236 Olympic Flame Trivia

Marcia Smith 0:00
whose face was on the best selling us commemorative stamp of all time.

Bob Smith 0:05
And what’s the most unusual way the Olympic flame has been relayed from Greece to the games? answers to those and other questions coming up in this half hour of the off ramp with Bob and

Marcia Smith 0:18
Marcia Smith.

Bob Smith 0:35
Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. And today, we’re talking about numerous things including the Olympics and stamp stamps, but not Olympic steps. We’ll have to do that another time. You Your question was

Marcia Smith 0:57
who was the face on the best selling us commemorative stamp of all time?

Bob Smith 1:02
Was this a religious figure? No. Was it a president now? Was it a famous American? Yes. Or was it just a flag?

Marcia Smith 1:11
No,

Bob Smith 1:12
of course the flag doesn’t have a face doesn’t okay. What am I thinking of? Okay, what’s the answer? Marsh?

Marcia Smith 1:18
Well keep going into different categories. So what kind of famous America?

Bob Smith 1:21
Was it an athlete? No. Was it an entertainer? Yes. Okay. An entertainer. Was it? Bob? Hope? Charlie Chaplin? No. A singer? Yes. A famous American singer.

Unknown Speaker 1:35
Correct. Okay.

Bob Smith 1:36
I don’t know Elvis Presley. I didn’t know there was an Elvis stamp. 1993

Marcia Smith 1:41
really? 29 cent stamp. The post office had to print over 500 million of them. Wow. Which is three times the usual print for a commemorative stamp. Three times the usual run. Yeah. Hmm. The American people got to vote if they wanted young Elvis on the stamp now with his bouffant hair and his guitar or picture of him, you know, like in blue y, kind of mellow with his ukulele, or the big fat

Bob Smith 2:10
bloated Elvis, but

Marcia Smith 2:11
we didn’t do that. And they chose the young Elvis that they did. I would too.

Bob Smith 2:15
I don’t remember that. When was that put up to a vote? Do you recall that? Were we just too busy raising a family in 1993? We

Marcia Smith 2:22
had things to do, I

Bob Smith 2:23
guess. Oh, holy cow. So Elvis Presley is the most famous face on a US postage stamp the most printed? Yes. And 500 million of them were printed. Correct. Wow.

Marcia Smith 2:36
Okay, Bob, is that question about the Olympic flame? Did that happen this year? No,

Bob Smith 2:40
it wasn’t the most unique way this year. Okay. When was the first symbolic flame used in the modern Olympics in the modern Olympics? You might think that started with the first modern Olympics in 1896. But it didn’t Yes, I

Marcia Smith 2:56
was just going to say was it 18 Now I’m blind. I didn’t know that. I didn’t know I’ll say 1924. While

Bob Smith 3:03
you’re pretty close there. The idea of a symbolic fire, of course, was derived from the ancient Greeks. But it wasn’t until 1928 that the modern Olympics used a symbolic flame that first appeared in the ninth modern Olympics, the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam, but no torch was passed. And employee of an Amsterdam electric utility lit the First Flame in a large bowl atop a tower.

Marcia Smith 3:30
Just really just being careful. And the main

Bob Smith 3:33
purpose of that fire was to highlight where the Olympic Games were being held in Amsterdam, kind of like a visual signal where it was the idea of a torch to transport the flame that’s even more recent than 1928. When was that first done? So we have to remember the games originally were in Greece, so they didn’t transport a flame all over the world. Didn’t

Marcia Smith 3:55
they have to transport it between two points? Yeah,

Bob Smith 3:58
but they never had to transport it to other countries or other sites. So the idea of a torch to transport the flame to the games in other countries, that’s more recent than 1928 When was it? 1936? Yes, that’s right. That was the German games in Berlin. The Olympic torch relay, transporting the Olympic flame from Greece to various game sites had no ancient precedent. It was introduced by Karl deme, the German secretary general of the Summer Olympics in 1936. In Berlin, that’s the first year the flame was relayed from Athens, where a parabolic mirror concentrating the light of the sun’s rays, kindled a fire. And then to this day, that ceremony continues. A group of women representing the Vestal virgins, that’s me, are there and an actress plays the role of a temple high priestess who hands a torch to a runner that tradition began in 1936. Okay, so how many ways has that flame been relayed to modern cities and what’s the most usual one, you’ll have to wait for that answer coming up shortly.

