Bob Smith 7:58
Yes, Marcia. Oxford University is the answer.

Marcia Smith 8:01
I just need a little credit once in a while.

Bob Smith 8:05
Okay, Oxford University has been the site of teaching since at least 1096 1097 96. Ad. Was it the first university in the world? No, it’s one of the first and the Aztec capital was founded around 1325. So Oxford University is far older than the Aztec empire. It’s hard to fathom, isn’t it? By almost 600 and some odd years. Geez. 700 years almost cash. Yeah. It is hard to believe. Yeah. And what happened to the Aztec empire is gone. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 8:34
but that’s not no. Okay. They do a lot of murder mysteries. They’re on television.

Bob Smith 8:40
The BBC. I think they’re more murders in Oxford

Marcia Smith 8:44
than anyplace in the world according to BBC, right. All right,

Bob Smith 8:48
Marcia. When was watch manufacturing a deadly business now this was a question I recently saw online from britannica.com. And I thought, What is that all about? When was watch manufacturing a deadly business during one of the wars the great wars? It was in the 20th century. You’ll remember this because we’re old enough to remember these watches. Oh,

Marcia Smith 9:10
did it have it had something in it right? The lithium

Bob Smith 9:14
the appearance of the watch? Okay, tell me watches that would glow in the dark with the numbers. Is that lithium? No, that was radium there at radium painted watch faces. In the early 20th century, watchmakers hired women to paint clock faces with radium laced paint, it would glow in the dark. What could possibly go wrong? All these women became sick, many fatally. So from radium exposure, and they sued the watchmakers and eventually won a legal battle that became a milestone for occupational health and safety standards. I remember my folks had one of those watches. Yeah, I think my dad had one of those sort of glowing light green in the dark. Didn’t guys get sick too? Well, they didn’t work on the line. They hired women to paint these faces. Oh, this

Marcia Smith 9:58
is at the factory. I’m sorry. I missed that part. Yeah, when was watchmaking

Bob Smith 10:01
once a deadly business all right early in the 20th century. You can bind those watches in resale shops but don’t pick them up. They’re not safe to have you know, but it was very unsafe for the women who painted them.

Marcia Smith 10:13
Okay bad.

Bob Smith 10:14
Yes it is said I’ve got one that’s fun. Okay, what country forces its immigrants to watch nude video scenes.

Marcia Smith 10:23
Are you kidding me? No, it’s true. What country okay, there’s

Bob Smith 10:26
a country that forces its immigrants to watch nude scenes

Marcia Smith 10:30
to see if they like it and then they throw them out. Why

Bob Smith 10:34
would they do that Marsh? Why would you cause when

Marcia Smith 10:36
you get rid of the perps? No. I don’t know. Is this a Mideast country? No, no,

Bob Smith 10:44
the Netherlands people who want to move to the Netherlands they must first pass an exam that focuses on Dutch language and Dutch culture. Oh, that’s right. They’re pretty liberal. Yeah. And to help prepare for the nation’s liberal values the Dutch government provides potential immigrants with a two hour long video featuring among other things, same sex kissing and uncensored nude beaches. Wow. So if you decide I don’t want any of this stuff, don’t move here.

Marcia Smith 11:11
Wow. That’s interesting. Yeah, Netherlands you say the Netherlands

Bob Smith 11:17
that just go on your list places to go and curious mix of cultures there but that’s one thing you have to do as part of your indoctrination. All right, Bob.

Marcia Smith 11:25
All right. AKA Bob time for also known as Okay, the game manufactured by endless games.

Bob Smith 11:32
This is a real card game we use occasionally in family gatherings. Yes, it’s fun.

Marcia Smith 11:36
So the category is hotel chains. Okay, so if I say winter, spring, summer fall,

Bob Smith 11:44
I say four seasons that is correct, sir. Or or budget in? I don’t know which.

