201 Head In The Clouds Trivia

Bob Smith 0:00
What first lady still haunts the White House. Oh, and what state parachuted beavers deep into its remote interior? answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marsha

Marcia Smith 0:15
Smith

Bob Smith 0:32
Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down. Steer clear of crazy will take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia.

Marcia Smith 0:42
This is our 201st show, but

Bob Smith 0:44
who’s counting? Oh,

Marcia Smith 0:45
we better stop right now. Nobody listen. Okay.

Bob Smith 0:48
All right. Let’s get going here. All right, Marsha. I didn’t know that there was a first lady who haunted the White House. Yes. My new Abraham Lincoln supposedly Oh, yeah, he’s a hall he’s

Marcia Smith 0:58
got a fair amount of ghosts there. And Mary saw her kids there. And you know, there’s a lotsa woo going there. And this question goes out to Bob and John are ghosts loving buddies. Okay, who is the first lady who still haunts the White House? Jeez.

Bob Smith 1:14
All right. Is this somebody from the 19th century? She said? Could it be Dolly Madison?

Marcia Smith 1:21
Not Ah, okay.

Bob Smith 1:22
Could it be? Who would that be? Is it somebody or their husband was considered one of the greatest presidents

Marcia Smith 1:28
well known. He was very well known. Yeah, I don’t know if you’re I think he was one of the top presidents. It’s not Mary Lincoln isn’t No, no, no, no, no, that would be scary. Abigail

Bob Smith 1:38
Adams. Yes.

Marcia Smith 1:39
Really good for you. Remember, we had a thing as she haunts the Rose Garden. Remember that guys wouldn’t go up and do the landscaping because there was always a presence around there. I forgot about that. Yeah, that was a while back. But this is the only first lady who haunts I guess there are five ghosts known. But John Adams was the first president to live in the White House after its completion at the turn of the 19th century, making his wife Abigail, the first First Lady to reside there. Yes. So she was the very first, according to some she still does, because the newly completed East Room was the warmest and the driest in the building when the Addams Family lived there. And she used to hang her wash there about that. Yeah, I mean, the laundry, was in that documentary to remember she was in there doing her wash. Many have reported seeing her in or near the East Room in the two centuries since then, well, often with her arms outstretched as though she’s still carrying laundry. Oh,

Bob Smith 2:41
my goodness. I wonder why she haunts the White House, especially with laundry.

Marcia Smith 2:45
Not the most menacing activity perhaps but surely quite a shock when you’re in the middle of a walk and talk? I guess.

Bob Smith 2:52
So. That was Abigail Adams with her arm stretched out

Marcia Smith 2:56
like she was carrying laundry and she was the first First Lady. So that lived in the White House.

Bob Smith 3:03
Yeah, that was a dark, dank kind of place when they first moved in it. Yeah, very nice. It

Marcia Smith 3:08
was not Yeah, it was kind of a hellhole. Yeah, that one

Bob Smith 3:11
John Adams. Documentary but John Adams, Paul Paul Giamatti. Yeah, played it. Yeah, they played that like, well, they had the fire going there and you could barely, you know, was so cold

Marcia Smith 3:20
and everything. It was not palatial. All

Bob Smith 3:25
right, Marsha, guess what, what what state parachuted beavers from one part of its state to another when they became nuisances?

Marcia Smith 3:34
Wow. That tickles me to no end. Okay. Beavers. It’s a state you’ve been to. I was gonna say, is it Minnesota? No, it’s farther out west farther west. Is it Montana? No. Is it? Washington?

Bob Smith 3:48
No, but it’s nearby both Idaho. It’s Idaho. Okay. It happened in 1948 residential areas. were complaining about nuisance beavers. So the state has nuisance beavers. So the state decided they needed to move them to vacant lands miles away. But the unoccupied areas had no roads and taking beavers air by trucks wasn’t wasn’t going to be possible. So do you want to know what happened here? I can thank a guy named Elmo header. He’s a real guy. He worked for Idaho’s Fish and Game agency. And the problem was when people began building postwar homes in McCall and Payette Lake areas, Elmo knew there’d be trouble because beavers had lived there for centuries. And sure enough, they were soon chewing up the new scenery. They were eating fences and downing trees and damming streams and flooding yards complaining, so he proposed that the state relocate these beavers to the remote Chamberlain basin. The trouble was Chamberlain basin was so remote, there were no roads. In fact, to this day, it’s called the wilderness of no return something like that. Isn’t that amazing?

