273 Ringside Seat Trivia

Marcia Smith 0:00
Did you ever wonder why a boxing ring is square?

Bob Smith 0:19
Wow, I never thought of that, but you’re right. Rings are round, okay, and what middle eastern city was named Philadelphia, really, for nearly 900 years? Answers to those and other questions coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob

Marcia Smith 0:20
And Marcia Smith.

Bob Smith 0:36
Welcome to the off ramp, a chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. It’s the podcast dedicated to lifelong learning of very important things like this geometry question Marcia has okay. What is it again?

Marcia Smith 0:56
Okay? Did you ever wonder why a boxing ring is square?

Bob Smith 1:00
That is a good question. I never, I never thought of it being a ring and thinking, well, rings are all round, always round. That’s right. Ring around the rosie, bring around your finger all of those things, bathtub rings.

Marcia Smith 1:10
This program is to make you rethink your thoughts.

Bob Smith 1:13
So we’re rethinking rings. So why is a boxing ring called a ring?

Marcia Smith 1:18
In the days of bare knuckle boxing before modern rules, a circle was drawn in the dirt, and prize fighters were ringed by the crowd.

Bob Smith 1:27
Ringed by the crowd. So they were surrounded by the crowd, and the crowd was like a circle around them.

Marcia Smith 1:31
Yeah, and they were in a ring. There was a circle. So there’s two rings going there. When one of the boxers was knocked out of the circle, he was simply pushed back into the ring. By the fans come 1867 the marquee of Queensbury introduced a number of rules to boxing, including three minute rounds and a roped off square, which fans continued to call the boxing ring. I’ll be done. I just kept the word going, okay, and that’s that’s all there is to that.

Bob Smith 2:00
Even though it’s a rectangle or a square, yeah, we call it a ring.

Marcia Smith 2:04
Yeah, because it’s just a force of habit from the good old days.

Bob Smith 2:08
Wow, that’s pretty interesting. I never thought of that. No, very good. Well, now you have here. Well, you never thought of this, Marcia. Did you know that in the Middle East there is a city that was named Philadelphia for nearly 900 years that where cream cheese is from? No, no, what city in the Middle East is

Marcia Smith 2:27
what has a different name now say Cairo. It goes back to its original name, actually, okay, I’ll say Cairo. No, you’re saying wrong.

Bob Smith 2:35
It’s not Cairo.

Marcia Smith 2:36
Why do you all smile when you say you’re saying wrong?

Bob Smith 2:39
No, the answer is Amman Jordan. Now, it was given the Greek name Philadelphia during its Greek Nabataean, Roman and Byzantine era. So it went through four different types of civilizations, being known as Philadelphia, from the third century BC to the seventh century AD. That’s a long time. With the start of the Islamic era, the city regained its ancient name of Amman. Now this is the mind blower here. What do we think of when we think of the name Philadelphia? What does it supposedly mean in Greek? I

Marcia Smith 3:12
have no idea. The city of Oh, brotherly love. The

Bob Smith 3:16
City of Brotherly Love. Well, guess what? What? That’s not what it originally meant. Okay, in 255 BC, the city was seized by Ptolemy the second, who rebuilt and renamed it Philadelphia, in honor of his nickname. Uh huh. It was a nickname he acquired when he married his own sister. Oh, good God. In fact, both of them got the nickname philadelphoi, which means sibling lovers. Oh, my God,

Marcia Smith 3:43
that’s what the name actually means. Wonder if they know this in Philly, oh no,

Bob Smith 3:47
they call it the city of brotherly love, not the city of sibling lovers. That’s funny. Now, their marriage may have not been consummated because it produced no children, but the fact remains, the word Philadelphia means sibling lover, not city of brotherly love, all

Marcia Smith 4:01
right. Well, no wonder they put a little different twist on it.

Bob Smith 4:06
Okay? Oh, my goodness. Okay, Bob,

Marcia Smith 4:08
what two presidents served as a town postmaster,

Bob Smith 4:13
town postmasters. I know one that was Abraham Lincoln. I think he lost money because it was a, you know, business that had a post office, a store with a post office, but I don’t know who the other

Marcia Smith 4:22
person was. I’ll tell you. Okay, who was it? Abraham Lincoln and Harry Truman. Harry Truman was too. Yeah, I didn’t know that presidents of a different era and renown. Yeah, 24 year old Lincoln had the 1833 appointment to postmaster for New Salem Illinois, and it’s applied a steady pay among uncertain times, as well as perks that included a free daily newspaper. Oh,

Bob Smith 4:47
well, that’s a perk. I’m sure you read it too. I’m sure you did.