Marcia Smith 11:50
Stay with me here. Okay. Okay, here’s your clue. socialite Paris. socialite

Bob Smith 11:55
Paris. Hotel chain. hotel chain socialite? I’m trying Can you give me any other hints?

Marcia Smith 12:04
It’s a socialite? Yeah. Paris. Okay. I don’t know. Paris Hilton. Oh, my goodness.

Bob Smith 12:10
Oh, okay. I see. Right.

Marcia Smith 12:13
All right. To oak. Twin Oaks.

Bob Smith 12:16
Oh, wait a minute. It’s what is that called? We’ve

Marcia Smith 12:20
stayed there. I can’t remember to Oh, double tree. Oh, double

Bob Smith 12:25
tree. There we go. Yeah. Oh, boy. Okay, how about brain isn’t working good. I’m

Marcia Smith 12:29
winning. Number one cowboy movie.

Bob Smith 12:32
The number one cowboy movie. Oh my goodness. What’s wrong with my brain today? Number one, cowboy movies are hard

Marcia Smith 12:41
to translate into hotel hotel chains. Yeah, we’ve stayed at all these

Bob Smith 12:45
Ponderosa but they serve steaks and things. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 12:50
it’s best. Buy all the Best Western.

Bob Smith 12:53
Oh, my goodness. Number one. Number one cowboy.

Marcia Smith 12:57
Number one cowboy movie. It’s the best west of cheese. Oh my. Oh

Bob Smith 13:02
my goodness. All right.

Marcia Smith 13:03
Thank you through okay. Firm granite. Firm granite.

Bob Smith 13:07
Yeah. As a hotel chain. Yeah. Solid Rock. Carved rock hard rock. Okay,

Marcia Smith 13:14
you’re getting better. You’re like this one. Old home movie camera. What? Yeah, think it projector.

Bob Smith 13:22
Old home movie camera. Yeah. Kodak.

Marcia Smith 13:27
There was a name for this. instamatic?

Bob Smith 13:29
No wait a minute. I’m trying to think this through. Probably this is not working.

Unknown Speaker 13:34
Thinking coffee, please.

Bob Smith 13:36
I don’t know. What’s the answer? Super Eight. Oh my goodness.

Marcia Smith 13:41
Okay. Yeah. And finally, yes, canonised? Philbin.

Bob Smith 13:46
Oh my goodness. I’ve totally had a loss with that. Well, whose

Marcia Smith 13:50
was on TV all the time. Regis. Yes.

Bob Smith 13:53
St. Regis. Lauren. Oh, my goodness. I think I need a break. Now. That was good.

Marcia Smith 14:03
All right, that everything can’t be easy. It’s not like giving you presidential questions, which I have a couple for you which you will mail immediately. Okay,

Bob Smith 14:11
we’ll get those later. But first, your listening to the off ramp, time for a break and then we’ll come back totally refreshed. We’re back refreshed and ready to go to battle with more information, Marsha. Okay, you’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We do this every week for the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin. We’re dedicated to lifelong learning. And our show goes on their internet radio station on Monday nights. And then after that, it goes on podcast platforms where it’s heard. Oh,

Marcia Smith 14:42
all around the world. I miss my cue woke you up there. Here’s your happiest place on earth. Presidential questions. Okay. All right. I’ll ask you one who was the only president to be defeated by his wife As president, who

Bob Smith 15:01
was the only president to be defeated by his vice president? That was John Adams very defeated by Thomas Jefferson. That’s right. They split parties in that time. That’s right. But

Marcia Smith 15:10
they made up before they both die. Well,

Bob Smith 15:12
yeah. Can you imagine? Here’s a guy who’s been your vice president for four years, now you’re going to run for reelection? He goes, nope. I’m gonna run against you.

Marcia Smith 15:18
So it’s not against the law to run against your boss. Right. The president if you’re vice president, it’s just sort of always happen that way, except for for John and, Tom.