Marcia Smith 4:57
I’m wondering if I heard that. That’s not where I daughters Yes. Oh forgot.

Bob Smith 5:01
Anyway delivering beavers by truck was out and beaver spooked mules and horses, so they couldn’t deliver them that way. But it was 1948 and Elmo knew there was a surplus of something after World War Two Guess what? Beavers, snow parachutes. Oh, there were beavers, but parachutes. Too many parachutes. Why not attach the parachutes to boxes and parachute the beavers into the wilderness. He even did a cost analysis showed it would only cost $8 to do this $8 $8 per beaver to do this. Okay. And that was cheaper than driving hundreds of miles by truck and releasing beavers. Wow. And then he came up with a specially designed wooden container that would open up automatically when it landed.

Marcia Smith 5:45
That was my next question. Yeah, they’re gonna get out. And so he tested that over and

Bob Smith 5:49
over again with a male beaver he called Geronimo. Well, Geronimo was freed by parachute so many times. When he saw handlers approaching him, he’d voluntarily crawl back into his box like Okay, here we go again.

Marcia Smith 6:03
So what did Toronto get out of this? Did they free him? Yes,

Bob Smith 6:07
they did eventually free him. Thank God. He became the first Idaho beaver said free in the wilderness with three loving young female beavers

Marcia Smith 6:19
ran amok he was getting a little

Bob Smith 6:21
okay. And once they hit the ground and your animal realized, okay, my parachuting days are over, they started making a little colony be done and more beavers followed 76 In all and most of them dropped in little groups of three. He repopulated three females and one male they didn’t have

Marcia Smith 6:38
to show him how to do that. That’s right. They did. Okay,

Bob Smith 6:42
and now guess what? Why the result is a fire resistant wetland hmm NASA satellite imagery of the bow Creek watershed where they dropped all these beavers showed the beavers erected dams that form ponds flooded meadows and protected the area from forest fires and back in 2018 when the sharps fire burned, their vegetation was more lush than other waterways and it left on singed the areas where the beavers live totally on singed, so for the environment and the parachuting beavers there was a happy ending.

Marcia Smith 7:12
Wow, that’s very joyful Bob, except Except

Bob Smith 7:15
for one Beaver, who realized that he was in a box and tried to get out of it too soon, and oh, jump to his demise. But anyway, that’s the story of Elmo and Geronimo and the beavers of Idaho. I thought it was fascinating.

Marcia Smith 7:29
It’s certainly different. That’s for sure. Okay. All right, Bob. Remember last week when I was giving you presidential quotes, you gave me the President’s I just have a few more. Okay. We’ll see how you do dust off that little character voice world of yours. All right. Is there a pretty much a cakewalk? Okay, I am not a crook.

Bob Smith 7:50
Oh, that was Richard Nixon. Let’s hear it. I am not a crook.

Marcia Smith 7:55
Okay, Our long national nightmare is over.

Bob Smith 7:59
That was Gerald Ford.

Marcia Smith 8:01
Can you do Gerald Ford?

Bob Smith 8:02
Our long national nightmare. I can’t do that. I could fall down when I walk though. Oh, yeah. But he didn’t really he was such a coordinated guy. He’s a football player.

Marcia Smith 8:11
A huge athlete. One of the most fit athletic men in office. Okay, here we go. Government is not the solution to our problem. government is the problem we’ll

Speaker 1 8:21
Reagan has to be him. Yes, that’s giving you

Marcia Smith 8:25
this gift. aren’t aren’t giving me a gift. Oh, here’s one for you. 1000 points of light that was set George

Bob Smith 8:31
Bush. Yes. Yeah. 1000 points. I know broccoli, please. Just

Marcia Smith 8:37
like no broccoli is pleased. And last one. There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America.

Bob Smith 8:47
Gee, that’s a good one. That’s a good quote. Actually. It is. What is that? FDR? No, it’s a hopeful thing

Marcia Smith 8:53
though. Yes, it is very and this is a voice you have in your quiver? I do. Yeah.

Bob Smith 8:59
Is it Bill Clinton or something? It is.

Marcia Smith 9:01
Okay. There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America.