Marcia Smith 5:04
Okay, so Robert Timbuktu as a major trading hub in which country, China, Mali, India, or Mongolia,

Bob Smith 5:13
China, Mali, India or Mongolia? I think Timbuktu was in India. No,

Marcia Smith 5:19
no, no.

Bob Smith 5:20
It wasn’t in China. No. What was the second one?

Marcia Smith 5:23
There was China, Mali, India or Mongolia?

Bob Smith 5:26
It was either Mali or Mongolia. That’s right. That’s all that’s left.

Marcia Smith 5:30
So is that Mongolia?

Bob Smith 5:32
In Mongolia? No, it’s in Mali. Where is Mali?

Marcia Smith 5:36
It’s in West Africa. Really?

Bob Smith 5:39
So when was that? I will between 14 116 100

Wow. Okay, so that was a major ancient city. That was

Marcia Smith 5:46
a major trading center for two things, slaves and ivory.

Bob Smith 5:51
And I think they had a university there or something. It was it was a very prosperous area. Back in the day. Alright, Marcia, back to the Olympics. How many ways has that flame been relayed to modern host cities? And what is the most unusual way? The flame has been relayed? Gosh, by animal. It has been done by animal Yes, it’s been done by horses and by Campbell.

Marcia Smith 6:15
But this one is more unusual. Yeah. Children. No hide together. No, no,

Bob Smith 6:20
please. Oh, God. Here we go. Let me tell you the first torch relay was done with runners who ran from Olympia in Greece to Berlin. It took 12 days and 11 Nights more than 3331 runners to do that. And then the fire traveled by boat in 1948. In 2012, it crossed the English Channel. It was carried by rowers in Canberra, Austria and by dragon boat in Hong Kong. These are all different ways. That was in 2008 it was first transported by airplane in 1952 When I went to Helsinki, okay 1965 To equestrian events in Stockholm by horseback, the torch but not the flame has gone into outer space. Did you know that no. Astronauts did that in 1996 2000 in 2014. It has been relayed by Native American Canoe by camel by a Concorde jet and underwater flare was used by a divers swimming across the Great Barrier Reef on the way to the Sydney games, but the most unusual way. In 1976, the flame was transformed into a radio signal heat sensors and Athens detected the flame and the signal was sent to Ottawa, Canada via satellite where it was received and used to trigger a laser beam to relight the flame in Canada. So that’s the most unusual way it’s been relayed over the century when it gets that apparently there are multiple torches involved. There’s always two or three around so in case the one goes out, there’s another one there. Okay,

Marcia Smith 7:52
but the Peninsula Hotel is a flagship Hong Kong hotel and is renowned for many upscale things, including how it gets their guests to the airport.

Bob Smith 8:03
Okay, now I’ve been to Hong Kong they had those hover boats that go over the water with the air cushion. Oh,

Marcia Smith 8:08
that’s cool.

Bob Smith 8:09
I did that. Is that one of the ways?

Marcia Smith 8:11
I like that.

Bob Smith 8:12
Okay, they’ve got a monorail. I know that.

Marcia Smith 8:15
Yeah. Now all right. What

Bob Smith 8:16
are the ways they get there?

Marcia Smith 8:17
You have the option of taking a Rolls Royce to the airport. Oh, or a helicopter. Oh my goodness. Wait up whatever floats your boat.

Bob Smith 8:26
Well, neither one floats a boat. I knew you’re gonna get great ways to get there.

Marcia Smith 8:31
The Peninsula Hotel is known for luxury and impeccable service. Average room is 820 starts at 600 $820 a night holy cow, but an entire suite 30,000 and

Bob Smith 8:45
cheese. Oh my goodness. That’s amazing. Here’s a question. Who is the oldest person a party has ever nominated to run for president? B. It’s not either one of the candidates that were running in 2024.

Marcia Smith 8:59
The oldest one ever nominated the oldest person already

Bob Smith 9:03
ever nominated. No, he didn’t. That’s why we don’t know industrialist and inventor Peter Cooper. He was 85 Good Lord when he was nominated at the 1876 greenback national convention of the greenback Party urged the federal government to reject the gold standard and inflate the economy through the issuance of paper money. greenbacks. But it was Peter Cooper. He invented the steam locomotive, Tom Thumb the first one. He was a pioneer in Iron Works and he laid the first transatlantic cable,

Marcia Smith 9:37
okay by The Economist news magazine, their intelligence unit every year ranks the most expensive cities in the world. Researchers dive into their everyday expenses associated with living in each place. How many of the top 10 most expensive cities can you

Bob Smith 9:55
name? Well, I think one we just mentioned Hong Kong would be one it is its number Five New York City.

