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202 Keeping Up Appearances Trivia

What two actors with the same name have stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? And why did people in the 18th century want to color their teeth black? Hear the Off Ramp Trivia Podcast.

Marcia and Bob discuss various unconventional trends and historical trivia, including teeth blackening in the 18th century, the evolution of human history, and the origins of popular soft drinks. They also delve into the history of the Pullman railroad, highlighting its significance and early challenges. Bob explains how George Pullman built his first Pullman coach during the Civil War and how it was used for Abraham Lincoln’s funeral procession, raising publicity for the company. Marcia and Bob emphasize the Pullman railroad’s lasting impact on the railroad industry.

Outline

Unusual historical dental trends and dual Hollywood Walk of Fame stars.

  • Marcia and Bob discuss how some people in the 18th century colored their teeth black for fashion, despite the high cost and potential health risks.
  • Bob shares an anecdote about blackening one of his teeth for a role in a movie, highlighting the unusual practice of tooth coloring in the past.
  • Bob Smith discusses the story of two actors named Harrison Ford, one from the 1920s and the other from today.

Population growth, Hollywood stars, and color theory.

  • Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the population of the world, with Bob estimating 15 billion people and Marcia providing a more accurate estimate of 117 billion people based on data from the Population Reference Bureau.
  • Bob Smith and Marcia Smith also discuss the Hollywood Walk of Fame, with Bob mentioning that there are two different Michael Jackson’s on the Walk of Fame, one a musician and the other a key ABC radio personality.
  • Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the concept of color and light, with Bob incorrectly stating that black is the absence of light and Marcia correcting him.
  • Marcia Smith shares a mind-bending fact about black holes, explaining that the inner reaches of a black hole can be the only place in nature where light is completely absent.

Historical facts and trivia.

  • Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the history of the Pullman railroad car, including its origins in Illinois and its use in transporting Abraham Lincoln’s body after his death.
  • Marcia Smith shares interesting facts about George Washington’s hair color, including that he was originally a redhead as a young man and that there is a lock of his hair on display in a museum.
  • Bob Smith asks Marcia Smith questions about historical events and famous people, including the cost of a first-class ticket on the Titanic and what Teddy Roosevelt had stitched into his uniforms during war.
  • Marcia Smith provides answers and additional information, including that the cost of a first-class ticket on the Titanic in today’s money would be $135,000 and that Teddy Roosevelt wore eyeglasses due to poor vision.

History, superstitions, and telephones.

  • Marcia and Bob discuss France’s brief experiment with decimal time in 1793, which divided the day into 10 equal parts with 10-hour days and 100-minute hours.
  • Marcia and Bob discuss origins of superstitions, including knocking on wood and opening umbrellas indoors.
  • Bob Smith shares a trivia question about the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans being seen at the same time for the first time in history.

History, geography, and language.

  • Marcia and Bob discuss the coco de mer palm tree, including its size, growth rate, and endangered status.
  • They also explore the origins of the phrase “not up to scratch,” which comes from early days of bare knuckle boxing and the scratch line that divided the fighting area.
  • Bob Smith and Marcia Smith discuss the population density of Greenland, with Bob revealing it is the least densely populated country on earth, with only 0.07 people per square mile.

History, employment, and quotes.

  • Marcia Smith shares her successful employment history, including working at Fort Laramie and inventing the modern bra.
  • George Carlin’s quote about trying to be happy through material possessions is shared, and the show ends with a thank you to listeners.

Marcia Smith 0:00
In the 18th century, some people colored their teeth black. What? Why? It’s

Bob Smith 0:06
a good question. And two actors with the same name have stars on Hollywood’s Walk of Fame. Both were movie stars. What’s their name? answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with

Marcia Smith 0:20
Bob and Marsha Smith

Bob Smith 0:38
Welcome to the off ramp a chance to slow down steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. Well, Marsha people used to color their teeth black

Marcia Smith 0:52
in 18th century Bob some people would color their teeth black now why do you think they would do that? This is certainly not a commercial for Optic White Colgate.

Bob Smith 1:03
So these aren’t like actors trying to look like Hicks or something. No,

Marcia Smith 1:07
they did this they actually colored their teeth black Yeah.