Bob Smith 9:07
Bill Clinton. He probably said it like this. There is nothing wrong with America that can’t be cured by what’s right with America, don’t you imagine? All right, Marsha. Let’s go back in history. Why did French explorer Robert Chevalier ala Sal’s men mutiny and kill him? LaSalle

Marcia Smith 9:29
let’s say now we know in Wisconsin Yeah. LaSalle

Bob Smith 9:33
that’s everything’s named after him. Yes. All kinds of Lascelles. Yeah, who killed him? His men did. Oh, that’s not fair. It wasn’t because he lost them at sea. He wore them out. That’s the reason he wore him out now. LaSalle, who lived from 1643 to 1687 canes in the new world. He traveled the whole of the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico claimed the entire river valley for France. Then he had his men turn around and head all the way back up the mr. sippy to quit back in Canada. They sailed all the way back home to France for refinancing. Then they sail back to the new world again. This time he and his man landed by mistake on the Texas coast instead of the Mississippi Delta. So he and his men walked 1000s of miles looking for the Mississippi River. Then they sailed north for Canada. Then they got lost in a storm. They found themselves back in the Gulf of Mexico, and on the third unsuccessful attempt up the Mississippi, his wiry man killed him. This is a madman going

Marcia Smith 10:31
us she is now Mississippi, we are lost buddy.

Bob Smith 10:36
I always think of these people. Now a lot of them were ruthless, right? And you had to be brave to come all this way to this new world looking for fame and fortune. And then you get this guy who’s your boss, who is literally killing you. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 10:48
you can be too much of a tyrant as a boss. That’s right. You don’t see that on any of the LaSalle statues. Killed by his men for being lost too much. This

Bob Smith 10:59
has always been the example to me of how far this guy went. There’s a little town we were very familiar with Palestine, Illinois, because that was where our brother in law Gary rich lived. And that was supposedly founded by a man who got disconnected from left South group way deep in Southern Illinois. And he loved the way the area looked at reminded him of Palestine. So he called it that it’s in the diaries of his descendants. So these people were all over the map all over North America. And then finally, it’s like, that’s enough.

Marcia Smith 11:31
All right, Bob, when the first edition of this poet’s collection of poems appeared in 1855, the Boston Intelligencer said in its review, quote, the author should be kicked out from all decent society as below the level of brute he must be some escaped lunatic raving in pitiable delirium, unquote. How’s that for what your review? 1855 when it first appeared in print? Yeah, that collection went through nine more editions and gained a large, enthusiastic readership in the United States and England. Who is this poet?

Bob Smith 12:12
Wow,

Marcia Smith 12:12
that’s strange. Yeah, that I love the little bit of hyperbole there.

Bob Smith 12:17
I was thinking Edgar Allan Poe, because he wrote some strange stuff.

Marcia Smith 12:19
Yeah, but no, no. Was this a British poet? No.

Bob Smith 12:23
Was it American poet? Yeah. Yeah. Was it a woman? No, no. I don’t know. Who was it? Walt

Marcia Smith 12:29
Whitman. No

Bob Smith 12:31
kidding. Walt Whitman’s poetry is beautiful. I camped

Marcia Smith 12:34
in my captain. Yeah, and I’m gonna end today’s show with a beautiful quote from him. But yeah, that just shows you how hyperbole isn’t just for today’s people. Wow. They

Bob Smith 12:44
didn’t like him. I thought he was great. I thought it was gorgeous. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 12:47
fee low the level of brute my whole poor guy.

Bob Smith 12:51
This is a British newspaper said that about no at the Boston the Boston Boston Intelligencer, and not so intelligent if you ask

Marcia Smith 12:58
me it’s review they’re pretty harsh. Yes,

Bob Smith 13:01
that’s amazing.

Marcia Smith 13:03
But they went on to how many more printings nine more edition so it didn’t hurt his sales. Oh, my

Bob Smith 13:09
goodness. Oh, you know, we had the months of the year. Remember, we’ve been doing what are the months of the year. And we knew that a lot of the months of the year were named after the Roman calendar, which was two months behind us, right? Remember, September was actually the seventh month not the ninth month, October was the eighth month locked. Okay, so now let’s talk about November and December. Oh, thank God, it’s the end. Okay, how did they get their names?