Marcia Smith 10:01
That’s number four London. No,

Bob Smith 10:04
Los Angeles.

Marcia Smith 10:05
Yes. Number six,

Bob Smith 10:06
New York City.

Marcia Smith 10:07
You said that already.

Bob Smith 10:08
Well, I wanted to kind of twice. Number four. Let’s see where else somewhere like Paris, possibly number seven.

Marcia Smith 10:16
I don’t know what are the others? The rest are Geneva, Switzerland, Copenhagen, Tel Aviv, Israel. And number 10. Is San Francisco all places I can’t afford to live. The number one most expensive is Singapore. Oh, no kidding. And number two is Zurich, Switzerland. Okay.

Bob Smith 10:34
All right. That makes sense. This makes sense based on what I’ve read. Nice to visit, but uh, can’t afford to live there. Okay, Marcia, this sounds like science fiction. But what motivated millions of Americans to install electron guns in their homes? In the years after World War two electron gun electron guns. You have them in your house, too. I had them in my house. Many Americans had electron guns in their house. No idea. What was the big thing that people adopted after World War Two, they brought it into their homes to entertain themselves

Marcia Smith 11:08
to television, television to tea. I got so excited. Today,

Bob Smith 11:13
televisions. Yes, electron guns were components in the early television sets. I just thought that was a fun way to ask the question. The type of television most widely used before the invention of flat screen televisions was CRT which stood for cathode ray tube cathode ray tubes here, a vacuum tube containing one or more electron guns, as well as the fluorescent screen that was used to view the images and the cathode ray tube accelerated and deflected the electron beams onto the screen, which created the actual images. So that’s why millions of Americans unwittingly installed electron guns in their homes. After the Second World War, kind of an alien technology considering what people had in their homes prior to that Tom

Marcia Smith 11:57
was so fun about tubes was how long it took your damn television to warm up.

Bob Smith 12:01
That’s right. You had to warm up. I forgot about that. The set had to warm up didn’t who was nothing. And then we’ll come from a little white thing to Yeah, well, the whole screen. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 12:10
And have it make it crazy if you relate to see the beginning of Twilight Zone or something. Oh, that’s

Bob Smith 12:15
right. And then when you turned off the set, it disappeared into a little white dot down the middle of the screen. Man. I forgot about all those things. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 12:22
Okay, Bob. How many total ranks are there in the US Army from private to General?

Bob Smith 12:28
Oh, my goodness, there must be a ton. This is the ultimate bureaucracy. So I bet there are 50 different ranks maybe Oh, really?

Marcia Smith 12:36
Yeah. I wouldn’t have guessed 15 or 10.

Bob Smith 12:40
How many are there?

Marcia Smith 12:41
29.

Bob Smith 12:42
Not too bad.

Marcia Smith 12:42
Well, that’s a lot of ranks. That is said is a lot Navy has 27 Air Force 25. Marines 27. And Space Force has 19 ranks. Wow,

Bob Smith 12:51
Space Force. That’s

Marcia Smith 12:53
new. That is new.

Bob Smith 12:54
They’ve already got 19. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 12:58
And speaking of them, they require a significantly higher as VA be scored. That’s Armed Forces Vocational Aptitude Battery test, intelligence test, and they administer the military does a million of those a year. Wow, guys and gals who want to get in the Armed Services anyway. Many applicants can get into some military post with a minimum score on this test of 31. But SpaceForce has a minimum of what I don’t know, let’s say 5060. That test covers science, electronics, math and language and you have to have a minimum score somewhere in the 60s.

Bob Smith 13:35
Marcia what inspired the first coin operated payphone and it wasn’t to be a money making opportunity. It was a there was a reason for the first coin operated payphone and the idea. Ah, any idea where it was installed? Well,

Marcia Smith 13:50
can we to this was in some place as church or something? No, no. Okay, I don’t know.