Marcia Smith 4:52
Lincoln had already failed in a bid for a seat in the state legislature, and the postmaster job provided an opportunity for him to. All up his connections around town by way of personal delivery service, the mail he usually carried in his hat. That’s right. But now for Truman, he was appointed, but he never undertook the responsibilities. Appointed to the position of Grandview, Missouri in December 1914, and he immediately passed along the day to day tasks and the paycheck to a widow who needed the money to support. Well, that’s unlike Harry Truman, that’s Harry, the not yet wealthy future president. Certainly missed the postmaster salary of approximately $50 per month. He noted in his autobiography that would have paid for two farm hands, yeah, so he did miss it, but he gave it to someone who needed it more. Well, I

Bob Smith 5:45
don’t think he ever became wealthy, because when he left the White House, there was no pension for president, so he had no money. They actually passed the pension law because they knew Harry was in such trouble financially, really. Yeah, okay, all right. Marcia, ancient, ancient food. What food did the ancient Egyptians use as a wound disinfectant? Was it liver, moldy bread, goat cheese or raw

Marcia Smith 6:10
salmon? Wow, that’s some interesting. I’ll go with goat cheese. Do you think

Bob Smith 6:14
they used goat cheese as a wound disinfectant? Yes, no, they didn’t. Okay, no, okay. So that leaves either raw salmon, liver or moldy bread. Moldy bread, that’s what they used. Yes, ding, ding, ding. They applied this moldy bread to open wounds, and inadvertently, they took advantage of the science that later was used to create penicillin. So Egyptians did that. They also treated their wounds with honey, which was known to be a natural bacteria killer didn’t know that either. Huh? That’s from the New York Times.

Marcia Smith 6:44
It is interesting. Okay, how about this? Bob, what was the first country to use last names, to use last name or surnames?

Bob Smith 6:53
Okay, I always think of England because it was based on your trade. You know, the Smiths work with metal and so forth. So I would say England? Well, no,

Marcia Smith 7:01
oh, China was the first to get the ball rolling 3000 years ago. Oh, no kidding. And China, yeah. Why? For census purposes, keep track of everybody. Sure, the use of surname spread from the nobility and Gentry to other parts of society, and was largely complete worldwide by the end of the 16th century. Oh, really, so

Bob Smith 7:24
for the past? Gee, that’s the 1500s Yeah. So the past 500 years, we’ve had

Marcia Smith 7:30
surnames, last names, yeah, globally, it started with just people of nobility, and by the time peons got it, it was the 16th century. That’s

Bob Smith 7:39
true. I’ve just mentioned the Ptolemies, Cleopatra’s family, yeah, yeah, they had that name. Everybody knew who they were. Everybody else was Joe or Sam,

Marcia Smith 7:49
Julie or Pete, Sam that lives by the mill, yeah, that’s

Bob Smith 7:51
it. Was always something like that, wasn’t it? Sam, who’s lost one arm, you know, something like that, all right? Marcia, what President kept 1400 pounds of food in the White House, Oh, for God’s and what was the food? Really? 1400 somebody like Taft? Was it? No, it was before that 1400

Marcia Smith 8:09
pounds. Well, is it for parties? And

Bob Smith 8:12
he received it as a gift, really? Yeah. Who would get 1400 pounds? This president received a 1400 pound block of cheese as a gift of the dairy farmers of New York. The President was Andrew Jackson, so he displayed that block of cheese at the White House for over a year, and before leaving office, he invited anyone who wanted to come and take some cheese to come a first hand account recalls men, women and children hacking away at the block until the carpet was slippery with cheese. Oh

Marcia Smith 8:43
my gosh, that’s hard to believe, Bob, is the universe still expanding? I

Bob Smith 8:49
believe it is, isn’t it, or is it contracting? Yes, I think it’s still expanding. Well,

Marcia Smith 8:53
you’re right. Oh, good. Astronomers know that the universe continues to expand, though they disagree on how rapidly. One recent study says that it’s growing at a rate of 73.3 kilometers, which is about 45 and a half miles per second. Oh, my goodness, per mega parsec, with a mega parsec being about 3.3 million light years. So

Bob Smith 9:18
it sounds like it’s very fast. It’s very fast. Still expanding. Isn’t that interesting? Yeah, so the Big Bang is still reaching out there. Yeah? Huh. Okay, all right, back to Earth. Marcia, yes, dear in history, what now common ingredient was brought to Europe during the First Crusade. This is something every house has on a table or nearby during