Marcia Smith 13:34
November? Well, that’s when you couldn’t have a member. So there was no

Bob Smith 13:38
no member. I get it. Boy, that’s pretty pathetic. I’m reaching. Now. Okay. The Latin word for nine is Novum or novom. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so November is nine that was the ninth month of the original Roman calendar. And December

Marcia Smith 13:53
is the 10th month in the Roman count. That’s why it’s called Dec dec

Bob Smith 13:58
for the 10th month of the Roman calendar. So there we go. We’ve gone through all of the calendar names and what they mean All right, now let’s take a test okay, that’s enough of that. I thought that was funny though. So for quite a few months there were going by positions in the calendar that were go back you know, they never did rename all those No, you

Marcia Smith 14:17
know, I never sat down and thought about but everybody knows a lot of people know that I can Sep and all those are prefixes for you know, 789. But I never thought hey, yeah, that’s not the right month for that name. Okay. Never occurred to me until you pointed it out. I’m glad I could be of service. Lightning. I carried you for a reason. Here’s one more Who who is it? Okay. Okay. This reclusive writer was depicted in WP conselho as 1982 novel Shoeless Joe,

Bob Smith 14:50
a writer. Yeah. Okay. Somebody who wrote Yeah, when the

Marcia Smith 14:53
writer threatened to sue he was replaced in the film version, which was, you know what it was no Field of Dreams. Oh, remember Shoeless Joe Shoeless Joe Jackson. Yeah. The writer was replaced by a fictitious writer named terrorists man, portrayed by James Earl Jones. Okay. Yeah, remember that. So who was the original writer supposed to be? Yeah. That they referred to that was going to sue. Was it Norman

Bob Smith 15:17
Mailer? No. Was it Gore Vidal? No. Was it somebody like

Marcia Smith 15:20
that? I’ll repeat are reclusive right reclusive? Okay,

Bob Smith 15:24
so it’s the guy who wrote he wrote one novel and that was it. No,

Marcia Smith 15:28
not him. Oh, okay. I don’t know JD Salinger. But who I was thinking of. Oh, he wrote one one Catcher in the Rye was the most famous, but I read all his thing.

Bob Smith 15:37
Oh, he wrote more than one. Oh, yeah. That shows you I thought he was more reclusive than he was.

Marcia Smith 15:41
Yes. Anyway, that’s the answer. He was in the field of dreams. But wow, he was cranky about

Bob Smith 15:48
it. Oh, right. I think I need a break now. Okay. We’ll be back in just a moment. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob

Marcia Smith 15:54
and Marsha Smith.

Bob Smith 15:57
We’re back. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We do this each week for the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and it’s CPL, radio, internet radio station. And after that it goes on podcast platforms throughout the world. Incidentally, if you are listening to our show, we would love to have people rate and review by going to the podcast platforms that always helps us get more visibility on the web. Good point.

Marcia Smith 16:24
Okay, how did Roman shoemakers calculate shoe sizes?

Bob Smith 16:28
How did they calculate shoe sizes? Well, wasn’t at one point I know a foot was as long as the emperor or the president or the Kings foot. That’s where that came from. Did that have something to do with it?

Marcia Smith 16:41
No. We’re talking inches here. How did they calculate inches?

Bob Smith 16:44
Okay, how did they calculate inches

Marcia Smith 16:46
they didn’t have they didn’t have tape measures.

Bob Smith 16:48
They weren’t by knuckles sizes, you know the length of time the length now you’ll

Marcia Smith 16:52
like this. Okay, three barley corns equaled one inch.

Bob Smith 16:57
No kidding. Yep. So

Marcia Smith 16:58
one barley corn was a third of an inch and they use this to determine and fit people with shoe sizes. In 1324, King Edward of England decreed that indeed, three barley corns was one inch shoe sizes increased with each barley corn, and the third inch barley corn calculation is still used to determine shoe sizes today.

Bob Smith 17:20
Oh my goodness. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Marcia Smith 17:22
I mean, they use a tape measure for the third of it. I’ll

Bob Smith 17:24
bring up barley corn no has put out in the table. You said the Romans at first. Yeah. They started with the barley corn.

Marcia Smith 17:33
Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it was who was the King Edward of England? Oh, yeah. So he, you know, they were ruled by Romans once, weren’t they? Well, before long before King Edward? Yeah. So it took him till 1324 to say Yeah, three barleycorn make it a miracle. Yeah. Okay.