Bob Smith 15:28
Well, the vice presidential role at one time the person who won the ballot was the president became president. It’s right back in place was vice Prez? Yeah. So they were separate offices. Now, of course, they’re all linked together, the parties always link a ticket with two people. But it wasn’t that way originally. And obviously, it wasn’t that way and let 1804 is what it was.

Marcia Smith 15:49
They were pretty cranky. It was pretty cranky. But they did make up however, before they both died. And my favorite factoid, which I refer to constantly, before they both died on July 4 1826, the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

Bob Smith 16:06
Another amazing thing that if it was in a movie script, they go, no, no.

Marcia Smith 16:10
That can’t be real. You want me to ask you another presidential question? Sure.

Bob Smith 16:14
Okay. That’ll make up for some of those other things. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 16:17
Obviously, you’re not good at hotel chains. Bob. Okay, who was the only president to be the father in law of another president, the

Bob Smith 16:26
only president to be the father in law? Yeah. Another president. Yeah. Oh, this is a good one.

Marcia Smith 16:32
You never heard that one didn’t No, no. Oh, I gotcha. For Change.

Bob Smith 16:36
Is it the 19th century? In the 1800s? Yes. Was it somebody like William Henry Harrison? No. Tyler, John Taylor.

Marcia Smith 16:45
You’re close. It was Zachary Taylor. Zachary Taylor. Okay. He was father in law of Jefferson Davis. Yes. President of the

Bob Smith 16:53
Confederacy. That’s right. Okay. But he wasn’t President of the United States. No,

Marcia Smith 16:58
I didn’t say that. President.

Bob Smith 17:01
I say okay, that’s president of the Confederacy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So he was the father in law of the President of the Confederacy. Right. So it was Zachary Taylor’s daughters. Mara

Marcia Smith 17:12
married the president of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis. And Taylor bitterly blamed Davis for taking Sarah to Louisiana considered malaria country in the summer and that’s where she passed away after three months of marriage.

Bob Smith 17:27
Oh my goodness. He

Marcia Smith 17:27
was a little ticked off about Wow,

Bob Smith 17:30
I’ll bet about let’s go to

Marcia Smith 17:31
a malaria country for our honeymoon it well, you

Bob Smith 17:34
know, malaria was a very bad thing. I’ve been researching a lot of my family’s history and early southern Ohio and it was very bad there to be late. In fact, one of my ancestors had two or three children that just disappeared from the census. I assume they died because of the malaria Alright, Marcia, in what country? Is it an insult to be called a warm shower taker?

Marcia Smith 17:57
Is this current or old? Well,

Bob Smith 17:59
I don’t know. I assume it’s old but it’s in a country that

Marcia Smith 18:03
you warm shower taker you?

Bob Smith 18:06
What country do you think it is?

Marcia Smith 18:08
I don’t know. Worm

Bob Smith 18:09
is warm. dosha. Or say France? Warm dough shirt? No is Germany ah, a person with a weak constitution may be called a warm dosha or warm shower. The insult implies they couldn’t tolerate a cold shower. Yeah. Other German insults do describe somebody who isn’t tough enough include sock and Schleifer the sock sleeper Can I write that down? Second? Sock and Schleifer Yeah, person who sleeps with their socks.

Marcia Smith 18:37
I can call you this. I can remember that. I’m gonna write it down sock and here’s another one. Schleifer

Bob Smith 18:43
zebras. triflin. benoot ser, the crosswalk user. They don’t go from corner to corner. They crosswalk. These are all insults in German.

Marcia Smith 18:52
Second philosopher.

Bob Smith 18:54
You’d like that? Yeah, I’ll never hear the well my feet get cold at night. Okay. All right, one more. What food do the French call father’s Beard?

Marcia Smith 19:07
Beard. What? It’s

Bob Smith 19:08
not really food. It’s kind of a taste treat.

Marcia Smith 19:10
Cotton candy.