Marcia Smith 9:39
the crusade. What was brought back to where Europe? What

Bob Smith 9:43
now common ingredient was brought to Europe during the First Crusade. Salt. No, not salt. What? Cane sugar. Cane sugar, it’s believed to have originated as a sweetener in Polynesia, before spreading to India, where. Where it was discovered by the Persian Emperor Darius, the first in 510, BC, sugar then made its way to Western Europe during the First Crusade, which is around the 11th century CE. That’s not that long ago, really, in terms of Earth history. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 10:14
huh. Okay. All right, you’ll like this. All right. Where is the world’s most accurate clock,

Bob Smith 10:20
the world’s most accurate clock. It’s either at the National Bureau of Standards, which is where they had an atomic clock a number of years ago, or it’s the one that’s in England. No,

Marcia Smith 10:31
I would have said those two things. Okay, where is it? It’s located in the basement of a laboratory at the University of Colorado. It’s a clock invented by scientist young ye. The clock is so precise that it would take 15 billion years for it to lose a single second. Oh,

Bob Smith 10:50
my goodness, I’ve never heard of such a No, me neither. How do they know that? Come on, it’s a great claim to make

Marcia Smith 10:57
that absurd number dwarfs the traditional 100 million years that it takes many modern atomic clocks to lose a second. Wow. So that that blew me away. What is this clock made of strontium atoms that are arranged in a to tick at 1 million billion times per second in

Bob Smith 11:17
a 3d lattice, big physics we’re talking here today.

Marcia Smith 11:22
Oh, my God. So, like I said, it’s really, really accurate. And I

Bob Smith 11:26
just want to go back to fruit. What fruit is considered good luck in Greek mythology? My goodness, really? Yeah,

Marcia Smith 11:32
I’ll say, I’ll give you choices. Oh, thank you.

Bob Smith 11:35
It’s strawberry, pomegranate, Apple, cranberry or pomegranate. Which one do you think it

Marcia Smith 11:40
is pomegranate? I was gonna say that before you said

Bob Smith 11:44
it. I wanted to help. Okay, pomegranate. And in Greek mythology, the pomegranate is considered a symbol of fertility and rebirth. It’s mentioned in Homer’s Odyssey. It has had a long standing connection with good health and the Greek culture today, pomegranates are commonly smashed on New Year’s Day. Is that right? Yeah, it’s not like pumpkins are smashed some other places on other holidays, the number of seeds that scatter signify how lucky the coming year will be. Yeah, your pomegranate has more seeds than mine. Well, no, you’re gonna have a better year.

Marcia Smith 12:15
Yeah? You know, those are those little black seeds. You like pomegranates? Yes,

Bob Smith 12:19
of course. Who doesn’t? I don’t even know what a pomegranate? No,

Marcia Smith 12:23
you don’t, all right, Bob, can you trademark a smell?

Bob Smith 12:27
No, you can’t trademark a smell. Wrong? Really? Yeah, you can trademark a smell.

Marcia Smith 12:34
When you think of trademarks, you think of logos and catchy slogans, right? Yeah. But even iconic sounds such as the NBC chimes or deep rumble of the THX logo can be trademark certain sounds, you know, like Dan, Dan. They can even include what we smell as of 2023 there are only 15 officially registered scent trademarks in the United States for products ranging from dental wax to shoe polish, even Play Doh, sweet vanilla smell is trademarked. I didn’t know that. Compare that to the millions of visual logos and sound marks, you can start to see just how unusual this special form of branding really is. Where did that come from? Interesting Facts. It

Bob Smith 13:16
was an interesting fact. Yes, it is aptly named. Then, okay, I think it’s time for a break. Let’s do it. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We’ll be back in just a moment. We’re back. We’re back. We’re back at the off ramp, the old off ramp Ranch, right here in Cedarburg, Wisconsin. And we do this every week for the Cedarburg Public Library, and then it goes on podcast platforms where it is heard all over the world. All right. Marcia, okay, aka, are we ready for that? We are okay.

Marcia Smith 13:45
The category is magazines. All right. Names of magazines, I’ll give you another word for what the magazine is. All right, sure. Also known as, okay. First clue, humans,

Bob Smith 13:58
wow. Humans, people, that’s it. People Magazine, Okay, gotcha,

Marcia Smith 14:02
okay, vodka cranberry. What’s the magazine? Vodka

Bob Smith 14:06
cranberry. Vodka cranberry, I don’t know that one.

