274 Absorbing Trivia

Bob Smith 0:00
How much extra do stranded astronauts get paid?

Marcia Smith 0:04
Oh, God. And more importantly, why did King Charles the First wear two shirts to his execution?

Bob Smith 0:11
Whoa, answers to those and other mysteries coming up in this episode of the off ramp with Bob and Marcia

Marcia Smith 0:17
Smith.

Bob Smith 0:34
Welcome to the off ramp, a chance to slow down, steer clear of crazy and take a side road to sanity with fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia. It’s the podcast dedicated to lifelong learning, and to that end, Marcia, how much extra do stranded astronauts get paid? I’ll bet they don’t get a penny more. You know, you’re absolutely right. Well, they get a few pennies more, but not much more. And it’s not for pay, it’s for incidentals,

Marcia Smith 1:03
Incidentals like, oh, they used another tube of toothpaste, that sort of thing?

Bob Smith 1:07
Let me explain. Okay, you might think they’d get extra pay for all that time away from their families and friends, but no. In fact, despite being in space around the clock, NASA astronauts are only paid for a 40 hour work week.

Marcia Smith 1:20
Oh, you’re kidding, even though they’re there every weekend, every moment of every day.

Bob Smith 1:25
Yeah, while in space, NASA astronauts are considered to be on official travel orders, meaning their transportation, lodging and meals are covered by NASA. No extra pay for that. But what if you’re stranded in space for nine months? Like that couple, yeah, like Butch Wilmore and Suny Williams. They were supposed to be on an eight day mission, yeah, but that stretched deep into the following year. They were paid their 40 hour a week salaries, that’s all.

Marcia Smith 1:52
But it did keep going.

Bob Smith 1:54
Yes, they continued to get a paycheck. For the record, they made between 84,000 and $152,000 annually, depending on their experience, but extra pay for those nine months, for all the weekends, the holidays. Think of the missed birthdays and anniversaries.

Marcia Smith 2:10
They don’t get. What do they call that? If you have a real crappy job, hazard pay, right?

Bob Smith 2:14
They didn’t get that. All they got was their regular paycheck, plus 4 to $5 extra per day for incidental, like you said, another tube of toothpaste. Oh my gosh. So their extra compensation amounted to only $1,100 to $1,400 for that entire nine months. That’s all.

Marcia Smith 2:33
Well, they don’t do it to get rich, that’s for sure.

Bob Smith 2:35
And by the way, despite the fact the astronauts were trapped in space for nine months, NASA never classified them as stranded. Instead, they were this sounds like an HR thing. “Astronauts on an extended mission.” Tell that to their families!

Marcia Smith 2:51
Very HR. HR. PR, it’s all the Rs. Okay. Oh, my goodness, all right. Bob King, Charles the First. Why did he wear two shirts to his execution.

Bob Smith 3:02
Wow. Now, when was this? 1649 and we know that he wore two shirts to his execution?

Marcia Smith 3:08
Yes, we do. He was beheaded.

Bob Smith 3:10
Wow. Well, he didn’t want to get blood on both of them. I guess is that what it was like? I have to keep one clean here.

Marcia Smith 3:17
No, it’s a different kind of vanity, okay, executed for treason in 1649, King Charles did not want to shiver with cold before his beheading. Oh, my so less people think of him as trembling in fear. I see he wanted to go out appearing unfazed by the beheading, so he wore two shirts for the big occasion.

Bob Smith 3:39
Jeez, that’s amazing.

Marcia Smith 3:42
Yes, they will not see me tremble in there.

Bob Smith 3:45
I don’t want them to remember me as a coward. Yeah, wow. Okay, so wear two shirts. I need more than two.

Marcia Smith 3:51
Yes, you would, God knows, give me five. Okay? Marcia, what routine medical procedure has put us vice presidents in charge three times in American history. Oh, what kind of what procedure? Routine, routine procedure, if a President goes under anesthesia, but for anything dental or physical, you know, like a colonoscopy, is that it?

Bob Smith 4:16
That’s it! That’s right, section three of the 25th amendment of the constitution ratified in 1967 allows the Vice President to temporarily take charge, and that’s been invoked four times in US history since 1967 three of the four times were when a president was having a colonoscopy, two times for George W Bush and one for Joe Biden. The first of four times that the amendment was used was when Ronald Reagan voluntarily transferred power to Vice President George Bush, when Reagan underwent colon cancer surgery. But the 25th amendment was not formally used when Reagan was shot in 1981 because that happened so fast he was. Rushed into surgery immediately and was incapacitated.