Bob Smith 1:10
Oh my It’s just like

Marcia Smith 1:12
the opposite of today right? Yes, everybody wants to be very tan and very white jeans.

Bob Smith 1:17
It was for fashion. But why was it actually

Marcia Smith 1:20
wasn’t just fashion it was for a look they wanted to achieve

Bob Smith 1:24
Okay, tell me about the look they wanted to achieve you know, like this. Despite

Marcia Smith 1:27
its high price at the time, Sugar was so popular and in such demand that people would eat so much their teeth would decay Bob Oh, and turn black here. And so that was the cache if you were rich enough your teeth what turned black? Oh my god, the poor class who wanted to up their status in public would black in their teeth so it looked like they too could eat sugar. Where was this England?

Bob Smith 1:54
Wow, that is so strange. So sick. It is but you know, so many things in fashion are like that. Even today. The things are kind of sick. The people do things to look a certain way or look richer. I still think that women wearing high heels although it looks good.

Marcia Smith 2:10
That’s why they do it.

Bob Smith 2:11
I know. But it’s like it wreaks havoc on your body.

Marcia Smith 2:15
It’s terrible for spike heels. Yeah.

Bob Smith 2:16
For your posture and everything. Yes,

Marcia Smith 2:18
dear, but black in my teeth. No, that’s

Bob Smith 2:20
okay. Well, we won’t do that. I only had to do that once. Remember, I did that thing where I played an outlaw and his brother. That was funny. Yeah, so they blackened one of my teeth. So I look like you look cute. Well, this guy was cute to two actors with the same name. Have stars on Hollywood’s Walk of Fame. I have to think what is the name?

Marcia Smith 2:42
It has to be something like you John Smith, Bob Smith. Tom Jones. No, it’s not Dale Schwarzkopf. No.

Bob Smith 2:50
It’s a really famous film name these days. And there was an earlier star with the same name to film stars with the same name. Identical not related. Yeah. Okay. Tell me Harrison Ford. Really? Yes. Today. We all know actor Harrison Ford. We got to know him first from Star Wars and the Indiana Jones films and he’s gone on to make more than 70 films. But there was another Harrison Ford, the original Harrison Ford. He too made movies more than 80 films to be exact. And he too, was a dashing and handsome man in his time. Few actors have played with as many prominent picture stars as Harrison Ford. That’s a quote from 1928 Oh, wow. About this guy, who was born in 1884. He was leading man on Broadway for a decade before he moved to Hollywood in 1915. And you can see his name on silent movie posters next to Clara Bow and Marian Davey so he was a big star. And he got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. And you can find his in front of Musso And Frank’s grill in Hollywood. It looks identical to the one of though Harrison Ford up today in front of the Dolby Theater on Hollywood Boulevard. But this guy was so well known that when Harrison Ford, the Harrison Ford of today became a movie star. He was originally built as Harrison J. Ford. So that’s the story of why there are two Harrison Ford’s on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. All right,

Marcia Smith 4:15
Bob, about how many billions of people have ever lived, give or take a billion?

Bob Smith 4:21
That’s a good question. Because how many billions are there today? Four or 5 billion?

Marcia Smith 4:24
There are? I can tell you that? Let me see. It’s in my 8 billion 8 billion airily. nearly 8 billion today, 8

Bob Smith 4:31
billion people in winter. Yeah. Holy cow. I remember when it was 3 billion people that was like, Yes, I do. Because I have a record when I was a kid from the United Nations and they had a song called 3 billion millionaires. And it was about the world. That’s all the people that were in the world at the time. 1963. So I would think since it took a long time to get to 3 billion, maybe there’s only been 15 billion People

Marcia Smith 5:00
now okay 100 17 billion 170 billion P that incorporates the 8 billion today, which is about 7% of all the people believed to have walked the face of the Earth, our face of the earth is like that in the course of human history. Okay. 117 billion people. Well, who’s who’s saying this? The population reference bureau? That’s the source for this for the numbers. Yeah. Oh, gosh,

Bob Smith 5:27
okay. I didn’t know there was an authority zone is that I didn’t need that somebody just opened that office up, down on on Brown Street or something down

Marcia Smith 5:37
the street. It’s some Vagabond who get a government paycheck. Here’s