Marcia Smith 14:11
It’s a cosmopolitan. Oh, what kind of Martini? Okay, gotcha, okay, I think that was on Sex and the City, okay? 3:47pm 347 3:47pm, what’s the magazine?

Bob Smith 14:25
12 to 12 to four.

Marcia Smith 14:29
It can be any time. I don’t know. Oh, I just gave it away. Time,

Bob Smith 14:33
time, okay? Time magazine. I got it. Okay.

Marcia Smith 14:36
Madonna, song, material. Girl, is that a magazine name? No,

Bob Smith 14:43
Cosmopolitan, Madonna, I don’t know. Marsh. What is it?

Marcia Smith 14:48
Vogue? You know that song? No, I didn’t know that. She did a song called Vogue. Yeah. Okay, sorry, no, okay, here’s one to ponder. 12th letter, the

Bob Smith 14:57
12th letter, yeah. Let me see just a minute. Yeah. Hmm.

Unknown Speaker 15:05
M, close. L,

Bob Smith 15:06
that’s it. L, o,

Marcia Smith 15:07
e, L, L, E, yeah. Oh, Okay, gotcha magazine. Okay, good. L,

Bob Smith 15:11
magazine, Q, R, S, T, U, very

Marcia Smith 15:15
good. Bob, now you know you’re And aren’t we proud of you? Cookie prediction, what’s the magazine? Cookie prediction, Cookie prediction, you got this? Think about it. Cookie prediction,

Bob Smith 15:25
Cookie prediction, yeah, what does it tell you? The flavor, the taste the cookie

Marcia Smith 15:31
prediction, with your Chinese food, oh, fortune,

Bob Smith 15:35
yeah. Fortune Magazine, okay, I got you all right. Thank you. Thank you. Could hear everybody yelling, Bob, Bob, it’s fortune I come back saying, you know, it’s Forbes, isn’t it? Yeah, or was it Business Week? One of the two, yeah,

Marcia Smith 15:47
okay. Last one, well known Grease Monkey. Well

Bob Smith 15:50
known Grease Monkey. And it’s a magazine, popular mechanic. That’s it. Very good, very good. Oh my goodness, there were some head scratchers in there. That’s interesting. Okay, well, I’ve got an unusual tale for you. What was unusual about a world tour a woman named Annie londonberry took. Now, this was in the 1890s she did a world tour. What was unusual about it? I’m gonna tell

Marcia Smith 16:18
you. Okay, I’m sure you will all

Bob Smith 16:20
right, what’s the answer? Any idea, no. What method of transportation did she take to do a world tour? Who was it? Annie Londonderry, 1890s

Marcia Smith 16:31
a world tour, I’d say a balloon.

Bob Smith 16:33
That makes sense. That would be the one you’d take, right? You could fly everywhere, yeah, but you couldn’t bicycle everywhere. But that’s what she did. Well, how do you do that? Well, I’m going to tell you, Okay, this was in 1894 it was a result of a bet in the 1880s Thomas Stevens became the first man to cycle around the world. He did it in 33 months after that, two Boston businessmen, this is like at Trading Places movie, yeah, they wagered $10,000 a woman could not repeat the feat. And Annie kopchowski, a little five foot three, 100 pound, mother of six, a Jewish Latvian transplant, took up the challenge. She was 24 years old at the time. She’d never ridden a bike before, but she wanted to win that $10,000 which was a lot of money in 1894 ain’t bad now. So she changed her name to London berry after being sponsored by the Londonderry Lithia spring water company product placement. Then on June 25 1894 Annie Londonderry kicked her 42 pound sterling bicycle in gear, headed west from Boston to Chicago, but then she reversed her route when she realized she wasn’t going to make it to the Great Plains before winter. So here’s what she did. She cycled back east to New York, then caught a steamship to France, cycled across France to Marseille, caught a ship to Alexandria, Egypt, then traveled to Yemen, sailed to Sri Lanka and Singapore. From there, she rode and sailed her way across Asia, possibly visiting Russia and North Korea, before cycling across Japan. Then she sailed for America from Yokohama. She arrived in San Francisco, not done yet. March 23 1894 and spent the next six months cycling east towards Chicago. She reached it. September 12, 1894 15 months after starting her trip, but 14 days ahead of schedule, her trip earned her $10,000 plus 1000s of dollars from subsequent sponsorships and speaking arrangements. She was a woman, a real woman. 24 year old, Annie Londonderry, good for her. What year was that again? 1894 Wow. What an ambitious thing to do. I’ll say, I just wonder what happened to her six kids? Course, she’s 24 at the time. So are they six

Marcia Smith 18:44
kids at 24 Yeah, Oh, my word. Did they ride their bikes? Did they even have bikes? No, I or was it an understanding husband at home? Give

Bob Smith 18:53
you that you go ahead and go to Wikipedia see if you can find the answer to any of those questions.