Marcia Smith 5:03
So it doesn’t automatically happen.

Bob Smith 5:05
No, there was a debate about whether the vice president should assume the powers and the duties of the President, but no one formally invoked section three or section four of the amendment at that time. So that can still be a dangerous thing.

Marcia Smith 5:16
Yeah, it should be an auto – if he goes under you’re in charge. That should be an automatic thing. Automatic, automatic.

Bob Smith 5:24
Thank you, Marcia, for your learned medical and legal opinion. Yes, advice to the executive branch of the US government. I’ll make sure that that message gets to them tomorrow.

Marcia Smith 5:35
I’ll give them a call. Okay, Bob, how many pounds of dust does the average home produce each year.

Bob Smith 5:40
Oh, this sounds awful, indeed, from dust mites, from all kinds of things we do. How many pounds? Yeah, pounds of dust.

Marcia Smith 5:48
Yeah, there are pounds. That’s hard to believe that there’d be pounds of, you know.With the new see through clean little hole, you know, with the canisters, the see through canisters. Now you go and go, good lord, that from my house?

Bob Smith 6:00
Oh, you mean in the vacuum cleaners, yeah, you’re right,

Marcia Smith 6:03
You actually see it,

Bob Smith 6:04
Yeah, it’s pretty disgusting. Yes, it is. Okay. So how many pounds of dust? Yeah, the average house, yeah, again, two, let’s take five. Five. That’s a lot. It is, but it’s 40 pounds. Oh, my God, that’s like, one of those bags of salt I lug down to the basement.

Marcia Smith 6:20
Yeah, it’s almost a pound a week, actually, isn’t it? Almost, jeez, according to home air check.com which I like to check in with every day, okay, the average home produces 40 pounds of dust, and it’s more than just dust mites, Bob, it includes skin cells, pet dander, pollen and particles from the outdoor environment which come in through your doors, vents and close.

Bob Smith 6:45
So we think it’s – we think of our houses as being more sanitary than that, yeah? So think of what we’re inhaling on the outdoors, outside during the every day and every month of the year. Yeah. Okay, here’s a totally different question for you today. We’re all familiar with Wheaties and having the boxes of cereal with the athletes on them. So who was the first athlete to appear on a box of Wheaties? And I’ll give you choices here. Was it Jim Thorpe, babe dietrichson, Jesse Owens, or Lou Gehrig? What

Marcia Smith 7:14
is the question? Is there a difference athlete to

Bob Smith 7:17
appear on a box of Wheaties? Was it Jim Thorpe? No, it wasn’t Jesse Owens, no, no. Babe dietrichson or Lou Gehrig. Lou

Marcia Smith 7:26
Gehrig, that’s who it was, Marsh. All the chances Come on. Yeah. In

Bob Smith 7:32
1934 Lou Gehrig, the Yankees slugger, became the first athlete featured on boxes of Wheaties cereal. He appeared on the back of the box at the time. That’s how they did it, not on the front. The first athlete to ever grace the cover of the breakfast of champions. On the front was the Olympic gold medalist Bob Richards. And no athlete has appeared on Wheaties boxes more than Michael Jordan. He was on 18 different times. Oh, my

Marcia Smith 7:57
god, that’s amazing, isn’t it? That’s crazy. Yeah, wow, that’s from history.com I hope he kept a box of every one of them, just to show his kids. Okay, Bob, is there a difference in the algorithms on automated cars in the US and Asian countries like Japan? Difference in the algorithms of in automated I would imagine,

Bob Smith 8:20
yes, there would be, because different traffic conditions, different speed limits, all

Marcia Smith 8:25
that kind of stuff. This is more of an ethical an ethical thing question, yes, it has nothing to do with topography. So

Bob Smith 8:32
I’ll say yes. There’s very, very different ethical concerns.

Marcia Smith 8:36
Yes, according to various studies, if an automated car went careening into a crowd of people. Bob, American algorithms prioritize saving children, so it tries to avoid the little people.

Bob Smith 8:49
Oh, no kidding, yeah. So it goes for the bigger people. Yeah.