Bob Smith 13:55
The first coin operated payphone in the United States was designed by William Gray. It was installed at the Hartford bank in Connecticut. And Gray was reportedly motivated to invent the public payphone because when his wife became sick, and he had no telephone in his home, he asked others with a telephone to use their device. They all turned him down. What Yeah, he was turned down. So he thought, well, this is awful this kind of people. I don’t know. I mean, not good neighbors. But there should be a way to use a phone maybe i Even if I have to pay for it. I’ll use a phone. So he invented the first payphone

Marcia Smith 14:30
No kidding. Yeah, that’s out of need. Right.

Bob Smith 14:33
Maybe people thought you’ll get germs on my phone. Or maybe it was one of those things. Each phone call cost you back. That might be a tip then.

Marcia Smith 14:40
I mean, if your phone was overused

Bob Smith 14:42
that that story came from the Palm Beach post. That’s where I got that. So you read that daily? Do you die every time I’m in Palm Beach, which is rare. Is it time for a ride? I think it is. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We’ll be back in just a moment where back. We just made a paid phone call and we’re looking at the Olympics. I’m Bob Smith along with Marcia Smith. We do this each week for the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin. The off ramp is a way to encourage lifelong learning. It’s a way to learn something new each week. We go on the internet, radio station, CPL radio three times a week. And then our show goes on podcast platforms where it’s heard Oh, over the world, I knew you do that. Alright. Marcia, Steve Jobs named his first Apple computer after who?

Marcia Smith 15:31
Oh, his daughter, his daughter, his daughter, right? Yeah. Daughter, daughter. I’m trying to think of the name.

Bob Smith 15:37
Lisa. Lisa,

Marcia Smith 15:40
does it sound like Lisa? Yes, it does.

Bob Smith 15:42
What earlier inventor did the same thing? I didn’t know about this. This is kind of an obscure invention in today’s world. But okay. Steve Jobs. named his first Apple computer after his daughter Lisa. What earlier inventor did the same thing? Oh, no. Have you ever heard of the Spinning Jenny? Yeah. What is that? Okay. Well, here’s the little story. James Hargreaves was the inventor. He was a poor spinner and Weaver and Lancashire, England. And he came up with a new kind of spinning machine and 1764 one that would draw a thread from eight spindles simultaneously instead of one the original spinning machine or spinning wheel had one spindle. Well, what happened was his daughter Jenny, accidentally knocked over the family spinning wheel one day and he noticed that the spindle continued to turn even as the machine lay on the floor. So that’s a so he thought Wow, a single wheel could turn more than one spindle. So he came up with this patent. So much as Steve Jobs named his first Apple computer after his daughter Lisa James Hargreaves named his invention after his daughter calling it the Spinning Jenny. And it revolutionized the textile industry. He patented that in 1770.

Marcia Smith 16:53
Okay, time for aka. All right, also known as also known

Bob Smith 16:58
as sometimes this can be fun sometimes it can be. It’s interesting for me,

Marcia Smith 17:02
I find it very embarrassing. You’ll do you’ll do good. Better on this one than you did last week.

Bob Smith 17:08
I hope so. Okay,

Marcia Smith 17:09
so the category is famous musicals. So if I said violinist on the house, what famous musical would that be

Bob Smith 17:17
Fiddler on the Roof? Very good.

Marcia Smith 17:19
Fair. All

Bob Smith 17:21
right. I’m on my way.

Unknown Speaker 17:22
I’m on my way home. I’m

Bob Smith 17:23
on my way about

Marcia Smith 17:25
farewell check the D What’s that? Farewell chickadee.

Bob Smith 17:30
Goodbye, birds. Bye bye. Okay, yeah, I got it. Good. Bird. Well, it’s close. Not as doesn’t roll off the tongue like bye bye, birdie. Goodbye bird.

Marcia Smith 17:42
This one’s easy. Sooners state. Oklahoma. That’s it. Unmarried Vietnamese girl. Miss Saigon correct Aqua net? Yeah, hairspray. That’s right. Now think about this one mediocre woman of mine. Me

Bob Smith 18:00
mediocre woman of mine well that’s not about my wife. Mediocre woman of

Marcia Smith 18:06
my what? know if I would say mediocre for this. I just say average average

Bob Smith 18:10
woman of mine. Yeah, I’m afraid to go there.

Marcia Smith 18:13
My Fair Lady.

Bob Smith 18:15
My Fair Lady. Okay.

Marcia Smith 18:17
I don’t think fair and mediocre. I wouldn’t think that either either. Okay, now this one you have to think about putting two things together. Okay. What musical is this? Skywalker actor? 2000 pounds.