Marcia Smith 18:57
Bob, all right, okay, what do anger Wat in Cambodia, Milford Sound in New Zealand, and the Grand Canyon in the United States have in common water.

Bob Smith 19:08
They all have water in common. Oh, is that it? No? Oh, okay. Well, they do all have water in common.

Marcia Smith 19:15
Well, yeah, and they have people and people and dirt and flowers. Yes, I don’t

Bob Smith 19:21
know what the Grand Canyon would have in common with Angkor Wat, but go ahead, tell me. They’re

Marcia Smith 19:25
all considered prime candidates for having the honor of the eighth wonder of the world. Wow, we’ve stuck to seven for but these are the three candidates. If they were ever changed their mind to eight, that’s one of them. Would be it okay? Can you name the seven wonders of the world.

Bob Smith 19:41
Oh, my goodness. Then the Hanging Gardens of Babylon was one of them, the pyramids, correct, Colossus of Rhodes, which is a huge statue, I think, with a lighthouse on top of it. Very good. I don’t know what the others were.

Marcia Smith 19:55
It’s the Great Pyramid of Giza. Hanging Gardens of Babylon, statue of Zeus. At Olympia, the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, the mausoleum of harletakinesis, Colossus of Rhodes and the Lighthouse of Alexandria.

Bob Smith 20:09
All right, Marcia, a dish with what fruit was created for Queen Victoria’s Diamond Jubilee. Now, this is another dish that we think of today. We’ve heard the term, but we never think of it, associating it with the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Victoria.

Unknown Speaker 20:27
It’s a dessert. It’s a dessert

Bob Smith 20:30
made with cherries. Cherries jubilee, that’s right, the famed chef Auguste Escoffier is credited with creating the cherries jubilee dessert in Honor of Queen Victoria’s Diamond Jubilee in 1897 she was known to love cherries, so he poached some of the delectable fruit in simple syrup before then pouring brandy over the pan and lighting the dish a flame. All

Marcia Smith 20:54
right, okay. What President was once governor of Cuba. What? Yeah,

Bob Smith 21:00
governor of Cuba. Yeah. So we had Cuba as a possession at one point, and he was governor. Well, tell me the answer. Okay, thank you,

Marcia Smith 21:13
Mr. President, history, you don’t know the answer this. We do yet. No,

Bob Smith 21:16
I don’t mind. Tell me the answer. William

Marcia Smith 21:19
Howard Taft, really, plenty of presidents were governors before ascending to the White House, but most all of them were in the US. One exception was William Howard Taft, who served as governor of the Philippines and Cuba in 1906 Taft established a provisional government in Cuba and made himself provisional governor, a post he held for two weeks before succeeded by Charles Edward Magoon Taft, went on to serve as president of the United States from 1909 till 1913 and as Chief Justice of the US from 1921 until 1930 that guy had an interesting career. You did a lot, yeah, and

Bob Smith 21:59
he was like President for what, seven or eight years there. We don’t even think of him, yeah. And then he went on to become a Supreme Court, which

Marcia Smith 22:05
was always his goal. He always wanted to be one. That was his lifelong ambition. Okay, not President. Well, that’s

Bob Smith 22:11
pretty interesting. Governor of Cuba. Well, all

Marcia Smith 22:15
right, for two weeks while things got in order, hey, he got it. Yeah, it

Bob Smith 22:19
was his job. Yeah, it’s on the resume, all right, Marcia, what’s the oldest chain restaurant in the United States? And it only goes back to 1919. Oh, gosh, considered the oldest chain restaurant. Said a and w, a and w, root beer. Yeah. It began as a stand. I got another. It began in Wichita, Kansas. Its founders, Roy Allen and Frank Wright, that’s a and w, they began selling their chain restaurant back in 1925 however, some argue that White Castle should hold that title, as it’s been serving its trademark burger since it opened in 1921 but 1919 is when a and w began White Castle,

Marcia Smith 23:02
and a and w were, though still around too. Yeah, that’s amazing. Okay, Bob, does every family have a coat of arms somewhere in their history?