Bob Smith 5:42
a podcast. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 5:44
Okay. But you know, the number keeps changing because our understanding of human history keeps evolving. When the bureau initially calculated the number, modern Homo sapiens were thought to have first appeared around 50,000 years ago BCE, but recent discoveries put the actual date closer to 200,000 BCE. That’s a big that’s a long time ago. Yeah. And that Bob, those numbers are from the population reference bureau. There we

Bob Smith 6:14
go again. Okay. As I mentioned, there are two different Harrison Ford’s on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Did you know there are two different Michael Jackson’s on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Now. One is the musician. The other was a key ABC radio personality Michael Jackson. All right now there are five categories on the Walk of Fame in Hollywood. What are they TV,

Marcia Smith 6:34
film, radio, records, music, music, and Broadway.

Bob Smith 6:42
Well, live theater live theater live theater. I did it. Yes, you did. Thank you. Radio, movies, music, television and theater or live performances. Now four famous performers have four different stars. Can you name one of those people? For performers? Four different stars?

Marcia Smith 7:00
Can I name one of them? Yeah, yes. Barbra Streisand. No, no, no, she

Bob Smith 7:05
doesn’t have four stars for different

Marcia Smith 7:07
you know, for producer.

Bob Smith 7:08
I’ll give you a hint. One of them is a comedian, famous comedian. Okay, I’m trying to make it easy for you. Okay, one was a cowboy star. Gene Autry. No. He actually has five, five star he is the only Hollywood performer who has five stars one in each category. Gene Autry, really but there are four performers that have four stars. So who are those people? One is a cowboy star. He and his wife his wife had a TV show years ago was it had a horse called trigger? Yeah, there we go. You got one okay. Okay, so the four famous performers who have four different stars are Bob Hope Tony Martin, Roy Rogers and Mickey Rooney and the only one with five stars is Gene Autry who’s almost forgotten today

Marcia Smith 7:56
in all different categories Barbra Streisand would fit in and other people or

Bob Smith 8:01
she might but she didn’t go on for radio. All right,

Marcia Smith 8:04
I believe you. Okay, ready? Yes. Is Black a color is white to color. Black

Bob Smith 8:10
is all the colors in one white reflects all the colors it’s not the way it is black? Black absorbs of colors are all the colors absorbed are black. White is all the colors reflected. That’s my remember. It’s your science. That’s

Marcia Smith 8:25
your remembrance.

Bob Smith 8:26
I remember you

Marcia Smith 8:27
miss remember? Oh my god, you weren’t close though. Okay. Picture a rainbow which comprises the visible spectrum of light. I’m picturing it right now. And you’ll notice that Black isn’t in it that kind of depressing a black rainbow. Anyway, scientifically speaking, black is the absence of light. That’s what black Okay, and because light is required for color black contains no color. Blacks, just the opposite of what I thought. Yeah, blacks opposite white is the total of all colors in the visible spectrum. Wow, I

Bob Smith 9:00
had it all wrong. I said it all wrong, Marcia.

Marcia Smith 9:03
And here’s another mind bending fact. Okay, nothing in nature can be pure absence of light black, except the inner reaches of the black hole or

Bob Smith 9:14
my soul. On a very dark night.

Marcia Smith 9:21
Do you want to say

Bob Smith 9:23
Oh, my goodness. You got your little Rod Serling voice there. Yeah, picture if you will. Okay, Marshall, who was the first person of note to ride on a Pullman railroad car? The first person of

Marcia Smith 9:37
note I will say was the the mayor of Chicago,

Bob Smith 9:41
not from Chicago, but he was from Illinois. Abraham Lincoln. That’s right. And it was when he was dead. Crofts? Yeah. Abraham Lincoln didn’t say that at all. I said it was the first person of note to ride on the Pullman railroad was alive and riding would be the body of Abraham Lincoln. It was the funeral train They took the body from Washington to Springfield George Pullman built his first Pullman coach during the Civil War. And at first no railroad would buy a car from him because it was so heavy and it didn’t fit all the tracks. But when Lincoln died, Pullman saw the chance to pay his respects and get his car on the rails. So he told Colonel James Bowen, and this is Lincoln that his luxury car was at their disposal. And it was also used by General Grant to take him from Detroit to Galena and after this publicity contract after contract came in for the Pullman coaches. So that’s where they began hoppy

Marcia Smith 10:32
down with Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, so den president. That’s how the cheese had came into being he took it on the road to the Super Bowl down in Florida. He made that guy made that cheese head out of his mother’s stuffing in her couch. Give

Bob Smith 10:46
it to you to bring it back to Wisconsin. Marsha, do you see that the Packers are cheeseheads there must be other categories we can get to here.