Bob Smith 19:12
That’s it. Okay, it’s called Barbra Papa which means father’s beard. Oh,

Marcia Smith 19:16
that’s an eyebrow Papa that’s not as good as second slot for a

Bob Smith 19:20
second Schleifer is pretty good. US Soccer and Schleifer

Marcia Smith 19:23
Hmm, why is suddenly stopping a bad habit Bob called Cold Turkey going cold turkey

Bob Smith 19:30
going cold turkey. Yeah. And that’s the term they always used for heroin and when you try to get off heroin and other drugs

Marcia Smith 19:37
How did that become a thing? I

Bob Smith 19:38
don’t know. We’re turkeys cold when they became very difficult. Yelling and turkeys so you don’t want to be cold turkey.

Marcia Smith 19:48
Oh and all can add that to your while you already have added Turkey to your turkey didn’t live repertoire. Yeah. Okay. The phrase first appeared in reference to drug withdrawal in 90 In 21, and the expression gained credence from the withdrawing addicts desperate looking appearance. They looked cold and pale and Pimply skin and that made them look like a cold, uncooked Turkey. Turkey. Yeah, that’s what’s weird came from you’ll look so bad that you look like a cold turkey.

Bob Smith 20:19
Oh my goodness. Think about that. Okay. All right, a cold uncooked turkey. That’s just an insult in itself. You look like a cold uncooked turkey. It’s better than a second slot for like be coming out of the shower. I look like a cold turkey.

Marcia Smith 20:34
I got jokes there. I’ll let it go. Okay.

Bob Smith 20:38
Marsha, speaking of military, how many military bases do you think the US has around the world

Marcia Smith 20:44
these days around the world? Does that include the US? Yes. Okay. 372 That

Bob Smith 20:49
would be a lot. But believe it or not, the US maintains roughly 800 overseas military bases, 800 different places, all different sizes. But to this day, this is from a book called How to hide an empire a history of the greater United States and that’s a current statistic the US maintains roughly 800 overseas military bases around the world. That’s a hell of an infrastructure, isn’t it?

Marcia Smith 21:15
I had no idea there were that many were always complaining about other country. Oh, they opened up. You know, military base. Well, we have 800 Yes, right. Hello. Okay. Did you know Bob, there are only 14 domesticated animals in the world. No. Yeah. How many do you think you can name?

Bob Smith 21:34
I think I can name none. Oh, yes. You can get 14 domesticated animals. Yeah. Okay, so we have dogs, cats. Yeah. durables or dribbles in there. No. Okay. How about salamanders? We had those in our house. No. Okay. Lizards? No. Oh, dear turtles. Now little turtles goldfish.

Marcia Smith 21:53
They lived in your house doesn’t mean they were domesticated. Did they listen to you? Did they did chores? Did they?

Bob Smith 22:00
know Okay, all

Marcia Smith 22:02
right. I’ll name them. Okay. Yeah. All right. Sheep. Goat sheep

Bob Smith 22:06
are domesticated animals. They do what you tell but they don’t live in your house. That’s right. Oh, okay. sheep,

Marcia Smith 22:10
goat cow, pig horse, Arabian camel. And the Bactrian camel. We had two of those now. That the llama and alpaca donkey reindeer water buffalo who domesticated the water bowl? Oh, I guess they were labor. beasts of burden beast of burden. Okay,

Bob Smith 22:30
I guess Yeah,

Marcia Smith 22:31
the Yak, the belly cattle and the Grail? Also known as the drunk ox. So the what the Grail? It’s that kind of ox okay,

Bob Smith 22:41
what was the belly? What was another one

Marcia Smith 22:43
that belly cattle? VA ally that’s a kind of cattle in belly. Oh, okay. So that’s the 14th and that’s it.

Bob Smith 22:51
There’s no zebras in there. I noticed.

Marcia Smith 22:52
That’s right and why they’ve never been tamed. Okay, can’t tame have they tried. Women are in there. They’ve never been tamed. That’s not even mildly amused. Okay, sorry.

Bob Smith 23:03
All right. Well, let’s move on.

Marcia Smith 23:08
Okay, Shlok and schlifer. Here we go.