Bob Smith 17:50
Okay, Marsha. I have a question for you. Why do they call Happy Hour happy hour in Utah. In

Marcia Smith 17:57
Utah Happy Hour happy? Well, I’ll because that appetizers That’s

Bob Smith 18:02
right. Because Happy Hour is against the law in Utah. Did you know that? No, it’s illegal to sell alcohol at a discounted price. That means happy hour at a hotel bar is out of the picture. So in its place, many establishments offer Appy Hour That’s very funny when the appetizers are on sale instead. Utah has a famously strict law regarding alcohol in general. So that was particularly less shocking than some other unusual laws listed there. Here’s some other restrictions on Utah drinkers. Only one 1.5 ounce shot of alcohol allowed per drink, so no doubles unless you’re drinking a cocktail, which does allow 2.5 ounces of booze I forgot as long as the extra ounce is a less potent spirit. Why

Marcia Smith 18:46
why do you feel the sense of church interference little

Bob Smith 18:50
infringement don’t mind there’s also a maximum of 4% alcohol by weight or 5% alcohol by volume there, although there are some higher octane brews of draft beer, a story of taverns

Marcia Smith 19:01
and we say Utah they have places to drink. They close them down at nine o’clock. Just

Bob Smith 19:07
can’t drink that much. Yeah. Okay, happy hour. That was fun. It is one way to get around. Happy Hour. I love well, we’ll call it happy hour.

Marcia Smith 19:16
I have another shout out for our friends Tim and Karen Nolan. Writing the highways and byways. They’re also known as Nolan’s on the road on Instagram. Yes. Okay. All right, Bob. How many bridges connect the Overseas Highway from mainland Florida to Key West? Oh,

Bob Smith 19:35
I never thought of it called Overseas Highway. Yeah. Okay. So it goes over the ocean

Marcia Smith 19:39
air bridges. How many? How many

Bob Smith 19:43
bridges from the mainland to Key West? Which is okay, let me see here. I’d say four very long bridges.

Marcia Smith 19:51
That’s what I would have said in that neighborhood too.

Bob Smith 19:54
Yeah, get this 42 Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that’s a lot. Ever been that far down there?

Marcia Smith 20:01
Now me there so we

Bob Smith 20:03
were on something it was a long long bridge as I remember as a kid but that might have been Louisiana or somewhere like that went way out in the middle of something. The poncho train or something. Wow. 42 bridges. No wonder people get scared when they get on the middle of that sometimes. I would Alright, Marsha, I have another weird law. Did you know that you’re not allowed to play bingo for more than five hours in North Carolina? Well, you know, i That’s why I don’t go there. You better pace yourself. Yeah, not only is there a statewide five hour cap on all bingo games, but you can’t hold two separate bingo sessions within a 48 hour period.

Marcia Smith 20:39
Is there a reason for this? Apparently, North

Bob Smith 20:41
Carolina has a long history of these kinds of rules. Conservative rules on gambling goes back to its colonial days. Because back in 1749, the General Assembly was already regulating excessive and immoral gambling practices. It was a problem back then. And they invalidated gamblers debt greater than 100 pounds and the regulations on games and lotteries only snowballed from there. They even banned lotteries in 1835. So bingo, it is legal in North Carolina today. Lots of restrictions, though. In addition to the time limits, it’s only allowed to be played for fundraising purposes. Unless the price is less than $10.

Marcia Smith 21:21
Okay, good to know. Good to know.

Bob Smith 21:24
It just ruins everything for me. I love being go. Okay, here’s

Marcia Smith 21:28
one more for the road. That Great Ocean Road is a scenic drive in what country

Bob Smith 21:34
The Great Ocean Road. A scenic drive in what country? Would it be along the ocean? The Great Ocean? Where is

Marcia Smith 21:42
it? It’s a scenic drive in which country? Okay,

Bob Smith 21:45
question. Is the Great Ocean Road in Europe? No. Is it in Asia? No. Is it in America? No. The Americas? No. Is it in Australia?

Marcia Smith 21:55
Maybe?

Bob Smith 21:56
I think it’s Yeah, I thought I was gonna say Australia, but I wanted to narrow it down. So yes,

Marcia Smith 22:02
in 1922 They built it and the road stretches 151 miles and is considered one of the most spectacular driving routes in the world. It hugs the coastline and meanders through the rain forest and charming little town. Wow, that sounds interesting. What ocean is it running along? Bob?

Bob Smith 22:21
It is the let’s see. It’s the South Pacific but there’s a name for that ocean there. It’s not called the Pacific it’s called the Indian Ocean. New what is it? The

Marcia Smith 22:33
Southern Ocean the southern also known as the Antarctic

Bob Smith 22:37
Ocean. Okay, Marcia, future civilizations may find a series of mysterious giant concrete arrows stretching across the surface of the United States. What were they for? Who was responsible for them? You could find this on the road too. If you go to the right places

Marcia Smith 22:55
that concrete arrows concrete arrows. So this is from which art century or? No,

Bob Smith 23:00
it’s from the last century, the 20th century. Okay.