Marcia Smith 10:53
No, the Pullman thing I didn’t know about Chicago and Illinois and Pullman. That’s fascinating. Okay,

Bob Smith 10:59
but your next question, and it’s not hopefully about the packers or cheese head. No, it’s

Marcia Smith 11:04
not okay. It’s your wheelhouse. What us precedent was a redhead. A redhead? Uh huh.

Bob Smith 11:12
Wow, read it. Was it George Washington.

Marcia Smith 11:15
Did you know that? I

Bob Smith 11:15
think I remember he was originally a redhead before he became white hair as a kid. He was a redhead as a young man. He’s a redhead.

Marcia Smith 11:21
He was wearing that wig all the time. Yeah, that’s why he thought he was white. But no, he actually had reddish brown hair and it was captured and portraits painted of him when he was much younger. And one example can be seen in the painting of the courtship of Washington depicting Washington with his wife, Martha and her kids. Wow, that’s interesting. Anyway, here’s the state even has a lock of hair that displays its amber hue. Oh, really? It kept its color. After all, these hair doesn’t lose its color once it’s out of your head.

Bob Smith 11:51
I didn’t know that in March. There’s all kinds of things I didn’t know about the color black. Why did your hair color

Marcia Smith 11:58
dye color deficient?

Bob Smith 12:00
I’ve lost my sense of color here. I got a couple of a historic questions for you, Mr. Sure. Okay. How much did a first class ticket on the Titanic cost?

Marcia Smith 12:10
Oh, gosh. I will say

Bob Smith 12:15
$45. That would be a lot of money back in 1912 $50. That would be a lot of money back in 1928 50. No. 4000 Oh, yeah. In 1912 $4,260 in 1912 for a ticket on that Titanic and a one way ticket at that party. How much is that worth in today’s money? $135,173 is what a first class ticket would have cost on the Titanic and today’s money. In today’s money. Yeah. Can you imagine that

Marcia Smith 12:51
now? Well, look at those people were beyond wealthy. They were all inherited or big Titans discovered? Yeah.

Bob Smith 12:58
$135,000 for a trip. Yeah, you’re right. That just shows how much wealth those people have.

Marcia Smith 13:04
Oh, yes. Famous families.

Bob Smith 13:06
Speaking of famous people have another question. Yeah. famous person. Teddy Roosevelt. What did he have stitched into his uniforms when he went to war? His

Marcia Smith 13:14
name and address? No. Casey lost it. What did he have stitched into?

Bob Smith 13:20
D Roosevelt had something stitched into his uniforms. When he went to war. He needed them. He

Marcia Smith 13:25
needed them them wasn’t. What was it? He was always smoking a pipe or chewing tobacco.

Bob Smith 13:32
What did he wear cigar? What is he known for? Cigars? No hats. No. Every picture you’ve ever seen if Teddy Roosevelt he wore these glasses, eyeglasses, yes. They’re even on his face at the Mount Rushmore eyeglass? Yeah, yeah, Teddy Roosevelt’s vision was so bad. He wasn’t able to function without eyeglasses. And when he went to war in 1898, he had several pairs stitched into the linings of his uniforms.

Marcia Smith 13:57
Hmm, that’s pretty smart. Okay, time for a break.

Bob Smith 14:01
I think it’s time for a break. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marsha Smith. We’ll be back in just a moment. We’re back. We’re back. We’re back with the off ramp. I’m Bob Smith. This is Marcia Smith with me. And we do this for the Cedarburg Public Library Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and it’s CPL, radio, internet radio station. And after that it goes on podcast platforms around the world around the world. Okay, what’s your next question?

Marcia Smith 14:26
All right. According to history facts, Bob, in 1793. What country used to have a 10 hour day

Bob Smith 14:35
1793? Yeah, a country had a 10 hour day. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 14:39
And this is not a little unknown country. This is a big country.