Marcia Smith 8:53
And by default, while in eastern countries like Japan, where they have a history of revering the elderly, the older people we should go there? Yes. So the larger people are the ones that are spared, the older people are prioritized. You can’t judge their age, but you can judge their size, I suppose. Anyway, so my advice to you, Bob, if you’re at a parade soon and an automated car comes careening towards you, get small. Oh, my bizarre. It

Bob Smith 9:24
is very bizarre. It’s

Marcia Smith 9:26
just a cultural thing. We they revere older people, and we go for the kids. Speaking

Bob Smith 9:30
of bizarre, I’ve got another bizarre one here. What was the final request of the inventor of frisbee golf? He

Marcia Smith 9:38
had a final request? Yes. Oh dear. Well,

Bob Smith 9:41
this is not the inventor of the Frisbee it’s the inventor of the frisbee golf.

Marcia Smith 9:45
How did I miss this in my daily I don’t

Bob Smith 9:47
know. I found it on britannica.com so I’ve got a good source for this. My

Marcia Smith 9:52
many national newspapers didn’t cover that. I will say, I don’t know. Per

Bob Smith 9:58
his last wishes, the. Cremated remains of Edward steady, Ed steady, Hedrick steady. Eddie Hedrick, who created the game of frisbee golf, he asked that his cremated remains be mixed into plastic, plastic that was used to make a number

Marcia Smith 10:14
of Frisbees. Really, he’s out there being tossed around, being thrown around. Well, that’s kind of amusing. Yes, it’s interesting. No algorithms there. Oh, who owns those Frisbees? Family, here’s dad coming at you. Okay, what? Well known queen was barely literate when she got engaged and took the throne.

Bob Smith 10:36
Was it Queen Isabella of Spain? Ah, no. Was it queen? Well, I don’t think it was Queen Elizabeth, the first was it of England? No,

Marcia Smith 10:44
okay. Who was it? It was Marie Antoinette. Oh, no kidding, yes. In 1755, she was born to a Holy Roman Emperor Francis and Empress Maria Theresa the Archduchess. Was the 15th of 16 children. Did you know that? No, I didn’t. And she enjoyed a carefree childhood due to the lax oversight of her governess,

Bob Smith 11:09
who probably was busy with the other 14. Yeah,

Marcia Smith 11:11
yeah. Here you want to watch over these 16 kids. However, her leisurely lifestyle came to an end with the arrangement of her marriage at age 13. Oh dear to the dolphin of France, and with it was a discovery that she was barely literate. The French court promptly provided a tutor, actually a ballet teacher, to help her, and he sent back reports of his pupils, short attention span in painfully slow handwriting. Ultimately, that cram sessions helped Marie Antoinette gain a command of French language and history.

Bob Smith 11:45
She was a teenager in school. There’s the problem, right there. It just happens, right? Yes.

Marcia Smith 11:51
So anyway, she got through it and became a wife and a queen

Bob Smith 11:55
and eventually a martyr. Yes. Marie Antoinette,

Marcia Smith 11:59
she could comport herself with the grace of a queen. So she’s the one.

Bob Smith 12:03
She’s the one who is illiterate at the time she was made queen, wow. And then the delphon, he became Louis the 16th. Is that? Right? Yeah, okay. And then they both were killed during the French Revolution, executed, all right? Marcia. Ancient Egyptians worshiped What vegetable as a symbol of eternal life. We did the Greeks last week. Now we’re doing the ancient Egyptians. Now, was it the zucchini, the spinach, asparagus, or the onion?

Marcia Smith 12:29
Well, golly, I’ll say the zucchini.

Bob Smith 12:35
No, I’m sorry. I don’t know why you should know this, but I’m telling you, it’s not that. Okay, okay, it’s the onion. Ah, the ancient Egyptians considered the onion to be a symbol of eternal life due to its spherical shape and its concentric ring pattern, oh, that it has Yes, and they were used as funeral offerings, often depicted being held by priests in paintings used as adornments in the mummification process. Ancient Buddhists, on the other hand, they forbade the consumption of onions, fearing that they affected the liver. Really, I was like the idea of onions, you keep peeling it away, and you keep getting more and more, and so that’s why it’s eternal. That’s why I thought it would be eternal. But no,

Marcia Smith 13:10
that’s good. That’s good. Bob, thank you. Here’s a question, mix smarty pants, Mr. History. I’m curious if you know what this is, okay, what was the Kellogg Briand pact of 1928 the Kellogg Briand pact. It’s Brian is, b, r, I, a, n, d, did

Bob Smith 13:29
that have something to do with Germany? About the first Germany, the Germany after World War One? Yes, okay, was it basically a, see, it was a like a treaty, wasn’t

Marcia Smith 13:42
it? It was international relations changed dramatically after World War One, public opinion sways heavily against war, and peacekeeping measures were at the top of political agendas. One of the most ambitious attempts at deterring future conflict was signed on August 27 1928 the Kellogg Bryant pack Outlawed War between all the nations that signed. Oh, well, okay, did you know that? And it’s still going. The pack was named after US Secretary of State, Frank Kellogg and French Minister of Foreign Affairs and stride Bryant. Okay, 15 nations signed the initial treaty, and then 47 others came aboard and see how well it’s worked. Well, apparently, while acts of aggression were outlawed, self defense was permitted, which led to the Pac’s eventual downfall.