Bob Smith 23:12
socket. schlaepfer. Okay, okay, Marcia. This is kind of interesting. I found this out and I didn’t realize it. Why were frontiersman like Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone once held in disregard. In fact, for more than a century, they were not held in high regard

Marcia Smith 23:27
as they were off taking over the Indians. No, had nothing to do with that. Okay, because I don’t know why. Well, this goes

Bob Smith 23:35
back to the founding of the government. western lands were owned by the federal government. If you crossed the Allegheny Mountains that was all western lands owned by the government. And frontiersman like Daniel Boone raced into the territory with settlers they were viewed with open suspicion by the founders Benjamin Franklin considered the front tears people, the nation’s refuse, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay called them white savages. And George Washington warned against over spreading the western country by a parcel of bandits and who have defiance to all authority. Thomas Jefferson thought that people of the Louisiana Territory were incapable of self government. So anybody who was on the frontier, who was out there before they were allowed to be out there were looked down upon and so people like Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone were not celebrated in literature or by the government at the time. I didn’t know that what future president elevated them to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson level,

Marcia Smith 24:36
was it Teddy?

Bob Smith 24:37
That’s right, Teddy Roosevelt

Marcia Smith 24:39
about because he was the traveler. He’d go out west all the time, and he

Bob Smith 24:43
was an enthusiastic celebrator of the frontier. Yeah, he was Harvard educated. I mean, he’s from that Roosevelt fan.

Marcia Smith 24:50
So that changed things Yeah, had for volume work. The

Bob Smith 24:53
winning of the West was a scholarly exploration of what he called the great deeds of the border people and he Basically elevated Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett men who fought Indians and hack their way through forest to be the true authors of US history. Hmm. So in that four volume work, he brought them up in stature and from there on, we’ve always thought of them as good Hardy frontiers, people that have

Marcia Smith 25:15
a TV program and a raccoon hat. Can’t get any higher tribute than that. But for

Bob Smith 25:21
a century Davy Crockett Daniel Boone, all these people were considered kind of lowlifes – amazing, I had no idea. Because, you know, like you said, Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the wild frontier. We all knew about that. And we knew about Daniel Boone and these were all great people, but not early on. The Founding Fathers looked down upon these people. Yeah, it was that we need to do this in an orderly way. You people are just going out there and grabbing land, which they were which was causing problems with the Native Americans, it was causing problems for the government. That’s why the establishment looked down on them.

Marcia Smith 25:53
Okay. I’m going to finish with a few Proverbs, not a quote. But proverb is an ancient expression of practical truth or wisdom. They existed before books and were the unwritten language of morality and are considered the oral tradition of all mankind. Okay. Proverb from England, the difference is wide, that the sheets cannot decide.

Bob Smith 26:18
The difference is wide, that the sheets cannot decide

Marcia Smith 26:22
that’s that’s a mean, what does that mean? Well, think about it, Bob. I

Bob Smith 26:26
don’t even understand it. Tell

Marcia Smith 26:27
me if you’re having trouble with your spouse. It can be resolved in bed. The difference is wide, that the sheets cannot decide. It just sounds weird. I’ll explain it to you later, Bob during pillow talk.

Bob Smith 26:43
I look forward to that. Yes. All right. And then you have two others.

Marcia Smith 26:46
Yes. Italian proverb. Better alone than in bad company. Okay, that’s nice. And finally, a Japanese proverb. Learning without wisdom is a load of books on the back of a jackass.

Bob Smith 27:01
Like that one. That one. I guess I Yeah. All right. Well, I think that’s it for today. Marcia, we thank you for joining us and we invite you to participate in the show. If you’d like to send us a thought or a you know, funny fact or something you’d like one of us to ask the other person. You can do that by going to our website, the off ramp dot show and scrolling all the way down to contact us. Speaking of us I Bob Smith and Marcia Smith. Join us again next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, visit us on the web at the off ramp dot show.

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