Bob Smith 14:43
Oh, wait a minute. I heard something about this. Was it Russia by any chance? No. Okay. It wasn’t Russia. Wasn’t Russia. Was it France by any chance?

Marcia Smith 14:52
Why do you say that?

Bob Smith 14:53
Well see, countries with dictators, kings. Always we’re doing things like this, declaring it’s a 10 hour de no foot is as long as my foot as long as my No, no kidding, that would be funny. Okay, so what’s the story here? You’re

Marcia Smith 15:09
right it’s France. French revolutionary time was short lived concept that used the base 10 timekeeping system base 10. It’s called, otherwise known as decimal time. This unprecedented method included get this 10 hour days, 100 minute per hour, 100 seconds per minute, each day was divided into 10 equal parts with zero making the start, which is now midnight, and five denoting the midpoint at noon. Wow, this meant that every hour was more than twice as long as an hour of standard time today, new clocks were even manufactured displaying both decimal time and Standard Time. And guess what, there was considerable confusion. You

Bob Smith 15:54
know, I’ve always wondered why we went to a decimal system of 100 with a Roman So why wasn’t everything measured by 100? And that this is an example of where they divided the day into 100. which sort of

Marcia Smith 16:05
makes sense. It would be easy, wouldn’t it? Well, that was adopted in 1793. But the system was deemed optional just two years later, because everybody hated it. So whenever you say optional, that kills it. Yeah, that was after two years. They did that because nobody wanted to adopt it and completely abolished by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 1 1806. So that lasted 1793 to 1806.

Bob Smith 16:33
Well, Napoleon really changed a lot of laws for the better actually in France. But you got Bob, where does the action and the expression knock on wood come from Marcia. Knock on wood? Ah, knock on wood. Good luck.

Marcia Smith 16:48
Yeah. It comes from

Bob Smith 16:50
an ancient belief of I’m gonna help you

Marcia Smith 16:53
hear of timber barons, who? I have no idea.

Bob Smith 16:57
It comes from an ancient belief that trees were inhabited by Gods so go custom of knocking on wood for good luck or protection was asking God for protection. Well, I can i That’s a no you can’t go back and do a redo. Now. It’s too late. Too late and edit me

Marcia Smith 17:14
of saying it right. No. Okay, so that was for good luck. You’d knock on wood right? Right to avoid bad luck. Want to guess why it became bad luck to open an umbrella indoors? You wouldn’t open an umbrella indoors. You know that one, though? I

Bob Smith 17:29
didn’t know that. Oh, yeah. I mean, I’ve had I usually go into buildings and leave the umbrella open there. So it drives

Marcia Smith 17:35
it’s just an old timey. Look. I

Bob Smith 17:37
didn’t know that. Yeah. Okay. What’s the story on that story? Well, the

Marcia Smith 17:40
umbrella is actually an ancient African innovation intended as portable shade against the sun. Oh, that’s interesting. I didn’t care about the rain

Bob Smith 17:48
portable shade. I love that concept. Mobile shade it’s a new thing.

Marcia Smith 17:53
The bad black superstition came from the African belief that to open the umbrella in the shade was an insult to the sun god Wow. And would cause him to bring down his wrath on the offender. So that’s the origin of that superstition is the wrath of the sun god Wow. Didn’t when the guests that one. Okay,

Bob Smith 18:13
Marcia, what city of 8 million people as late as 1977 only had 208,000 telephones and not one telephone book.

Marcia Smith 18:24
This is true. Would you say that whole thing again? What this

Bob Smith 18:27
was a city of 8 million people. It’s more than that now, but as late as 1977. It had only 208,000 telephones out of 8 million people and not a telephone book to be found by 1977. Marsha Yeah, yeah, there

Marcia Smith 18:42
we just slammed landlines. Yes. Okay. I will say is it South America?

Bob Smith 18:46
No. Another part of the world Greenland No, Australia. No. Near and Australia, Cairo, Egypt. Oh, really? Yeah, the phone system was said to have been practically worthless during the work day. In fact, Cairo businessmen often flew to Athens Greece to place phone calls from hotels back in those days, but his latest 1977 had had only 208,000 telephones. See it? So many things have changed. Okay, Marcia, when were the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans first seen at the same time? They were seen for the same time. For the first time during our lifetime. That’s my clue.