Bob Smith 14:32
Yes, because everybody can say, I’m doing this in self defense, yeah, and they

Marcia Smith 14:36
do, even if it’s not true. All right, Bob, what are the tallest living beings in the world?

Bob Smith 14:43
The tallest living beings, aren’t they trees?

Marcia Smith 14:46
Yes, that’s how they phrase it, too. I can

Bob Smith 14:49
think of them as creatures, same thing. Yeah, you’re right, yeah. So those are the redwoods. Is that the one

Marcia Smith 14:54
that’s it with a narrow range stretching for about 450 miles from Big Sur. Southern Oregon, west coast redwoods are the tallest living things in the world. That’s amazing. One in particular surpasses them all, and named after a titan in Greek mythology, is 380 feet tall. That’s 65 feet taller than London’s Big Bend amazing.

Bob Smith 15:17
Thinking of something that tall that’s a living creature. Yeah, it’s fantastic.

Marcia Smith 15:22
Okay, and here’s just a little note, a typical coast redwood also removes 250 tons of carbon from the atmosphere during its lifetime, compared to just one ton for a typical tree.

Bob Smith 15:34
How much dust would it remove from our house, though, that’s my question. 40 pounds a year.

Marcia Smith 15:38
Scientists are finding ways to clone some of the oldest redwoods that have ever lived in the hopes of curtailing climate change. That would

Bob Smith 15:46
be good. That’s a good use of cloning, as opposed to, let’s clone this dinosaur because we want to make bags out of this. Oh, yeah. What was that? I don’t know. It’s just ridiculous, yeah, okay, Marcia, I think it’s time for a break, indeed. All right, you’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We’ll be back in just a moment. We are back. We have returned. You’re listening to the off ramp with Bob and Marcia Smith. We do this each week for the Cedarburg Public Library, Cedarburg, Wisconsin, then we put it on podcast platforms, and it’s heard all over the world, okay? Marcia, what Hollywood studio fought to give its film an X rating, and why? Okay, it fought to get an X rating. Well,

Marcia Smith 16:31
MGM, Gone With the Wind. Who? No, it wasn’t.

Bob Smith 16:34
They never had an X rating on Gone With the Wind. Now, who would? But I thought movie people didn’t want an X rated. That’s right. Movie, people generally didn’t want X rays. They want more people to see it. That’s right. Okay, so why would somebody want an X rating? Makes no sense to me. Tell me, Okay, now we’re at the 55th anniversary recently of Midnight Cowboy. It’s the movie Midnight Cowboy, okay? The studio was United Artists, and it was probably the first mainstream film to explicitly depict prostitution and a homosexual relationship. It was released at a time when homosexuality was actually illegal in the United States. United Artists was fine distributing the film, and so was director, John Schlesinger, even though he was gay himself secretly. But one studio executive was concerned. Studio executive, Arthur Crim, was especially concerned about the film’s impact on young people, so he consulted with a psychologist who expressed concern about the potential influence on the younger generation, suggesting it might encourage them to try the behaviors it depicted. By that, he meant prostitution and homosexuality. Let’s go do that. Yeah, the film’s original rating was restricted. That meant minors could see the film if accompanied by adults. So Crim decided he would ask the Motion Picture Association of America to classify the film X that way no one under age 18 could see the film whether accompanied by an adult or not. I think he was worried about lawsuits or something, so they got an X rating, and it led to problems with the film being distributed. Some newspapers wouldn’t run ads for it, because x was only for porn at the time. But to everybody’s surprise, Midnight Cowboy became a huge commercial hit, a success credited with realistically depicting subcultures in modern America. So few years after the film won Best Picture, because it won Best Picture, that was an X rated film, people don’t remember that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences urged the MPAA to reconsider the rating so they re rated it R anybody under 17 had to be admitted with an adult, but they could come in and they didn’t change one frame of the film. Okay, so Jon Voight and and Dustin Hoffman, that movie made their careers for sure. It was amazing. Okay, very different film, though it’s a time I know even and I was only like 19 at the time, it was a very different film.