Marcia Smith 23:04
Crete arrows. Well, are they there was a US government department and say is it like runways?

Bob Smith 23:11
They were actually you’re on the right track. These were concrete arrows, part of the first guidance system for air mail pilots, Air Mail pipe, their huge giant concrete arrows in the ground. You can see that in that picture there. It’s in the middle of a desert out there. There’s one I read you see that? No, they can’t see it. Okay. And the United States Department of Commerce laid them down they go back to 1920 and the nation’s first coast to coast Air Mail routes. The airplane had only been invented 17 years earlier. And there were very few aviation charts to guide the air male pilots under 3000 mile journey. So the Department of Commerce and the Bureau of Standards aeronautical branch constructed a system the transcontinental airways system, which was a series of light beacons and giant concrete arrows and the beacons were 25 miles apart. The arrows next to them were painted yellow. The beacons lit the arrows at night and the arrows were painted yellow to glow in the daylight. So many of them are still there by 1929. They extended from coast to coast. No kidding. Yeah. And we’re credited with helping airmail pilots travel safely from the Atlantic to the Pacific in 30 hours. It probably

Marcia Smith 24:17
gets alien ships a place to land to they can follow the arrows

Bob Smith 24:22
alien ships. They call them airplane. UFOs. Oh, yeah. Some of them are very, very much in remote areas like in there’s one in Elko County, Nevada, which even today can only be reached by four wheel drive. But it guided pilots on the San Francisco to Salt Lake route. They decommissioned that system in the 1940s with the rise of radio and radar technology, but guess what, just like many government things It wasn’t officially decommissioned until the 1970s 50 years later, more than 100 of the giant concrete arrows still exist today across the United States is for anything not used for anything just big Concrete areas

Marcia Smith 25:00
you believe the government do something used?

Bob Smith 25:03
It’s hard to believe the government would do something concrete too, isn’t it concrete? I get a little joke there.

Marcia Smith 25:09
Very little. All right, Bob, historically, there were four named oceans. But since 1999, there are five named them. bump bump.

Bob Smith 25:20
Okay. Let’s see. There’s the Atlantic. Yes. I got one. Yeah, there’s the Pacific. There’s the Arctic. There’s the Indian. And then there is the Gosh, what’s the other one? There’s a fifth one, right. You said? Is it in Europe by any chance?

Marcia Smith 25:37
Bob, think back to the last question. It is

Bob Smith 25:39
the Arctic Ocean, the Southern Ocean. That’s it. Okay. The Southern

Marcia Smith 25:43
Ocean, also known as Antarctica, ocean. So there’s a difference between Antarctica ocean and Arctic Ocean. In the Arctic. The ocean is surrounded by continents, while Antarctica is continent surrounded by ocean.

Bob Smith 25:59
Yes. Here’s a little factoid. Alright, you got something to wrap us up?

Marcia Smith 26:04
Oh, sure. And this is from that. Scandalous Walt Whitman. Okay. Oh,

Bob Smith 26:08
that guy, the one that was lower than a brute is something like

Marcia Smith 26:12
that. Well, he said, keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you.

Bob Smith 26:19
What is bad about that? What a great saying yes. I

Marcia Smith 26:23
don’t know if that was the line they crucified, but that’s one of his quotes from one of his favorite pieces. Did you ever have to learn Captain My captain? Oh, yes.

Bob Smith 26:32
That was the one he wrote about Lincoln’s assassination. Yeah, captain, my captain learn that in grade school. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was talking about the captain of the ship is gone. Okay. My captain. Yeah. Yeah. Leaves of Grass. That was his big book. Yeah, beautiful stuff. I think I think Walt Whitman is wonderful. He’s the poet of America. All right. That’s it for today. We hope you’ve enjoyed our show on the road or off the road. And we want to say thanks to Bo Joe, our friends, Bob and John, and to Karen and Tim Nolan to who all contributed. Well, at least inspiration to the show today

Marcia Smith 27:06
inspiration. Okay,

Bob Smith 27:08
I’m Bob Smith.

Marcia Smith 27:09
I’m Marcia Smith. Join

Bob Smith 27:10
us again next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on the off ramp. Well, that’s 201 we got past 200 mark.

Bob Smith 27:25
The off ramp is produced in association with CPL radio online and the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin.

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