Marcia Smith 19:24
Oh, by an astronaut. No,

Bob Smith 19:27
no by television. This was a stunt that was pulled on network television. Okay. 1951 When Edward armour was first see it now television program aired November 18 1951. It showed both oceans on a live split screen demonstrate the power of television that’s very clever is that that was what a neat idea. Can you imagine being in a conference room I got an idea. Let’s go all ships at the same time. Like

Marcia Smith 19:56
minded people will be amazed amazed at Move. You probably haven’t heard or maybe you have of the coco de mer palm tree,

Bob Smith 20:05
the coco de mer. Yes. That’s the cocoa tree by the sea.

Marcia Smith 20:10
Yes. I guess that’s what it means. Okay. They grow up to 110 feet tall Bob. Wow,

Bob Smith 20:15
that’s that’s like a 17 storey building. They didn’t know that and

Marcia Smith 20:19
they’re tapped by leafs with fronds. 30 feet long, and their seeds are longer than a foot. Wow. How much do you think their seeds weigh? Want to take a guess? Seed

Bob Smith 20:29
of a CoCo Coco? Coco Dimir. Yeah, the seeds are a foot long, so I bet they must weigh six pounds. 55

Marcia Smith 20:37
pound fee cow. They’re gargantuan trees, and considered endangered. They’re native to just two of the Seychelles 150 islands. mazing experts believe they’re only about 8000 mature trees left and they’ve taken up to 50 years before they’re able to reproduce. 50 years before you have a seed. That’s amazing. 10 years to ripen. Its fruit. Okay, Marcia

Bob Smith 21:02
some medical history. How is the father of surgery responsible for seven up and other soft drinks? When was it Marcia? And who was it?

Marcia Smith 21:12
Louis Pasteur

Bob Smith 21:14
No, it’s not Louis Pasteur, I don’t know. In 1807 to Philadelphia Dr. Philip Singh physic the father of American surgery, ask a chemist to prepare carbonated water for a patient flavour was added to make the drink more palatable. And from there on. They weren’t medicinal drinks anymore. They were soft drinks. Okay, so today’s soft drinks. It all started in medicine in surgery. Okay.

Marcia Smith 21:39
Why, Bob? Why?

Bob Smith 21:41
I don’t know Marsha. What’s the answer?

Marcia Smith 21:43
Why do we say somebody isn’t up to scratch?

Bob Smith 21:46
I never heard of that one.

Marcia Smith 21:48
Come on. I

Bob Smith 21:49
heard not up to speed. not up to scratch. No, I didn’t hear that.

Marcia Smith 21:52
I don’t really that’s very common. Expression. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of that. You know, if you do bad work, it’s not up to scratch. Okay, well, where did that come from? All right. During the early days of bare knuckle boxing, a line was scratched across the center of the rink, dividing it into two halves, and then the fighters would meet there to start the contest. It’s where they told the line another expression to that one that came from that to to begin each round. If one of the fighters was unable to tow the line without help. Then he was said not to be up to scratch scratch line, the scratch line. Yeah, you got something for me. I

Bob Smith 22:30
do. Think of all the cowboy films you saw on all the settlers heading west on covered wagons, and then being surrounded by Indians or Native Americans. And then there have been being a slaughter, right. That was in a lot of films back in the day. So how many white settlers were actually killed on the Oregon Trail from 1840 to 1860. And the idea, Oh, geez. Now a quarter of a million people went on that trip really? From the east coast of Oregon and California. How many were killed by Indians?

Marcia Smith 23:01
Were they all together or in separate little groups? They weren’t in one

Bob Smith 23:03
big wagon train Marcia. Quarter of a million people. This is from 1840 to 1860s.