Marcia Smith 18:53
Okay, Bob time for AKA, also known as, all right, I’m ready. I’m up for it. Here’s the category you dream about getting it’s called last names of us. President, Oh, good. If you don’t get this, I’m in big trouble. You’re in big trouble. Okay, all right, Seattle, state, Washington,

Bob Smith 19:13
right? Shrub, shrub, a tree. Wait a minute. Shrub, Bush a Bucha, yes, there we go. Okay,

Marcia Smith 19:19
toy log, also known as toy

Bob Smith 19:23
log, uh huh. What do you mean? Toy log, a toy Uh huh? Log,

Marcia Smith 19:27
easy, squeezy Bob. Toy log, Oh, for God’s sake, I’m sorry,

Bob Smith 19:33
Lincoln. Lincoln Logs, okay, there

Marcia Smith 19:35
we go. I knew you’d dig down into the cobweb. That’s

Bob Smith 19:38
where it was. It was in the cobwebs of my mind, okay? Lincoln Logs, yes. Abraham Lincoln gotcha Okay,

Marcia Smith 19:44
right? AKA vacuum Hoover. That’s it okay. Ranger or Mustang, Ranger or Mustang. A Ford, that’s it okay. You didn’t even know you had it there. I. Yeah, that’s good. Make less empty, full.

Bob Smith 20:04
Fill poor. Oh, this one is not easy. Yes, it is. Make less empty. So it’s you’re filling it up to a certain level.

Marcia Smith 20:13
You got the right first word. What?

Bob Smith 20:15
Phil Fillmore, okay, Fillmore, that’s right.

Marcia Smith 20:19
There we go. Less empty.

Bob Smith 20:21
I mean, Fillmore, President, Fillmore, of course, all right.

Marcia Smith 20:25
And lastly, under the category of presidents, browntown,

Bob Smith 20:31
browntown, yes, brown town, Cleveland, because the Cleveland Browns,

Marcia Smith 20:40
you got them. All right. You can continue with your title. Thank you, Master of presidential trivia. Well, in

Bob Smith 20:47
this show anyway, yeah, okay, okay, that was very fun. Thanks so much Mark. I always like that game, and that actually is a card game, oh yeah,

Marcia Smith 20:55
aka, also known as so it’s made by endless games, a real, real company. All right. All

Bob Smith 21:01
right. Thank you very much. Time to move on. Yes, it is okay. There were 38 years in our nation’s history in the United States that something unique was taking place with regard to the White House. 38 years. What was it?

Marcia Smith 21:15
Well, that’s too that’s too ambiguous. Can you be a little more specific? 38

Bob Smith 21:19
years? Yeah, a president had no what, not underwear, Marsh, not wife, not office. What I don’t know. 38 years in US history, there was no vice president. Oh, that’s because, until 1967 and the 25th amendment, there was no provision for filling that office other than through an election. Okay? So if a president died and his VP took over, the office was vacant, okay, no vice president, yeah, a total of eight presidents have died in office, four by assassins. Their VPS took over, leaving the office unoccupied. Seven vice presidents also died, and then there were no vice presidents. In fact, six times in history, we’ve had no VP for three and a half years, almost 75% of a president’s term. So 38 years without a vice president, that’s almost 20% of the nation’s 250 year history. So thought that was pretty interesting. That

Marcia Smith 22:14
reminds me of designated survivor. I love that show with Kiefer Sutherland. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was about the whole capital gets blown up with everybody in it, and they always take one person out in the food chain of hierarchy.

Bob Smith 22:28
Oh, that’s of the line of succession to make sure somebody’s there, yeah. So he was way down in the line of succession, yeah, way down then he becomes president, yeah.

Marcia Smith 22:36
Okay. I was very good. I thought, Okay, Bob, did you know, every Indianapolis 500 winner chucks a bottle of milk after his victory. I

Bob Smith 22:46
read this recently. He did Yes, and then there was one guy from Brazil who didn’t, and he chugged orange juice. Oh, really, and the crowd booed him.

Marcia Smith 22:55
Oh, that’s funny. I didn’t know that. I can’t remember the reason for that. Well, that’s my question. Okay, why did they chug milk?