Bob Smith 18:29
Skywalker actor 2000 pounds. Two ton no ton Mark done. Luke 10 ton Luke?

Marcia Smith 18:38
He’s the actor. What was Skywalkers? Name? Luke. I mean, his real Mark Hamill down. Actor plus 2000 pounds. Mark time. Hamilton.

Bob Smith 18:52
Oh god.

Marcia Smith 18:54
Hamill, ton Hamilton.

Bob Smith 18:58
Oh god it again. It’s always upon at the end. I fall for it each time too. All right. All righty. Okay, what do you got? All right. Look at some older acronyms from recent technology. See if he ever knew what it meant. Even though you heard about at all your life VHS. Remember that? Yeah, that was a that was an acronym for videos

Marcia Smith 19:16
something

Bob Smith 19:17
What did it stand for?

Marcia Smith 19:21
Less than video something. Velocity. I was for video video H as

Bob Smith 19:26
a format right? Yeah, but what did H S stand for? I don’t know. Video home system. Oh really? Yeah, that was easy. Okay, remember when we were in college? We both took broadcasting courses VTR what was that? Video? Tape recorder right and VCR was VCR was

Marcia Smith 19:47
video. Cam recorder cassette recorder cassette recorder. See?

Bob Smith 19:51
Isn’t it funny? We use these and we forget about what they mean. What were the facsimile machines called that we used to have in the house. What are they called copiers faxing mode, simile machine or fax, fax fax. Okay, that’s right. This is a rabbit hole, but it’s not long. Okay. Okay. You thought fax machines were simple technology compared to what we have today. You know, you had to put the paper on the thing I came up. This is what a fax machine did. This is when you think about this is a pretty sophisticated machine to have in your house. Okay. The original document was scanned by a fax machine which processed the contents the text or images as a single fixed graphic image, it converted it into a bitmap and then transmitted it through the telephone system in the form of audio frequency tones. And then the receiving fax machine interpreted the tones reconstructed the image, printing a paper copy, fax machines were ubiquitous in the 80s and 90s. But they’re gone now for the most part. Yeah, think about that. That’s a lot of stuff happening right at your fingertips. I

Marcia Smith 20:54
think I had to pay someone to take our fax machine to recite one of those things. What

Bob Smith 21:00
I remember was the noise they would make you know.

Marcia Smith 21:04
Oh, dear, okay, Bob Rolling Stone. Just named 100 Top best album covers of all time, okay. They’re always doing these album covers. Yeah. Number two was Abbey Road. The Beatles. Oh, okay. And number three was Sly and the Family Stone there’s a riot going on. Well,

Bob Smith 21:23
I remember that went

Marcia Smith 21:25
for was Pink Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon. You have that? Don’t write, write and life although so far. Yeah. But you don’t have number five. And that’s the Notorious BIG ready to die. No,

Bob Smith 21:36
I don’t have that. And what was number one? Number one

Marcia Smith 21:39
was one you never heard of Bob. It’s called Joy Division by unknown pleasures. That’s

Bob Smith 21:47
the name of the album and the artist. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. What’s it look like?

Marcia Smith 21:51
It’s a piece of material, all kind of shredded. And don’t ask me to. Oh, gosh.

Bob Smith 21:56
All right. All right. But

Marcia Smith 21:57
you do know what the others look like. Yes, I

Bob Smith 21:59
do. All right. All right. Marcia, what new technology did a major firearms manufacturer introduce in 1873? It had nothing to do with guns or ammunition. But this was a major firearms manufacturer.

Marcia Smith 22:13
What did they do?

Bob Smith 22:14
They introduced a brand new technology, a brand new technology. Okay, it was developed. Here’s a hint in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Marcia Smith 22:23
That typewriter? That’s

Bob Smith 22:24
exactly right. Yeah, I

Marcia Smith 22:26
just say that because I always said that. typewrite 1873.