Bob Smith 23:11
No, I don’t think so. I think it comes from the nobility of the English. I thought that’s where it came from. But

Marcia Smith 23:18
there is no such thing as a family coat of arms. Did you know that? No, that’s right, coats of arms are granted to individuals. Oh, I didn’t know that. And only men, no girls allowed. Okay, a coat of arms is typically inherited by the oldest son and can only be handed down to an uninterrupted line of males descended from the original person to whom it was granted, and it is a privilege of nobility. Like you said, the heraldic symbol was emblazoned on a warrior’s shield to the fabric coat outside his armor, which is why it’s

Bob Smith 23:53
called a coat of arms, yeah, because the fabric that was on top, right, right, I knew that.

Marcia Smith 23:57
So if any of our listeners paid someone to find their family’s coat of arms. There is no such thing. Oh, dear. Just, just the original guy.

Bob Smith 24:05
I think I’d rather pay somebody to find out. Is there a star named after me, an equally stupid thing to do? Okay, well, I have a question on cake, and it deals with George Washington. Let him eat cake. No. What kind of cake did George Washington eat to celebrate the end of the Revolutionary War? What

Marcia Smith 24:24
kind of cake? Yes. Who knows? Somebody recorded it. All right, it was carrot cake. Okay.

Bob Smith 24:31
On November 25 1783 after emerging victorious in the Revolutionary War, the newly independent America celebrated British evacuation day. That’s what they called it. Evacuation marking when the British finally left the nation. British evacuation day. We should do that. We call it B, E, D, British evacuation day. He loved carrot cake. George Washington celebrated by feasting on a carrot cake at Francis Tavern in Manhattan. It’s not like the carrot cakes we noticed. Day, though, this one had less sugar, more carrots, no cream cheese frosting. Gee, I wonder how that tasted. Doesn’t sound good, does it? I don’t know. I love carrot cake, yeah, but no cream cheese frosting and less sugar and just a lot of carrots. Yeah. Okay, one more with the President. What food did Richard Nixon ban from state dinners? And why?

Marcia Smith 25:20
Really, oh gosh, he had his peccadillos, didn’t he? He loved

Bob Smith 25:24
his favorite meal was cottage cheese and ketchup. That’s a meal. No, no, that was his favorite meal. I know. I mean, that’s his favorite meal, yes, but he was, it’s like an Elvis Presley thing, cottage cheese and ketchup, like peanut butter and jelly. Wow, yeah. But he was opposed to what soup he wanted to eliminate soup to speed up the state dinners. So Nixon’s Chief of Staff, HR Haldeman, realized that the actual reason Nixon wanted soup banned was because he spilled some on his vest during a dinner with Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau. So that’s why he banned. We’re

Speaker 1 26:00
gonna, we’re gonna ban, we’re panning soup from state dinners for now, no more soup here. It’s a messy thing. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 26:06
you should have served got his cheese and ketchup at all the state dinners. That would have been a thrill.

Bob Smith 26:12
This is your favorite meal, Mr. President, I have some chefs I would like to introduce you

Marcia Smith 26:17
to. Okay, time for my end quotes, okay, okay, here’s two different, very diverse quotes, okay, General Douglas MacArthur, no man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation. Hmm, okay, that’s a fair way. I think it’s true. Yeah, I think so too. And Bob Dylan’s got one pretty much the same. Oh, yeah. Bob Dylan says, I think of a hero as someone who understands the degree of responsibility that comes with his freedom. I think they’re saying the same. That’s very good. Yeah, absolutely. I think Bob might have had a little bigger parameter of, did he

Bob Smith 26:55
sing it? Though that’s the question saying about my freedom,

Marcia Smith 27:00
blowing in the wind. Okay, blowing in the wind. All

Bob Smith 27:02
right. Speaking of that, we’re blowing out right now. I think that’s out. Yeah, well, that’s all for today. Oh, we’re gonna catch the breeze and get out of here. Okay, that’s good. That’s it for today. We hope you enjoyed everything you heard. And if you’d like to, you can participate in the show by suggesting a topic or maybe some questions and decide who should be stumped by those by going to our website, the off ramp, dot show and clicking on contact us on the menu, we would love to hear from you. I’m Bob Smith. I’m Marcia Smith. Join us again next week when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia here on

Both 27:35
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Bob Smith 27:38
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