Marcia Smith 23:10
Okay, that’s what I thought just just verifying how

Bob Smith 23:12
many white settlers out of a quarter of a million are documented as having been killed on the Oregon Trail. I’ll say I have no idea. Less than 400. What? Yes. Wow, white murders by the Indians have been exaggerated out of proportion in many cases. Now that’s not in all the West that’s just on the Oregon Trail. That that was interesting. They race from the plains across 1842 1860 by John UNRWA, Jr. Okay, Marcia, again, of geography your favorite subject? Which country is the least densely populated? Now here’s a hint, our you ultimate choice. It has less than 1/10 of a person per square mile. less than 1/10 of a person it has to be. That’s pretty small. It’s talking DNA. Now Marsh,

Marcia Smith 24:00
it has to be a very vast land. It is in the northern latitudes. Yeah.

Bob Smith 24:04
What country?

Marcia Smith 24:05
Is it something like Greenlanders? Yes, it is. Alright.

Bob Smith 24:10
Ironically, it’s not only the least densely populated country, it’s the biggest island. It has such a low population density that mathematically it has just 0.07 of a person per square mile get lonely seven hundredths of a person per square mile. Yeah, we’d have to have to live with 07 Assemble a lot of people there to have one. Yes.

Marcia Smith 24:33
Certainly one Bob.

Bob Smith 24:36
Oh, man. Now that is the least densely populated place on earth for a country and what’s the least densely populated state in the United States?

Marcia Smith 24:44
I would say bom bom. It’s out west. Yeah, I know that. I would say something like, I’d say Utah

Bob Smith 24:54
and you would be wrong. It’s Wyoming. It

Marcia Smith 24:58
is. Yeah, I know that army’s there Right? Yes. Fort Laramie is in while I was offered a job there was

Bob Smith 25:05
back again back to Marcia. Either it’s Wisconsin and packers or your your employment history,

Marcia Smith 25:12
which is vast. Okay. All right. I’m finishing up now we want to

Bob Smith 25:16
talk about your successful employment history. How long is that?

Marcia Smith 25:19
Didn’t you hear it in past already? Okay. Before we get to my quote, let me finish up with Mary Phelps. Jacob. Who is she? Sounds familiar. It does. In 1913. Bob, she invented the first successful modern ladies Brazil.

Bob Smith 25:37
Oh, that’s it? Yes.

Marcia Smith 25:38
You knew that.

Bob Smith 25:39
I thought I was thinking Brazil for some reason. You always are

Marcia Smith 25:43
thinking, well, that’s different. She eventually sold her patent to Warner Brothers. I think that’s the same Warner abroad company today. It

Bob Smith 25:51
is the same word brought company today, right? Yeah.

Marcia Smith 25:54
What exactly was her invention made up of? What

Bob Smith 25:58
was her invention made?

Marcia Smith 25:59
It look like

Bob Smith 26:00
two bushel baskets tied together?

Marcia Smith 26:03
Well, you have big dreams Bob. Big

Bob Smith 26:06
Dreams. Big dreams. What what did it look like? I’m sorry, but it looked like a bra. I don’t know what just two cups and

Marcia Smith 26:12
now there were no cups. Okay, it was to hankies and a ribbon. Oh,

Bob Smith 26:18
yeah. To hankies and a ribbon. Yeah. To handkerchiefs, and a ribbon. hankies. That’s the bra. Yeah. Wow. Okay. But

Marcia Smith 26:26
anyway, it was the first successful modern bra. They bought it. She made money on it, and she went on, and she didn’t die till 1970. Oh,

Bob Smith 26:35
I didn’t know that. Yeah. So when was that? When was that first bra

Marcia Smith 26:38
1913 1813 same

Bob Smith 26:40
years, the Titanic sank. Women’s bosoms came up. That’s right. Okay. Absolutely. Make sure I had that. That’s how I’ll remember it. From now on.

Marcia Smith 26:49
We were talking about the cost of sailing on the Titanic back then I’m going to finish with a quote from the sage George Carlin. He said trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body.

Bob Smith 27:09
All right. We hope you’ve enjoyed the show today. And if you’d like to contribute, you can go to our website, the off ramp dot show, scroll all the way down to contact us leave us a message and we would really enjoy hearing from you.

Marcia Smith 27:20
And thank you for joining us. We really appreciate it.

Bob Smith 27:23
I’m Bob Smith.

Marcia Smith 27:24
I’m Marcia Smith. And

Bob Smith 27:25
join us again next time when we return with more fascinating facts tantalizing trivia

Marcia Smith 27:30
on the off ramp.

Bob Smith 27:34
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