Bob Smith 22:29
Yeah, I just think most people don’t think about that how companies started something totally different, you know, and the company was the Remington and sunspire Arms Company. And they introduced the first Remington typewriter in 1873. Before that, they just been doing, you know, ammunition and guns. 68 year old Philo Remington, the son of the company founder acquired the rights to the Scholes typewriter of 1868 for $12,000. And then they worked on it and improved it. And the first Remingtons cost $125 But that was still too much money. That was more than a month’s rent for many businesses. And Remington only produced eight machines in its first year, it could easily have thought well forget this. But they had so much faith in the typewriter. And really, that’s where the whole typewriter kind of developed the modern typewriter, they, they kind of hired the people to you know, fix it up so the keys didn’t beat each other out and all of that some of that was done in a machine shop in Milwaukee, but it was done after Remington. Okay. Got involved in a lot of Yeah, I thought was interesting that this company, totally different technology they introduced I’ll say it was like Apple did the same thing. You know, they went from computers to musical things, you know, I hadn’t thought about the iPod and all of that. And the phones. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 23:45
yeah. Okay, Bob. Why do we say a guilty person must face the music. What does that term come from? Oh, that’s

Bob Smith 23:52
a good one. Face the Music. Was this something to do with an execution a band would play and they would be shot or something like that quite

Marcia Smith 24:01
as severe but you’re on the right track. Really, it’s military comes from the military drumming out ceremony. For disgraced soldiers. No kid, a old ritual used to call for only drums to accompany the Dishonored guy. And as they were stripped of their ranks and colors in front of the assembled unit. For cavalry men, this humiliation was enhanced by having the offender sit backwards on a horse. So while he was leaving the area, he had to face the music, and he could still hear the drums of the band. He was forced to face the music as he rode off backwards on his horse.

Bob Smith 24:40
Oh my goodness, is that right? You’d write off backwards in your horse facing the music as you went to your exit? Yeah. Oh my goodness. That’s a

Marcia Smith 24:49
wow. Tried to maximize the humiliation what a

Bob Smith 24:52
picture that is. Yeah. How interesting. All right,

Marcia Smith 24:55
Bob in December 2022. All South care rinse became one or two years younger. Wow. How did that happen?

Bob Smith 25:05
South Koreans, I could see North Korea they change anything they want to South Koreans. I don’t understand that. Yeah. Was this accustomed to the calendar change? No,

Marcia Smith 25:13
neither.

Bob Smith 25:14
What happened?

Marcia Smith 25:14
Well, this is so Bob Smith.

Bob Smith 25:17
Oh no. Has

Marcia Smith 25:17
they had this tradition forever until 2022. That babies were born at one years old. Oh. You drive your family crazy by always making us one year older every birthday?

Bob Smith 25:32
Well, let’s explain this. First of all, let’s explain this because people won’t understand. So when you have your birthday, that is the end of that year, it’s not the beginning. It’s not the first time you’re 40. It’s the last time you’ll be 40. It’s the end of your 40th year when you turn 40. So then, the next day, you’re 41. Given your 41st year, this drove my daughter nuts and

Marcia Smith 25:55
your son and your wife. That’s enough, but

Bob Smith 25:59
but a baby isn’t one until the end of its first year. That’s how it started. It wasn’t

Marcia Smith 26:02
in South Korea until 2022. Okay, and what else they did? Everybody had their birthday on January first. So even if you were born on December 31, you would be to on January 1.

Bob Smith 26:17
Yeah, I wouldn’t do that to you guys.

Marcia Smith 26:20
How crazy. Anyway, this marvel of calculation had some confusion with people trying to get licenses or for this or that. Finally they thought, Okay, we have to give in to standardize use of international age, meaning that many Koreans technically became one or two years younger on December 2020. So they went to a more traditional standardized birthdays. Okay. Okay. I’m finishing up with quotes. Bob. Okay. Thomas Jefferson. All right. Honesty is the first chapter in the Book of Wisdom.

Bob Smith 26:58
After that, it gets murky. Okay.

Marcia Smith 27:02
I like that. No, here also on honesty, no coward. It’s discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit? Well,

Bob Smith 27:13
that’s true. Yeah, we kind of expect to see don’t wait. Yeah. And honest. He’s always like, that’s nice. Nice. He

Marcia Smith 27:19
was honest with one. Too bad.

Bob Smith 27:21
It’s not the other way around. Yes.

Marcia Smith 27:22
And that’s no coward talking. So that’s not yesterday.

Bob Smith 27:25
Was he a coward though? That’s

Marcia Smith 27:26
the question. He was funny.

Bob Smith 27:28
His name was dishonest then Yeah. Okay. All right. We hope you enjoyed our humor and honesty today here on the off ramp. I Bob Smith. I’m Marcia Smith. We hope you join us next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp. The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarbrook Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, visit us on the web at the off ramp dot show.

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