Bob Smith 23:01
Okay, answer that question, and you win. That’s right. It goes

Marcia Smith 23:05
back to 1936 when indie winner Louis Meyer was photographed chugging a bottle of his favorite beverage, buttermilk. After his win, an executive from what is now called the American Dairy Association saw this as a golden opportunity, an example for young kids to drink more healthy drink milk. So from that moment on, a bottle of milk was provided at every race to every Indy 500 winner to chug instead of a beer or champagne. Yeah. And today, drivers tell race organizers in advance of the race, what their favorite milk preference is. It’s an ingrained tradition, so that, if they win, they can get the milk of their choice, chocolate milk, buttermilk, 2%

Bob Smith 23:52
soy milk. This seems like a strange thing. It’s funny.

Marcia Smith 23:55
It just gets to be, what did they call that? You know, you just it’s a tradition. Tradition, yeah,

Bob Smith 23:59
it’s like an unthinking tradition, yeah, okay. Marcia, what are the most frequently climbed mountains in the world? Okay, one is in Asia, and the second is in the United States. The most frequently climbed mountains in the world, we think of Mount Everest, you’d think, well, that’s got to be it, right? Yeah, it’s not okay. This one is near a major population center in Asia.

Marcia Smith 24:20
I don’t know. I don’t know. According

Bob Smith 24:22
to britannica.com the most climbed Mountain is not Mount Everest, it’s Mount Fuji and Japan. Oh, okay, more people climb that per year than any other mountain. How many people you think go up that mountain every year? Give me a guess. 1200 1200 No, okay, 300,000

Marcia Smith 24:40
my god, are you kidding? That’s right, Jesus, 12 traffic lights up there. It’s 12,388

Bob Smith 24:47
feet tall. So it’s pretty tall, but it is the world’s most frequently climbed Mountain, 300,000 climbers per year, and it’s located near Tokyo, which has 37 million people. So. Okay, the second and third most climbed mountains in the world are in the United States, and you’ve heard of one of them. One of them is Mount Hood. Oh,

Marcia Smith 25:08
we did that. We drove up.

Bob Smith 25:10
We drove up, and it stopped at the lodge midway there. I could have a glass of wine. That’s right, that’s not climbing Mount Hood Marsh. It is to me. Okay, all right. We do have a picture of that glass of wine with the snow behind it. That’s true, that was our accomplishment there. Very brave. But Mount Hood is 11,239 feet tall. It attracts over 10,000 climbers annually. But the top mountain in the United States you’ve never heard of is Mount monadic. It is in New Hampshire. It’s a few hours drive from Boston, and an estimated 125,000 climbers climb that every year. But that’s because it’s only 3148

Marcia Smith 25:47
feet tall. How many climb it? 125,000

Bob Smith 25:50
Okay, so that’s the second most climbed mountain in the world. So wait a minute, how many people do climb Mount? Everest, then annually? But where does it rank? Tell me it’s not even in the top 10, really? Yeah, only 700 to 1000 climbers attempt it annually, and they only have a success rate of 60 to 70% that finish

Marcia Smith 26:09
it, run out of oxygen, run out of

Bob Smith 26:12
all kinds of things, money, lives, yeah.

Marcia Smith 26:16
All right, I got quotes now, okay, what are the quotes? Betty Williams, when all else fails, take a vacation. Okay? And Susan Heller, when preparing to travel, lay out all your clothes and all your money, then take half the clothes and twice the money.

Bob Smith 26:34
That’s always a good rule. It’s a great rule, because they’re always going to spend more than you think. It’s gonna take way too many clothes. This is, you know, and the only way this has happened over the past, what, 8090, years, is credit cards. Because before people had to have those travelers checks and everything, yeah, so you probably did plan your expenditures and adhere to them a lot better, yeah. But now, because you got a credit card, Bob, pay for it later. Yeah? Not, not like the old days, you’re

Marcia Smith 26:59
right. I didn’t even think about that, but, yeah, everybody would go to the machine and get some cash, that’s right, and we have to take

Bob Smith 27:06
a bagged lunch, or something like that. Or Mom would get a picnic basket with food that would last the first day. You know, that kind of a thing.

Marcia Smith 27:12
Where did you go with a picnic basket from your mom? We

Bob Smith 27:16
went to picnics. Where did you go? All right, this

Marcia Smith 27:19
is, that’s your vacation? No, we went

Bob Smith 27:21
on big road trips. Marcia went to 42 states in the car. That’s

Marcia Smith 27:25
nice. We didn’t get picnic baskets on our trips.

Bob Smith 27:30
Okay, all right. Well, that’s plenty for today. Thanks so much for listening. We hope you join us next time when we return with more fascinating facts and tantalizing trivia,

Marcia Smith 27:40
tantalizing. I’m Bob Smith. I’m Marcia Smith, you’ve been listening to

Bob Smith 27:43
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